Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Testekill

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I think next year we're probably going to lose one player that we'd rather keep. Just a lot of moving cogs with contracts and there'd be multiple teams ready to swoop, if Power can keep everyone we want then he's a miracle maker.

He looks 12... but that is probably a photo of his 21st.
I was going to actually say that he could be anything from 11 to 17 there.
 

Sentinel

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I'd always assumed he was a Dogs fan from the attached photo, but it seems you're right according to his pocket profile.

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That's actually a photo from the day he was drafted as an 18 year old in 2014. Although easily mistaken for a grade 6 graduation photo, if not for the Bulldogs stuff.

I think this one was taken a day before the draft:
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BallaratBulldog

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In any case, I wouldn’t read into who people support all that often. At some point you need to look after yourself even if that means leaving or whatever.
 

Mofra

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I see Pat Lipinski has been given guernsey No 1 at Collingwood. A sign of high expectations?
Lippi's endurance is pretty good and he'll be playing on a big ground.
I don't begrudge him at all from moving on. I still wish we kept Roughy though
 

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LittleG

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Darcy Moore is a FA this year....... we were keen last time.

IMO a league wide top 10 player. IF we can get him (requires $1M a year?), we will lose someone we would prefer to keep due to salary cap problems. I would still go for it anyway. Moore can intercept, run and deliver 55m downfield. He is two players in 1.
 

Dannnnnnnnnn

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I think it's worth acknowledging that having big contracts ending doesn't necessarily equate to more cap space. List management teams don't just manage finances for the upcoming season, they need to predict what's happening years in advance.

The end of JJ's contract will have been planned for ever since it was signed. Those plans probably initially included the expectation of a second big contract after this one, but that would have changed over the past couple of years. We would have expected to have at least $100-200k extra space for quite some time now - so it's possible that it has already been used up by taking Treloar, or re-signing Bont, or bringing in Martin, or re-signing anyone else. On top of that, most contracts aren't flat, so there's no way to know how many are on peaks or valleys on any given year.

Predicting cap space is, as always, a fool's errand as there just isn't enough information available. The only guarantee is that other clubs will offer some of our players more than we are able to given the status of our list compared to others, no matter how good our list management team are, so it comes down to how happy players are here. From there it's guesswork.
 

Mr. Walker

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My memory is that we tried Roughy several times as a kpd and he looked slower than ...( whatever it is that is really really slow). Good luck to Pies for fixing that and good luck to Roughy for extending his career so well - just wish it was with us.
 

Hoges64

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Did people not see Roughy play this year ?
Most games I saw he was horrible.

To be fair he had absolutely no help with Howe out for most, and Moore out for the last 9(?) weeks.

Playing alsong side Jack Madgen is not gonna make anyone look good. Especially with the amount of ball being walked out of or through Collingwoods midfield like it was.
 

Golden_6

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To be fair he had absolutely no help with Howe out for most, and Moore out for the last 9(?) weeks.

Playing alsong side Jack Madgen is not gonna make anyone look good. Especially with the amount of ball being walked out of or through Collingwoods midfield like it was.
I guarantee you that if Roughy were on our list last year as a KPD, Bevo would’ve still preferred Cordy or Gardner.
 

Lindsay_Gilbee

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Imo Moore is the pies best player. Don’t see anyway they don’t offer him a very very good contract.
 

Norm De Guerre

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My memory is that we tried Roughy several times as a kpd and he looked slower than ...( whatever it is that is really really slow). Good luck to Pies for fixing that and good luck to Roughy for extending his career so well - just wish it was with us.
I dont think the Pies really fixed anything other than perhaps getting his body right. What Roughy has now is the games best CHB in front of him.

A luxury he never had when played in defence for the dogs.
 

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