Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Northernsoul74]

It feel like they only get named publicly only when they get publicly busted.

There will be a lot more on 2 strikes than people realise. Our club won’t be immune to it either.

 

[Mojorisin]

Perusing the Saints board he played against us in that elimination final they won, and was very good. Was a rising star nominee in his first year. Saints fans are not too thrilled, their drafting is terrible.

Aparently they're getting a second rounder or Lobb for him.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Without injuries based on his early games and under 18s
I would say he's a B Grader ready to become a A Grader

He's also just 23. Just trying to think of the last player we brought over around that age. Been a while hasn't it?

 

[Golden_6]

He's also just 23. Just trying to think of the last player we brought over around that age. Been a while hasn't it?

Biggs (23) & Crozier (23) are probably the only two in the last decade that fit that profile.

It's a good bracket to target at times. You potentially get a player who can contribute right away but still young enough to be around for 7-8 years.

 

[Sentinel]

Without injuries based on his early games and under 18s
I would say he's a B Grader ready to become a A Grader

It's a big IF as to whether he can get back to his earlier trajectory. Has a very high ceiling but I think we'll get him for a 3rd round pick for a reason - well worth the punt though.

 

[doggies ftw]

Biggs (23) & Crozier (23) are probably the only two in the last decade that fit that profile.

It's a good bracket to target at times. You potentially get a player who can contribute right away but still young enough to be around for 7-8 years.

Yeah agreed, plus it’s around the age where players can take a big step and sometimes it’s not exactly evident before that, it’s the sweet spot for maturing physically/mentally and being up for the rigours of consistent AFL footy. So you really can get some bargains if your talent identification is good

 

[VitalDread]

My overall hopes next year based on the development of players

Is that Buss and Darcy pushing Keath and Lobb out of the side

With a full pre-season under their belts, i hope by round 12 they are a lock in

 

[Foxman98]

My overall hopes next year based on the development of players

Is that Buss and Darcy pushing Keath and Lobb out of the side

With a full pre-season under their belts, i hope by round 12 they are a lock in

Keath shouldn't be in the side to begin with Coffield replaces him and go with JOD and Jones

 

[Joffaboy]

Aparently they're getting a second rounder or Lobb for him.

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

 

[Bald]

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

Posts like this never require an apology for intrusion. Thanks for the info mate and all the best with this fun time of the year.

 

[VitalDread]

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

 

[Libbaaaa]

To which they reply - you mean 13 and 22...

True, still more than enough considering they need to it match bids not pick up actually talent.

 

[Mojorisin]

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

We all have supporters that expect overs, I did see alot saying a third rounder which is fair.
They aren't as fun to talk about though.

 

[doggies ftw]

The media are so ****ing stupid, you’d think we’re the first club to have a star player on a big contract. It’s going to blow our cap out we’re going to lose English & Marra. But Hipwood & Blakey on 8 year contracts no stress, Brennan flipping Cox nah no stress. Naughty, genuine star forward at 23yo - what a disaster for the club

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

Thanks for sharing.

Not sure bout that user name though

 

[TedDougChris]

They love to win trade week even if their additions to the team do nothing to actually improve the balance of the team or address any structural problems.

Long may it continue !!

 

[Joffaboy]

Thanks for sharing.

Not sure bout that user name though

Had it before that Collingwood pedo besmirched it.

Many blokes my age with my name got that nic back in the day.

 

[Mojorisin]

The media are so ******* stupid, you’d think we’re the first club to have a star player on a big contract. It’s going to blow our cap out we’re going to lose English & Marra. But Hipwood & Blakey on 8 year contracts no stress, Brennan *ing Cox nah no stress. Naughty, genuine star forward at 23yo - what a disaster for the club

Cornes is hilarious. Said how bad our 8 year deal (essentially 9 years) was and in the same breath said how good Sydney were for offering 10 and that now it'll make Jamarra easier to pry out.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Thanks for sharing.

Not sure bout that user name though

Those of "a certain age" may remember Joffa Boy as a character on the Tarax Show, with Happy Hammond, back in the early days of television on Ch 9.

Great fun for kids in those days


The exact opposite of the Joffa of modern times

 

[VitalDread]

As a depressed Bulls supporter

I love the immaturity of AFL when it comes to long-term deals

it's financially smarter for clubs to sign players to long-term deals since they won't have to pay overs in 3 years time.

Just need to restructure their current deal if x player hits current goals such as AA or Coleman

Overall clubs would save a lot of money signing players to bigger deals

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Sorry to intrude, but most on our board expect maybe a very late second or a third. Nothing better.

Coffield hasn't played for two years, coming off first an acl and then multiple hammy problems, we wont get much in a trade.

For context, I go to Saints training fairly regularly. Coffield has filled out, has a very nice V shape footballers body, and looked good at training in match sim. He was an intercept marker before injured but can't recall him doing so that much at training, maybe it was the drills they were doing, and after two years may have been rusty.

He needs a change, has wanted to get the Dogs for a while by all accounts, and if he stays fit (I think he will) and can find his form, he will be a real money ball pick for you.

Good luck.

Great post - thanks Joff!

Coffield is perhaps a good example of an immature body trying to do too much in a high pressure system. A bit like 2 year old racehorses with shin soreness - and worse - requiring long periods in the paddock to recover and mature.

Hopefully his body will be much better for the layoff.

 

[Mojorisin]

As a depressed Bulls supporter

I love the immaturity of AFL when it comes to long-term deals

it's financially smarter for clubs to sign players to long-term deals since they won't have to pay overs in 3 years time.

Just need to restructure their current deal if x player hits current goals such as AA or Coleman

Overall clubs would save a lot of money signing players to bigger deals

Also helps to shuffle money around to fit in other deals.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

True, still more than enough considering they need to it match bids not pick up actually talent.

If only it was that easy. Yes enough to get the points they need, but probably not enough to beat other offers they will get.

 

[W W Biscuit]

Just wondering whether previous long term deals for players like Oliver and McKay attracted the type of negative press that Astro’s signing has attracted. Or was there back-slapping all round, and hearty congratulations that a gun player should be so committed to their own club?

This just reinforces my instinct to ignore the current iteration of the football media in good times and in bad. The bandwagon jumping when we won the 2016 flag actually made my stomach churn. The parasites taking vicarious pleasure in our successes are the same parasites who kick the crap out of us in the media most other times. When (not if) we win another flag with this team, the collective media can get stuffed.

 

[Foxman98]

Just wondering whether previous long term deals for players like Oliver and McKay attracted the type of negative press that Astro’s signing has attracted. Or was there back-slapping all round, and hearty congratulations that a gun player should be so committed to their own club?

This just reinforces my instinct to ignore the current iteration of the football media in good times and in bad. The bandwagon jumping when we won the 2016 flag actually made my stomach churn. The parasites taking vicarious pleasure in our successes are the same parasites who kick the crap out of us in the media most other times. When (not if) we win another flag with this team, the collective media can get stuffed.

McKay has only kicked over 30 goals twice in his 8 year career too,

Lucky for him 2020 made him look much better than he is