Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[go the dogs]

We could have andrews and weitering. Wouldn't make a difference with the structure we play. We defend way to high has happened for years and nothing will change.

 

[adogsfan5]

Defensive names floated on the market:

CJ
Silvangi
Starcevich
Butts

Just get all of them and start again with Dale and Williams back there

And Budarick

 

[adammonerz]

Delist or trade Busslinger, cant run, too slow, caught out of position multiple times and has been so much of a liability he has been subbed two weeks in a row

 

[DiamondDogs8]

We could have andrews and weitering. Wouldn't make a difference with the structure we play. We defend way to high has happened for years and nothing will change.

Correct

I wish someone at the club would grow a pair and tell Bevo to fix up

 

[iambrilliant]

We could have andrews and weitering. Wouldn't make a difference with the structure we play. We defend way too high has happened for years and nothing will change.

It’s definitely time to move on from the high press . Probably was about 4 years ago tbh

 

[go the dogs]

It’s definitely time to move on from the high press . Probably was about 4 years ago tbh

Ever since that st kilda final. They scored out the back for fun and still happens all these years later

 

[Bald Headed Flog]

Delist or trade Busslinger, cant run, too slow, caught out of position multiple times and has been so much of a liability he has been subbed two weeks in a row

His failure to stop that ball at the end of the 1st gave me Lewis Young vibes. Just a complete lack of awareness and football IQ

 

[Doggies7]

We’ll have him! Want Liam Ryan?!?

Maybe Matt Flynn?


Jokes aside. Unlucky today lads. For obvious reasons I was team dogs today.

Garcia for Liam Ryan actually makes a bit of sense for both clubs...

 

[TheScriptorWL]

It’s definitely time to move on from the high press . Probably was about 4 years ago tbh

Abandoning the high press without the right cogs in the machine would be a mistake. Our offense relies way too much on that overwhelming surge.

This would slip us down to the 11-13 Range. To avoid this the club must ruthlessly pursue a Suitable HB (Potentially Crofty can take one for the team if pickings are slim) and an ELITE FB on the rise or established. (Weitering, Frost)

 

[iambrilliant]

Abandoning the high press without the right cogs in the machine would be a mistake. Our offense relies way too much on that overwhelming surge.

This would slip us down to the 11-13 Range. To avoid this the club must ruthlessly pursue a Suitable HB (Potentially Crofty can take one for the team if pickings are slim) and an ELITE FB on the rise or established. (Weitering, Frost)

It’s time to try something new mate it hasn’t worked for us the last 4 years why keep beating a dead horse ?

 

[TheScriptorWL]

It’s time to try something new mate it hasn’t worked for us the last 4 years why keep beating a dead horse ?

No one is a bigger advocate for abandoning the High press than me. I say it basically every result that it cost us.

However, we don't exactly have all the parts to do it properly. That's why us landing some actual sizeable defensive units this off-season is essential.

Busslinger is either a Bust or is a slow learner at AFL level and Lobb doesn't have the effective pace to catch up to his man when caught out. Which frequently happens when he mindlessly places himself 4 metres back from his opponent.

If we don't have the numbers to flood the fifty, we don't score enough to make up for our horrendously bad backline. This is a Drafting/Recruiting error and it's forced us into this.

 

[Doggies7]

Zac Bailey

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Zac Bailey

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

is another one that we need to have a big chunk of $ on the table for at the end of next season when he is free agent (I believe).

Brisbane keep bringing in players on decent money and are doing it again with Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

this year. With all of their young guns needing big pay rises soon, surely it forces a Zac Bailey

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Zac Bailey

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

or another high profile player out. Kudos to Brisbane though, they have great retention and are up there with Geelong and luring players up there to play for them.

 

[Golden_6]

Delist or trade Busslinger, cant run, too slow, caught out of position multiple times and has been so much of a liability he has been subbed two weeks in a row

I genuinely do not see how he makes it.

Slow with a lack of physicality is just a horrible combination for a KPD. The only hope would be an intercepting 3rd tall role.

 

[Doggies7]

Can we beg Richmond to trade us Vlaustin? Like sob and grovel and beg? I'm willing to get VERY pathetic in their eyes so they cave.

 

[bresker]

We need to train Croft as a back. He realds the ball very well & he's a footballer .


Nautgton, Darcy and West were doing fine before he came aling Poulter is nearly there as an extra option.
Weightman may return .
Arty showed more in 10 minutes than 6 games of McNeil.

We dont need three big men forward, it's gilding the lily.

 

[adammonerz]

I genuinely do not see how he makes it.

Slow with a lack of physicality is just a horrible combination for a KPD. The only hope would be an intercepting 3rd tall role.

His dire to watch way too slow to play as the KPD looks like he is running in concrete

 

[BrisDog]

How long is Buss on the books for?

 

[VitalDread]

Surely Arty Jones gets a two year extension

Could be that X factor pressure forward we lack now that the sub rule is gone

 

[St 07]

Can't blame JOD and Bus if you're not also blaming the extremely experienced Lobb. It's our mismanagement. Bus could have about 10 more games to his name but we never picked him. They're both unbelievably young too for that level of responsibility. This is on us and the unfortunate loss of Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

Age

34

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

 

[Shacf501]

McNeil isn’t a Power problem it’s a weak point in Bevo that no one seems willing to address. If you are on the good side Bevo just keeps playing you. Bad side and you won’t get back. It’s like trying to get rid of Bubba. Bevo had an absolute conniption but it had to be done. Can we revisit whether we keep grant or Bevo in the power play stakes please? I’d like a do-over……

this is my argument with VDM... he kept breaking down during games, wasn't getting the ball, turns it over but would be picked the next week... very confusing from the sidelines for us supporters

 

[hutchy31]

I know we don’t like how Dunkley and Smith left, particularly the latter, and that we got hosed by their new clubs in the trades. But it’s difficult to argue against their decisions at this stage.

It would concern me massively if I were in the footy department at WO. Are we going to be able to keep our young stars if we keep dishing up the same each season? How can we make this club an attractive destination for a good KPD given how little value we seem to place on defense?

 

[adogsfan5]

It’s definitely time to move on from the high press . Probably was about 4 years ago tbh

We stopped doing it as much against GWS few weeks go and well.. look at the result.

 

[Doggy]

We stopped doing it as much against GWS few weeks go and well.. look at the result.

Would have beaten Fremantle comfortably if we didn't do it. It's ridiculous Beveridge keeps up this garbage.

Made good strides when we had so many injuries early in the year and when we got players back went to back to the same bullshit.

Oh well...

I'm moving to my new house tomorrow and have a shit load to do ao my focus is elsewhere anyway.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Jay Clark reckons we will rip up and pay out JUH’S contract if their is no trade interest

 

[dergert]

Jay Clark reckons we will rip up and pay out JUH’S contract if their is no trade interest

Good.