Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Marsy]

Windhager going to the Dees

But doesn’t he know about St Kilda’s 5%?

 

[HK_Bulldog]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Windhager going to the Dees

But did Wilkie get a bonus?

 

[Bald]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

As someone who’s obviously a very big fan of Sanders. I’d do it.

 

[Foxman98]

Budarick still a fair chance to leave another Uwland academy boy going pick 1

 

[Mofra]

Budarick still a fair chance to leave another Uwland academy boy going pick 1

Annable & Uwland both top 5 potentially. GCS in a really good spot this year

 

[Dogs Rule]

Annable & Uwland both top 5 potentially. GCS in a really good spot this year

Yet another reason to abandon academies. All of them. They're a joke and yes, we have benefited greatly from FS, but that'll be tightened shortly all while the academies just keep rolling on.

Surely it's time for the leg up for the northern states to end, but this is the Dillon led AFL so they'll do stuff all.

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

Like I said last week, Jackson Voss from Frankston is a no-brainer for a mature aged player to chase.

What are missing here. Is IMHO clearly the best player in the VFL. Hard and tough - General across HBF but everyone passed on him on the MSD?

 

[dogwatch]

Yet another reason to abandon academies. All of them. They're a joke and yes, we have benefited greatly from FS, but that'll be tightened shortly all while the academies just keep rolling on.

Surely it's time for the leg up for the northern states to end, but this is the Dillon led AFL so they'll do stuff all.

Not until the expansion clubs have won a couple of flags each.

The AFL and the networks have invested heavily in GCS annd GWS and will want to see some returns, some dominance.

It’s why we should be hoping for a Suns flag. The sooner they dominate the AFL comp the sooner there’s a chance the AFL will stop giving them leg ups.

It’s a business first. A sport only incidentally. The merchants and money changers have taken over the temple.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

I’d do it. Sanders won’t change the dial enough to put us in real contention in the next 2 - 3 years but Wilkie could be our missing piece. It’s overpaying but it might convince St Kilda to let him out. It’s a real chips in move and only works if the Saints have more monster money to pay Sanders as he’ll just wait for Tassie to come calling otherwise.

 

[Struggle]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

Saints might listen if we added in our first. Might

 

[Frewy]

What are missing here. Is IMHO clearly the best player in the VFL. Hard and tough - General across HBF but everyone passed on him on the MSD?

Not much, looks like the Saints are heavily into him. Great kick, strong body, hard-nosed, I would be flabbergasted if he is not on an AFL list in 2026. If no one has bid on him previously, does that make him eligible for the Saints to still take him under Father and Son?

 

[CarnTheScray]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

Would give them Sanders and sadly, Treloar.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Bobby Hill - what’s going on with him.

Is it a “not going to play AFL again” thing or “not going to play for Collingwood again” thing.

Or worst case: “will go to another club then retire within a season” thing.

 

[stefoid]

Surely Marra would be make a better Key back than Young or Silvagni or Butts or others that are not gettable. After watching Smith play this year, I’ll be so disillusioned if Marra goes to another club and does well. Means we are poor in managing complex characters and needs to be looked at. Don’t know if that’s Bevo or Edge or Bains but it needs to be better.

Take this with a grain of salt, but I reckon that for most of these situations, the problematic player is on the outer with the playing group because.. richard cranium. And thats why they leave -> to go somewhere else, and a chance to pull their head in. It would be hard to stay and play with a team where everybody thought you were a FW.

Probably not Dunkley, but I can easily see this for Stringer, Smith and Marra, each in their own way.

 

[Pencil case]

Would anyone consider Sanders for Wilkie? Saints would certainly listen to that conversation. I probably wouldn’t do it but if they added some extras, I’d keep talking.

With Libba and Treloar nearing the end of their careers, absolutely not.

 

[CarnTheScray]

With Libba and Treloar nearing the end of their careers, absolutely not.

Well Treloar didn’t play almost all year and Sanders wasn’t even picked for the final game.

There is also no indication Sanders is going to be “the next Libba” like some people are hoping.

The most you could hope for is a Neale-type player, but I think it’s apparent he isn’t going to be like that.

 

[WB_]

Well Treloar didn’t play almost all year and Sanders wasn’t even picked for the final game.

There is also no indication Sanders is going to be “the next Libba” like some people are hoping.

The most you could hope for is a Neale-type player, but I think it’s apparent he isn’t going to be like that.

Would still have Bont, Richards, Libba, Freijah, Kennedy, perhaps small mid minutes for West/Weightman. And then perhaps a play for Butters leading into 2027.

 

[LondonBulldog]

It's the thing that does my head in when the subject turns to our defensive issues in the media and at times in here.Its as if we have been wilfully negligent when it comes to looking for KPD solutions.

It also ignores the fact that no matter how successful we are or how much we've improved our training facilities to a point where they are amongst the best in the competition. We continue to battle pre-conceived biases that are in built with people as to our clubs position in the games hierarchy. Its why Hawthorn, Collingwood and Geelongs in the Melbournes club orbit continue to hoover up the games elite FA talent when the become available.

Its why St.Kilda have been forced to go all in chasing FA talent and risk going into the next season with an explosive cigar in one hand and with a two-seven offsuit hand in the other.

We are our own worst enemy. You think new recruits want to play in Ballarat??? Yet people on here bang on about how good it is. They want big games, big exposure. Need to be an attractive club and that means a few home games at the MCG.

 

[Cudi]

Erasmus looks pretty good in the final last night, still don’t see him leaving Freo though.

 

[Mofra]

Well Treloar didn’t play almost all year and Sanders wasn’t even picked for the final game.

There is also no indication Sanders is going to be “the next Libba” like some people are hoping.

The most you could hope for is a Neale-type player, but I think it’s apparent he isn’t going to be like that.

Sanders is an inside mid who isn't great in other positions (yet).
I'm nowhere near writing him off.

I think we'd do better to grab Butts or Young, keep our players and our first round pick, rather than overpay for Wilkie. He's under contract and on the sight chance he does agree to leave the Saints they would ask for the world.

 

[Mofra]

Erasmus looks pretty good in the final last night, still don’t see him leaving Freo though.

Given we chased Jordan and Peatling we do really seem to want one more mature versatile mid.

I guess other names will pop up as teams fall out of the finals and their season finishes.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

We have been stung twice by Dunkley and Smith wanting out at end contract, Both, we knew where more than likely to request a trade at the end. The difference in value is immense trading in contract to out of contract, just wondering what our list would look like now if we traded a year earlier.

For example, I know we was very interested in Murphy Reid and we would have had our own pick available more than likely if we had done the Smith deal a year earlier.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Sanders is an inside mid who isn't great in other positions (yet).
I'm nowhere near writing him off.

I think we'd do better to grab Butts or Young, keep our players and our first round pick, rather than overpay for Wilkie. He's under contract and on the sight chance he does agree to leave the Saints they would ask for the world.

If I see you grabbing Butts....

 

[dogsuperfan]

We have been stung twice by Dunkley and Smith wanting out at end contract, Both, we knew where more than likely to request a trade at the end. The difference in value is immense trading in contract to out of contract, just wondering what our list would look like now if we traded a year earlier.

For example, I know we was very interested in Murphy Reid and we would have had our own pick available more than likely if we had done the Smith deal a year earlier.

Keeping Dunkleybto his contract was a good move because if did the trade with essondon all the picks we got would’ve just been used up for Jammara. By keeping him we got a grand final appearance and a best and fairest player.
Coming to Smith, if it’s true Hawks offered pick 5 for him I’m sure we would’ve done it but I’m pretty sure u need player consent for it to happen. Also the reason we didn’t have our own pick last year wasn’t because of smith it was because we traded out the future first to get pick 6 which ended up being sanders.