Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[threenewpadlocks]

TBH if Saints wanted to be considered a serious football team they can protect the interests of AFL clubs as a whole by not giving into player power, insisting Wilkie stick to his contract that he signed himself (while I obviously want Wilkie to help our team I am less sympathetic to the views that he should be angry because his teammates are getting paid more, he signed what he thought was a fair contract and he doesn't have a right to control what the Saints does with the rest of its salary cap money).

They can then use Wilkie and their recruits to win games next year.

Issue is they will probably realise that they are in a bit of a salary cap pickle - especially if Wilkie does ask for more money when he comes out of contract - and there are draft benefits too, so they'll probably trade him.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I cant see us trading a single player to the Saints that they would want and we would be open to giving. Some of the names mentioned are Richards (LOL) or Sanders + Freijah. I get it that they want something of value but I cant see us giving up a decent player when our goal is to top up and win a flag. Its a unique position as the saints are clearly trying to have a crack at finals next year by "topping up" rather than a rebuild of selling off a good player for picks. Just cant see how this trade gets done

the whispers are Sanders.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Any chance of a community note saying much the same about VDM or McNeil? Player’s who have much worse directed at them and more often than Gardner has ever had.

Often coming from the same people that would complain in 2022-23 how we lacked legspeed in our team, yet want it both ways.

 

[mattwa]

the whispers are Sanders.

Id do that trade. Assuming we land butters to replace Sanders

 

[bobs head soup]

I cant see us trading a single player to the Saints that they would want and we would be open to giving. Some of the names mentioned are Richards (LOL) or Sanders + Freijah. I get it that they want something of value but I cant see us giving up a decent player when our goal is to top up and win a flag. Its a unique position as the saints are clearly trying to have a crack at finals next year by "topping up" rather than a rebuild of selling off a good player for picks. Just cant see how this trade gets done

Doesn't necessarily have to be one of our players. Power is pretty adept at piecing together 3 and 4 club packages.

 

[Redders98]

Hearing Wilkie has rejected the Bulldogs offer.

 

[Mofra]

Doesn't necessarily have to be one of our players. Power is pretty adept at piecing together 3 and 4 club packages.

Sam Flanders to the Saints certainly opens up a trade opportunity.

 

[stevieg1969]

Hearing Wilkie has rejected the Bulldogs offer.

But has Mrs Wilkie?

 

[MaxiBont]

 

[Foxman98]

They're forcing his hand here

 

[JohnnySteel]

Probably means we’ll go even harder for Butters this season.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Wow. Ballsy call to leave that much on the table and continue playing for a s*** side. Anyway on we go.

 

[Golden_6]

You would want to hope we are going after Butts strongly now if so.

We cannot enter the season with just Lobb & JOD as KPD with Buss & Gardner behind them (or with them) and expect to be any chance of contending.

 

[Doggies7]

Boy oh boy do we need Butts. Hopefully we are already pretty far down the track with him and can get him onboard...

 

[_Cerberus_]

You would want to hope we are going after Butts strongly now if so.

We cannot enter the season with just Lobb & JOD as KPD with Buss & Gardner behind them (or with them) and expect to be any chance of contending.

Butts is just as decent one on one, younger and will cost a little less. Not fussed if we missed on Wilkie and gained him.

 

[RWnBluey]

Wow. Ballsy call to leave that much on the table and continue playing for a s*** side. Anyway on we go.

Doesn’t necessarily mean that Wilkie didn’t want to make the move. It could be that we were unwilling to facilitate a trade to satisfy the saints so no point in requesting one.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Not fussed if we miss Wilkie. If he makes the choice to stay, than all respect to him for that. Saints are not in the Premiership window, and won't win one before he retires. Not often players turn down life changing cash offers, so good to see loyalty still exists in footy. Saints are again over paying for B grade and injury prone players. It bit them on the ass last time, and will again this time. Their only saving grace is they have finally looked to be drafting better.

 

[MaxiBont]

Glad the club was bold enough to make a bid of the nature which Wilkie obviously considered.

Shows we are happy to be aggressive this trade period.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Glad the club was bold enough to make a bid of the nature which Wilkie obviously considered.

Shows we are happy to be aggressive this trade period.

But Saints fans would say how dare we go after a contracted player, we only did that because we were salty about missing out on Silvagni

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

If true, it's another year, another failed target. At some point you'd hope we're doing a comprehensive review of our processes, from player ID to communication to offers (both contractual and trade). We can't keep missing our top targets every year. It's particularly striking when you consider how big of a player movement period this is shaping up to be for both contracted and uncontracted players.

 

[RWnBluey]

Oh well, at least we kept the Saints honest

 

[BigFloppa]

Has anyone got Steven May

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Steven May

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

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14.7

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10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

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1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

's number?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Oh well, at least we kept the Saints honest

Looks like we made Wilkie think long and hard about our offer

 

[Sentinel]

Oh well. Nothing lost, nothing gained.

 

[Morris Major]

If true, it's another year, another failed target. At some point you'd hope we're doing a comprehensive review of our processes, from player ID to communication to offers (both contractual and trade). We can't keep missing our top targets every year. It's particularly striking when you consider how big of a player movement period this is shaping up to be for both contracted and uncontracted players.

Assuming you meant Barrass, well Hawthorn were always going to be a more attractive proposition than us.

As for Wilkie, it was the Saints that gave him a chance as a mature age rookie so I don't mind that he wanted to stay loyal. The fact we got this far probably meant our process worked reasonably well.