Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[HELMET!]

He is so raw it isn't funny. If he were to play AFL next year it means we have no one else fit to play.
Whilst I hope we draft him I wouldn't want to match with anything more then a pick in the 50s as that is where I'd take him. Romance aside if a bid comes before our pick 28 I pass.

Does the dogs dud brother rule still apply if they both play for us?

 

[MaxiBont]

I wonder if Sellwood could be used as a third KPD against smaller forward lines next year.

Obviously needs a big pre-season and to prove he can play at the level but seems to have the strength and fight to make it work.

Think it’ll be between him and Cleary for the 7th defender spot on the bench otherwise.

 

[Mojorisin]

He also have Darcy draft rage between 30-55 just have to wait and see when the bid comes.

The there is no need to move on pick 28.

 

[Bulldogs85]

The there is no need to move on pick 28.

Were did I say we need to move pick 28

 

[Mojorisin]

Were did I say we need to move pick 28

Twomey did in the quote
"The Dogs currently have only picks No.10 and 28, but could target a move up the board using the second-round pick given the bid for Darcy could come around the middle of the second round."

 

[JohnnySteel]

Twomey did in the quote
"The Dogs currently have only picks No.10 and 28, but could target a move up the board using the second-round pick given the bid for Darcy could come around the middle of the second round."

Would like us to use 28 to move up regardless.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Twomey did in the quote
"The Dogs currently have only picks No.10 and 28, but could target a move up the board using the second-round pick given the bid for Darcy could come around the middle of the second round."

don’t see a problem with the club moving up on the draft board if they have a target in mind

 

[Mojorisin]

Would like us to use 28 to move up regardless.

Maybe in a live trade like last year but going into the draft I like where our two picks are positioned.

 

[Mojorisin]

don’t see a problem with the club moving up on the draft board if they have a target in mind

Neither do I, however I do have an issue if it's to avoid a Darcy bid.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Will Darcy being picked in the second round would be a complete joke.

I've watched enough of him to say that he wouldn't be on the draft radar if his last name wasn't Darcy. He averaged 6 disposals and 1.2 marks per game in his Coates league games.

He's remarkably raw and wasn't up to scratch at that level. Given his footballing pedigree and that Sam developed late, I'm more than happy to take up but not at a second rounder.

The hype is coming from the school matches. A scouting mate of mine saw most of his APS matches and really rates him. His Coates league matches were underwhelming though, I agree.

 

[perro_loco]

Cleary showed some good signs late, definitely something to work with. Needs to get stronger.

I quite liked Cleary in the games he played this year. Hope he can further improve next year because as you say, he showed really good signs.

 

[Mojorisin]

The hype is coming from the school matches. A scouting mate of mine saw most of his APS matches and really rates him. His Coates league matches were underwhelming though, I agree.

Granted I only watched a couple games but he seemed to be able to play pretty loose in defence from what I saw. Was able to intercept strongly and provide some rebound from what I saw though.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Neither do I, however I do have an issue if it's to avoid a Darcy bid.

Don’t think Darcy will get bid on until later anyway remember the Talk about the one of the Camporeale kids leading up to the draft.

 

[Foxman98]

The hype is coming from the school matches. A scouting mate of mine saw most of his APS matches and really rates him. His Coates league matches were underwhelming though, I agree.

Was speaking with Luke last week and think we have tried to hide him a little

Still raw but not as bad as we think

 

[Mojorisin]

Don’t think Darcy will get bid on until later anyway remember the Talk about the one of the Camporeale kids leading up to the draft.

I think he will test really well at the Combine and that could tempt some but I agree.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Understand a 2nd rounder isn’t enough for Butts. Surely 2 2nd rounders temps them? Same price we paid for Lobb.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Was speaking with Luke last week and think we have tried to hide him a little

Still raw but not as bad as we think

What did Like have to say?

Definitely needs a few seasons in the gym before he could possibly play at AFL.

 

[Foxman98]

What did Like have to say?

Tracking nicely wanted to "focus" more on schooling and school footy

Edit: Hence why those who watched him play at school level are rating him higher then TAC Cup

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Funny how its the father/son kids right before when the most intense scouting is about to happen are suddently really, really interested in spending effort on their schoolwork and exams

 

[Doggies_13]

Reports are this draft is very poor and most of the talent are tied to clubs already.

If the cost of butts is a first rounder this year id be doing it. He is no superstar but you have to pay more for key position players. Also, the benefit isn’t going to be his game and performances alone. It’s going to be that he releases Lobb to be more aggressive like 2024 as that second tall.

Think back to I think it was 2009 when we were screaming out for a key forward and we refused to pay up for hall. Ended up getting him a year late and had players declining.

 

[Mojorisin]

Funny how its the father/son kids right before when the most intense scouting is about to happen are suddently really, really interested in spending effort on their schoolwork and exams

Will was always the least football oriented of the three. He wasn't even interested in pursuing it as a career for awhile there.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Looks like Budarick is a lock

Two big names meet with Suns, Hawk to wait, key detail in Devils' $5m fund

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

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Connor Budarick is expected to depart, with the Western Bulldogs looming

 

[Doggies_13]

Maybe Twomey is suggesting Darcy will be bid on in the second round as the first round is meant to be like 30 picks. So mid second round could be 45

 

[cecil]

Looks like Budarick is a lock

Two big names meet with Suns, Hawk to wait, key detail in Devils' $5m fund

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Connor Budarick is expected to depart, with the Western Bulldogs looming

Excellent news. Id argue our small-mid defender stocks are worse than our key back stocks.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Gee wiz. This is not good.

Reality often makes for uncomfortable reading.

”Backing in Buss and JOD” aka “we don’t want to pony up for who we need”.

Give Adelaide the first for Butts. Hawks and Collingwood would be ruthless, why can’t we?

God we are a soft club sometimes.

Offering a first round pick out of desperation for Jordan Butts is not the stuff of hard headed list management.

Its the stuff of idiocy and bigfooty.

Given Busslinger is considered the weak link in our defensive chain. And putting aside their age and stages of physical development.

Lets compare the pair and how their 2025 seasons went shall we.

Ive seen some overrating of players during my time on this board but the thirst for Butts is beyond ridiculous.