Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Testekill]

Cheap depth KPP at either end?

Derksen is just okay from what I've seen in the VFL but he might be someone that needs a new system.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

 

[Foxman98]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

Not much just an awful contract

 

[Bulldogs85]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

Might want to pay more then that if they want to trade Oliver

 

[VitalDread]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

Been two feet out of the club for like 4 years now

 

[Philthy1]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

Looks the industry in general is over the sort of stuff that Oliver, JUH etc have been doing.

Years ago it was probably tolerated / accepted a bit more.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Made sense from our end,

Our midfield for most of the year in the 2s was Scott Crofts Craig-Peters none of those 3 are currently on our list

We don’t need to use AFL list spots for our VFL team

At the very least he is behind Bont, Libba, Richards, Treloar, Kennedy and Freijah. We have Sanders, Harmes and Garcia getting fairly regular games who can fill the roles if we have heaps of injuries. Also West to pinch hit because I wouldn’t want to keep him out of the forward line too long. Plus Hynes who will probably be more suitable in a few years time

If he could play the half forward line role like Kennedy can then definitely worth enquiring about but don’t see the point of adding one dimensional players in the position of our highest strength

 

[X_box_X]

Will Ashcroft and Levi Ashcroft in a a package deal for Jordan Croft and Billy Crofts.

Who says no?

 

[Mofra]

I like Billy Crofts as a player. He had a knack for scoring from a forward stoppage during the year.
It's a neat trick for a mid. I wouldn't be upset if he ended up on our rookie list

 

[BLACAE]

In terms of a small forward, I'd be looking at the state leagues unless we go for Doveston. Look for another Mannagh. There are a few out there with more mature bodies that provide a great scoring threat.

There are always Gems out there, you just have to really look, and have a little luck.

 

[Sentinel]

Haha c’mon get a grip mate, Robertson is a Riley Garcia level player

You can’t bring in two first round picks or Adam Treloar every year

I know that, hence why I said "no matter the quality of the targets". I'm just saying this period is always a big tease that usually doesn't end with much.

 

[MaxiBont]

Surely Budarick chooses us over North…

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Melbourne is willing to pay 700k per year for the next 5 years of Oliver's contract. He must be a complete cancer. What's the gossip on him?

His issue is that he's a completely one dimensional player who is incapable of playing a role other than as an inside mid.

His contract that has another 5 seasons to run is an exemplar from clubs point of view why no player should be signed up to 8 years deals. But here they are with an albatross of their own making hanging around their necks. The only way to rid themselves of such a poor decision is to carry half of the weight of his contract going forward.

Its a colossal case of list mismanagement the likes of which we've never really seen before.'

Im not sure if its was by accident or design. But we've just dodged as big a bullet with the implosion of Jamarras career at the dogs. I don't think its an accident that both players seem to have similar off field issues. Ones that have derailed what should've been great careers. Th difference lays with Oliver having teh surety of a long lucrative contract to fall back on. Jamarra has no such safety net.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

 

[TheSportingEyes]

Surely Budarick chooses us over North…

Massive concern if he doesn't. Fits our need for a small defender and can always play forward if we need him to. I'll be very worried if we miss out on him.

 

[Golden_6]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

Couldn’t think of a thing I’d rather do less.

 

[X_box_X]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

Is Oliver a chance of getting back to AFL level? Realistically, give me your honest thoughts. It seems like way too big a risk for likely little reward.

Moneyball aside, the culture hit alone makes it detrimental.

I wonder if Petracca still leaves if the Dees delist Oliver.

What a shit situation for the Dees cause ideally that's the best thing they can do but man their salary cap takes a massive hit for the next four seasons with Clarry still on the books.

 

[Bald]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

At only $600k per season I think every club would be doing their due diligence. Though like Petracca, I'd suggest it's just not something we'd be wanting to do. Unless he can dramatically improve his disposal, it's hard to see clubs with decent midfield depth really chasing too hard for his services.

He'd be a handy pick up for Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast (though I suspect off-field this mightn't be a good fit).

 

[X_box_X]

Couldn’t think of a thing I’d rather do less.

He's an AFL player living in the mind and body of a suburban footballer on parole.

 

[Mofra]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

I'm a pretty hard no, personally. There's a reason that Melbourne want him gone.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

Having just been through the JUH saga I think it’s better to look elsewhere.

And I’ve hung too much crap on my Dees supporter mates about him and Petracca to handle us getting either one.

 

[weltschmerz]

Treloar's Collingwood money off the books now, do we do a similar moneyball move and grab Oliver?

God no.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Re: Petracca I find it hard to gauge his value, he definitely sees himself as a full time mid still but I think he'd absolutely kill it playing forward and pinch hitting in the middle.

 

[Mojorisin]

At only $600k per season I think every club would be doing their due diligence. Though like Petracca, I'd suggest it's just not something we'd be wanting to do. Unless he can dramatically improve his disposal, it's hard to see clubs with decent midfield depth really chasing too hard for his services.

He'd be a handy pick up for Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast (though I suspect off-field this mightn't be a good fit).

I don't want Oliver as much as the next person but I wonder if Melbourne would want to get the entirety of his contract offer the books. We are probably one of only a few clubs that could do it without it hurting our budget to bring in a topline player. If we could buy their future first which is likely a top 5 pick it'd go a long way to getting a deal done for Butters.

 

[wian]

Pity Oliver and Petracca Didn't shit themselves and implode on GF day 2021. I'd be a bit more happier..