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Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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If we think Jamarra's $800k salary for 1 more year is a bit of a noose around our neck, I present to you the Clayton Oliver contract at Melbourne. Arguably the worst contract in AFL history.

Also, called it: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...gs-only-part-4.1245999/page-532#post-75476121
Worst contract in AFL history??

I present to you Max King. Signed until 2032 on more than $1 million per season. Played 0 games since signing the contract and only played 12 games out of a potential 46 in the last 2 seasons.
 
Pity Oliver and Petracca Didn't shit themselves and implode on GF day 2021. I'd be a bit more happier..
100%.
My abiding memory of the last quarter and a half of that game was complete midfield domination one way by one team, unfortunately for us it was not us. The situation at Melbourne just four years later is staggering.
 

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100%.
My abiding memory of the last quarter and a half of that game was complete domination one way by one team, unfortunately for us it was not us. The situation at Melbourne just four years later is staggering.

Two teams with a heap of stars just entering their prime and looking set for a long rivalry taking over from Richmond. It’s crazy that four years later that neither team has won a single final and Melbourne aren’t looking like winning one soon as they decide to blow it up and start again
 
How has West not reached that level?

West kicked more goals then them all this year in less games and was the number 1 F50 ground ball get player by a mile
Didn't say he's not good, just saying that the one's I have mentioned have done it in big games and big finals and would be unanimously be known by most as the best small forwards in the game right now.

West just had his breakout season. He'll be there soon, I just don't have him there right now because he hasn't done it for as long as these other guys.
 
Didn't say he's not good, just saying that the one's I have mentioned have done it in big games and big finals and would be unanimously be known by most as the best small forwards in the game right now.

West just had his breakout season. He'll be there soon, I just don't have him there right now because he hasn't done it for as long as these other guys.
2 of the guys you named there had kicked 20 goals total for the year in Hill and Lohmann

West was significantly better then all 4 of the guys you named this year their past finals performances are now as relevant as JJs Norm Smith Medal or Jack Macraes Gary Ayres
 
Why have Melbourne gone cold on him?

I think because they are getting Max Heath as a backup ruck and Mihocek now for the fwd line, less of a need for another KPP. It's a good sign though that apparently GWS would still want him back and there are other suitors asking about him.
 
2 of the guys you named there had kicked 20 goals total for the year in Hill and Lohmann

West was significantly better then all 4 of the guys you named this year their past finals performances are now as relevant as JJs Norm Smith Medal or Jack Macraes Gary Ayres
Jeez you love a good argument.

Those were just examples sure. Some more are guys like Bailey and Kozzy. You know All Australians.

West had a good season yes. No one apart from maybe the blindest Dogs supporter would say that West is a better small forward so far in his career than any of the others. 1 good season doesn't cancel out the consistency of the others, especially in big games that matter.

If you wanna be specific about it West also feasted on a lot of the bottom 8 teams like our entire side did this year.
 
Jeez you love a good argument.

Those were just examples sure. Some more are guys like Bailey and Kozzy. You know All Australians.

West had a good season yes. No one apart from maybe the blindest Dogs supporter would say that West is a better small forward so far in his career than any of the others. 1 good season doesn't cancel out the consistency of the others, especially in big games that matter.

If you wanna be specific about it West also feasted on a lot of the bottom 8 teams like our entire side did this year.
Just a big fan of facts

Yes he wasn't quite at AA level correct,

Their careers are irrelevant you are only as good as your last season ask Oliver or Jamarra about that,

Also he kicked 17 of his 39 goals in our 11 games vs the top 8 sides and was only goalless once against the hawks 22 from the 12 against the bottom 9 suggests he was fairly consistent against both
 

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Anyone know what we / North are offering Budarick? Understand it’s a three year deal but do we know if the remuneration differs greatly?
 
I know the contracts are similar but don't know figures. Very different pitches though which have us very much leading the way.
If we keep most of Jamarra's contract on our books thoughts on a straight swap with Budarick? Maybe we send a late pick to them too?
 

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"Why be captained by Bont when you can have Jy Simpkin leading you out to an empty Marval each week and play with superstars like Zac Fisher, Darcy Tucker and Callum Coleman-Jones"
"Play with the captain that just re-signed for 4 years instead of the one actively trying to leave his club".
 
hehe...you know something is up with us when west coast are beating us for players! Go home factor or not!
Pretty sure related to ex skipper Glass too.
 
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If we keep most of Jamarra's contract on our books thoughts on a straight swap with Budarick? Maybe we send a late pick to them too?
My hypothetical I posted yesterday was
Jamarra & F3 for Budarick and F4. Purely speculation though.

"Why be captained by Bont when you can have Jy Simpkin leading you out to an empty Marval each week and play with superstars like Zac Fisher, Darcy Tucker and Callum Coleman-Jones"
North want him for his versatility, see him playing variety of defence, wing and pressure forwards where as the dogs pitched a permanent return to defence.
 
My hypothetical I posted yesterday was
Jamarra & F3 for Budarick and F4. Purely speculation though.


North want him for his versatility, see him playing variety of defence, wing and pressure forwards where as the dogs pitched a permanent return to defence.
Only way I can see us losing then is if North do a Saints and offer him 300k more then he is worth
 
Which premiership team in the last decade was not predominantly built via the draft?
You can draft and trade in players at the same time, which is what Geelong has done very well. This expectation that the players you draft are going to becoming reliable afl players isn't based in reality unless it's a single figure pick, and for high end players it's generally closer to a top 5 pick. If you trade out one pick it doesn't stop from bringing in a new group of draftees either and the current list has enough high end young talent so there's not a need to prioritise it like other clubs need to be doing.
 

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