Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[ossie_21]

I wish we had a list spot open so we could draft Matthew Panos

 

[TedDougChris]

I wish we had a list spot open so we could draft Matthew Panos

We haven’t won a game in months, I’d just delist everyone and start over

 

[BomToydd]

I wish we had a list spot open so we could draft Matthew Panos

Was written off way too early. Last I heard he was an inside mid racking up disposals

 

[goodcop badcop]

He is a far better kick than Cross BD.
Crossy couldn’t kick over a jam tin.

Agree with that, but he kicked the ball less then 6 times on average this year which isn't anywhere near good enough. It really is strange because Sanders at U16 level took the game on a lot more and kicked a lot more which gives me optimism that he can do it again. However he's had this handball obsession ever since after U16's and it seems to only be getting worse. Even this year he handballed it over a 2 to 1 ratio which was worse then ever and that really should never be happening given he's playing outside roles. Is it the way he's been coached? I don't know. I know he has to get out of this mindset or he's just going to end up being a bit average.

 

[Pencil case]

I think he ends up as currency for the butters trade too

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

 

[cecil]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

I mean it depends what we have to add to Sanders of course, but Butters is significantly better than Sanders probably ever will be

 

[iambrilliant]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

I’d like to keep sando and get butters ideally

 

[BrisDog]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

 

[adogsfan5]

Is Weightman back training?

 

[Salad dog]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

Butters is a top 3 mid in the league

 

[Pencil case]

I’d like to keep sando and get butters ideally

That’s what I meant. We could get him without losing Sanders. Just throw in an extra first or two instead.

 

[RWnBluey]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

Wow. Ok.

 

[RWnBluey]

Is Weightman back training?

Been doing a lot of cross-training but haven’t seen him running yet, even on the anti-gravity treadmill. Suspect they’re taking an ultra cautious approach to his rehab.

 

[txbyhull]

Hi fellas, what is the ruck Lachie Smith's contract situation and what is he like as a player in the VFL? Was brought up on our board

 

[Pencil case]

Hi fellas, what is the ruck Lachie Smith's contract situation and what is he like as a player in the VFL? Was brought up on our board

He’s decent and will never play AFL due to English. Same situation as Sweet. Definitely will be a cheap target for other clubs.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Hi fellas, what is the ruck Lachie Smith's contract situation and what is he like as a player in the VFL? Was brought up on our board

Improving well enough at his age to think he has an AFL future.

His game takes a lot of development because he's a short ruck made worse by a short wingspan and short jumping reach and an inability to play other positions other than ruck. So he has to be a crafty, physical ruck who reads the play and reads the stoppage well, your Ben Hudson/Toby Nankervis types.

By all accounts he's apparently happy to bide his time behind English and keep developing his game, and he is a Victorian so there's no interstate move motivation.

 

[lachy]

He’s decent and will never play AFL due to English. Same situation as Sweet. Definitely will be a cheap target for other clubs.

Much more mobile and better skills than Sweet. Never play is a massive statement

 

[Dale4captain]

Improving well enough at his age to think he has an AFL future.

His game takes a lot of development because he's a short ruck made worse by a short wingspan and short jumping reach and an inability to play other positions other than ruck. So he has to be a crafty, physical ruck who reads the play and reads the stoppage well, your Ben Hudson/Toby Nankervis types.

By all accounts he's apparently happy to bide his time behind English and keep developing his game, and he is a Victorian so there's no interstate move motivation.

He refused a 3 year extension earlier this year and instead went with a 1 year in order to prove himself and leave options open for other opportunities.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

He refused a 3 year extension earlier this year and instead went with a 1 year in order to prove himself and leave options open for other opportunities.

In a game that prefers to poach rather than develop young rucks. Or to keep journeymen the likes of Tom Campbell on a list as a backup. His refusal to sign a contract extension makes plenty of sense. He's already shown enough to suggest that he will be a competent ruck sooner rather than later. Whether that is with us, or at multiple clubs across the course of his career, remains to be seen.

 

[TiAn_]

Will be very interesting to see how Smith adapts to the new ruck rules. On paper it seems like a poor outcome for him.

 

[Unorth]

Butters is a necessary ingredient in any good Sando.

 

[weltschmerz]

Butters is a necessary ingredient in any good Sando.

Jack Mayo and Brayden Ham got delisted a few years ago.

 

[King Harold]

Agree with that, but he kicked the ball less then 6 times on average this year which isn't anywhere near good enough. It really is strange because Sanders at U16 level took the game on a lot more and kicked a lot more which gives me optimism that he can do it again. However he's had this handball obsession ever since after U16's and it seems to only be getting worse. Even this year he handballed it over a 2 to 1 ratio which was worse then ever and that really should never be happening given he's playing outside roles. Is it the way he's been coached? I don't know. I know he has to get out of this mindset or he's just going to end up being a bit average.

I wish he did kick it more because he is an above average kick.
Should be a focus for him in the pre season.

 

[bobs head soup]

Think he has a high floor, low ceiling. 'Special' is over the top. Was Bont playing 2s in his second year?

Bont played 16 games year 1, 21 games year 2.

Ryley played 14 games year 1, 21 games year 2.

Let's just hope Ryley maintains the trajectory and plays 26 games and a flag year 3.

 

[TedDougChris]

Bont played 16 games year 1, 21 games year 2.

Ryley played 14 games year 1, 21 games year 2.

Let's just hope Ryley maintains the trajectory and plays 26 games and a flag year 3.