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Le Cras time is done unless some freak occurrence happens to his cooked body [and attitude] over the summer. I think Jetta is never going to offer more than he can using his skills kicking goals. Maybe he can reinvent himself into an Eddie Betts, maybe he can't. But Le Cras is not a crumbing forward, he's played his entire career as a marking forward and there are better marking players in the side than him. He takes an age to dispose of the ball so unless he's taking a set shot [which he can't convert] or in open space he's useless. Jetta may not be the answer but its worth a try, Le Cras is just robbing someone else of an opportunity. He's a terrible finals player, 2017 is his last season, if it was any other club he'd be told the choice's are either retiring or going to the 2nds. We've seen a dozen better players in recent years let go by their club while playing better footy than he is. In his day he was a very good small forward but he's not anymore, like i said he could probably play until he's 40 and chip in 30 goals a season on the back of his skills and smarts during home and away dead time but when the contest gets willing in big matches or finals he simply can't lift his game to that level anymore. [and if you look at his finals record, maybe he never could]
I was not disputing that Lecras has his best footy behind him, Jetta is not even worth trying there though. Everyone keeps waiting for Jetta, Sydney did and now we are. been a very average AFL player his whole career. There is nothing to wait for. He has great skills but that is it.
 

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Where is it documented? I also wouldn't consider 10 trips a year As high mileage. Lower life expectancy could be due to constantly eating plane food. How does that end up in shorter afl careers anyway? I don't know want someone to explain it.

I want to know the science that makes flying taxing on bodies. Feeling refreshed isn't same as taxing that shortens careers. maybe feel tired because ur shitting ur pants because plane might crash. Some players might be like that. That can make u feel tired but as anyone can tell u when u fly a lot (as I have), once u have ur routine, u don't get tired. I never thought it was taxing on my body. Especially flight to Melbourne.

It's not like they are flying to dallas. Now that is a tough flight.

Low altitude flying makes the flight less comfortable.
Agree, I also fly a lot and long haul flights, not an issue as it was at the start. just part of life now.
 

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Defiunitely agree on Yo.He loves a goal.When you think about it he plays similar to Darling.Good excuse to trade Darling!!
Loves a goal, usually kicks a point instead but thats ok. One day he'll kick strait and bag 6, in the meantime I'm content for him to just make life easier for the other forwards while stretching the oppositions defence. Was a huge part of the win over Hawks in round 22, marked everything and destroyed their defensive structures. If he's not kicking 6, the other blokes are definitely still treating him like he probably can unless they have a plan to stop him.
 

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Where is it documented? I also wouldn't consider 10 trips a year As high mileage. Lower life expectancy could be due to constantly eating plane food.
The club needs to stump up and build an east west bullet train. Would make it a slightly longer commute but the boys could have their own rooms - could sleep the whole way. We could snap freeze them before they go so that they are in a state of suspended animation the whole way. Tip top shape when they arrive.
 

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Heard that Adelaide are after MCKenzie?
That one makes sense to me. Hartigan isn't that great and there's not much depth there after him and Talia. Lever might become a gun key back but at the moment he's really only going to take the third tall.
 

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I listened to Schofield and Butts' podcast throughout the year and got the impression that the players are pretty tight knit actually.
Yeah i remember that teams podcast where they said they werent very tight

Im glad our guys are very tight

Its good to be tight.

Or at least say you are tight in the podcast or people wont think you are tight.
 

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Let's not forget NBA and baseball flyers fly a lot more per year. I don't see any short retirements.

I think it's all mental and if a player retires early it's because they can't be bothered flying anymore and don't want to be away. Which is different to flying causing short careers.
 

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Priddis HFF? I've never seen that. Le Cras had been playing up the ground for some time. Wellers played middle for what, one game?

I'm not saying he should make moves for the sake of it. I'm saying he's proven more inflexible than I would have thought given the spiel he gave (which I loved) when he first got the job. To be fair, some of this has probably stemmed from injuries to key players.

I would like to see Yeo down back, Wellers up the field more.

I wonder, for example, whether we may see more McGovern forward next season? I'm certainly coming around to that thinking.
Think the Gov is too valuable in the backline and suits his type of play better. Just my opinion though;)
 

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Priddis HFF? I've never seen that. Le Cras had been playing up the ground for some time. Wellers played middle for what, one game?

I'm not saying he should make moves for the sake of it. I'm saying he's proven more inflexible than I would have thought given the spiel he gave (which I loved) when he first got the job. To be fair, some of this has probably stemmed from injuries to key players.

I would like to see Yeo down back, Wellers up the field more.

I wonder, for example, whether we may see more McGovern forward next season? I'm certainly coming around to that thinking.
Priddis was played on hff a few times in simmos first year. Didnt last long.
 

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I just wish Simpson would try Jetta up forward.

For a bloke who preached the importance of versatility he doesn't put it into action much at all, apart from maybe Yeo.
"We're really going to have to get creative and maybe do something out of the box to cover Nic in the ruck, maybe we'll surprise a few sides in finals and go small and unconventional like throw Darling in there" *picks Brown and Giles against Bulldogs
 

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Yeah i remember that teams podcast where they said they werent very tight

Im glad our guys are very tight

Its good to be tight.

Or at least say you are tight in the podcast or people wont think you are tight.
They didn't say "we're a tight group" you smartarse, it's the impression I got from listening to hours of them talking with/about their teammates
 

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I just wish Simpson would try Jetta up forward.

For a bloke who preached the importance of versatility he doesn't put it into action much at all, apart from maybe Yeo.
Think Simmo had a case of 3rd year blues this year. Thought his coaching was much better last year and he took more risks? Do think however Pyke was a big loss when he moved onto Adelaide. All coaches need the right balance of support (assistants). That's why I'm hoping the rumour I've heard that Coxy is going to take over the midfield coaching role is not correct (not taking anything away from Coxy but is he ready yet for that role?). Would love the Club to unbury a midfield Specialist coach!!
 

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Where is it documented? I also wouldn't consider 10 trips a year As high mileage. Lower life expectancy could be due to constantly eating plane food. How does that end up in shorter afl careers anyway? I don't know want someone to explain it.

I want to know the science that makes flying taxing on bodies. Feeling refreshed isn't same as taxing that shortens careers. maybe feel tired because ur shitting ur pants because plane might crash. Some players might be like that. That can make u feel tired but as anyone can tell u when u fly a lot (as I have), once u have ur routine, u don't get tired. I never thought it was taxing on my body. Especially flight to Melbourne.

It's not like they are flying to dallas. Now that is a tough flight.

Low altitude flying makes the flight less comfortable.
They put players in hyperbaric chambers to speed injury recovery. Would it not follow that low pressure would have the opposite effect - esp straight after a game.


Agree, I also fly a lot and long haul flights, not an issue as it was at the start. just part of life now.
Im tall - as are a lot of afl players - flying is misery to me - my knees are jammed into the seat in front - after two hours it really is torment - im gritting my teeth till its over.



And i havnt played a game of footy.

After a flight im out of sorts physically for a while.
 

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What if we played Jetta in Lecras spliter role where he starts a the back of the square? LEAVE Lecra in a forward pocket if he is to play next year. Jettas injury in early Jan and then another in the NAB cup never gave him much time to learn the structures implemented during the early stages of pre-season.

Priddis has not been played at HHF since 07 when Judd and Cousins where playing. I can see Priddis still playing for at least 2 years and if we are to progress we need to have Sheed, Shuey, Yeo, Duggan and Yeo spending as much time in the middle as possible. Priddis inst as bad a HHF as you think and would be more than handy compared to someone like Masten.
 

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Let's not forget NBA and baseball flyers fly a lot more per year. I don't see any short retirements.

I think it's all mental and if a player retires early it's because they can't be bothered flying anymore and don't want to be away. Which is different to flying causing short careers.
Don't know about that as it would depend upon what type of injuries you carry throughout your career. All I know is that Bluey McKenna stated post career that if he hadn't had to fly every 2nd week his career could have been prolonged (apparently in latter years played with a bad back).
 

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Where is it documented? I also wouldn't consider 10 trips a year As high mileage. Lower life expectancy could be due to constantly eating plane food. How does that end up in shorter afl careers anyway? I don't know want someone to explain it.

I want to know the science that makes flying taxing on bodies. Feeling refreshed isn't same as taxing that shortens careers. maybe feel tired because ur shitting ur pants because plane might crash. Some players might be like that. That can make u feel tired but as anyone can tell u when u fly a lot (as I have), once u have ur routine, u don't get tired. I never thought it was taxing on my body. Especially flight to Melbourne.

It's not like they are flying to dallas. Now that is a tough flight.

Low altitude flying makes the flight less comfortable.
I guess the best person to ask this question would be a Commercial Pilot?
 
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