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Sigh. Not pleased about being separated from the clubs. I'll report back if anything interesting happens though. :thumbsu:
Hoping for you it's not just an auditorium facing a projected screen with Excel shared on to it and someone typing in the selections as they are made. And if it is, then they at least better have an open bar - Not for you Curnow!
 

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Still bullish about Clarke's availability around 27 - 28. Seems like he is a player that is just primed to run on the wider fields of Domain. Also like Thomas Cole, Daniel Rioli and Mason Redman.

Who I don't want is Josh Dunkley. My gut feel is his attitude stinks and would always have the go home factor associated with him. Also Mitch Hibberd, only going off what I've read recently but has he said he doesn't want to come West?


At our mid 30's pick I like James Parsons. Another strong outside runner with good foot skills. Also like thei dea of Brayden Fiorini, David Cunningham and Kieran Lovell. I like Nathan Broad as a smokey as well.

What I don't want is Marcus Adams or another taller defender for example Hartley or McCasker. These guys are already the size required to play AFL straight away or building up to it in McCasker's case, my gut feel is I'm backing in our current crop and that we don't need that right now.


Ideally with out third pick I'd like a tall forward that we can develop. Already a solid size but Matthew Allan from SA or Sam Skinner from VIC would be ideal here. Can trim Allan down with a solid pre season and watch him go about his work in the WAFL, priming him for when JJK retires. If unavailable I like Nick Coughlan and Dylan Smith as talls, Declan Mountford as mid or Hisham Kerbatieh as a genuine small forward - if we don't draft Rioli. WA mids Schoenfield and Clark as outside runners in the mix as well.

What I don't want to see is Sam Menegola drafted here. Not because I don't like him as a player, i enjoy his work and his a bull of a contested player, but more so because he is a player that deserves to be closer to a best 22 than he would be at West Coast. If he was to go earlier 4th round to a team that could use him straight away for example Carlton as a inside mid alongside Cripps that would be far more beneficial for Sam's football. Too good for WAFL level footy
Pretty strong opinions there. I'd back our staff to get Dunkley on board if we drafted him, and he is a good prospect. We really can't complain if we get him at pick 30, our plan should be to take the most talented regardless. WRT Menegola, he would likely move into Rosa's spot in the depth chart, nothing to complain about there in terms of opportunities. At our stage we need ready made guys just as much as we need young prospects. In fact, our moves on Main, Powell and Newman show that we're likely moving towards more ready made guys than potential L/T prospects that require more development. Id say we feel we have enough of those already with Waterman, Cavka, Karpany, Lamb. Agree with you on the KPF, but would also add a need for a ruck as well. An opinions there?

For mine, this reminds me very much of the 2011 draft. Just hope we pick a Yeo instead of a Newman.
 

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Dunkley nominated the Swans because WCE were interested and he would rather play in Victoria where it is closer to Sydney.....What is with all these kids having say where they get drafted early on? Curnow has also come out saying he doesn't want to leave Victoria too.
 
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Dunkley nominated the Swans because WCE were interested and he would rather play in Victoria where it is closer to Sydney.....What is with all these kids having say where they get drafted early on? Curnow has also come out saying he doesn't want to leave Victoria too.
Imagine the cheek of a person wanting the freedom to live where they choose.
 

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Dunkley nominated the Swans because WCE were interested and he would rather play in Victoria where it is closer to Sydney.....What is with all these kids having say where they get drafted early on? Curnow has also come out saying he doesn't want to leave Victoria too.
If they want it to be a truly national game then they have to do something about this. It will become a nightmare if every player starts dictating where they would and wouldn't like to go. It's certainly not in the best interests of the sport and it undoes the work the AFL has already done. They are paid to play so if they go in to the draft they should be willing to play (to the best of their abilities) wherever they end up. Otherwise why bother having a draft? Once they finish their first contract then they can negotiate to leave if they still want to.

Curnow I get though - booze is cheaper over East.
 

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Imagine the cheek of a person wanting the freedom to live where they choose.
It compromises the nature of the draft.

The draft should be just that - compulsory recruitment irrespective of the recruit's wishes.

Put it in the context of conscription - sure, a civilian might not have wanted to go to war, and no one would blame him for that, but that should not (and did not) affect whether or not that kid got drafted.

Kids saying they don't want to be drafted into certain teams is almost the equivalent of someone saying 'if I get conscripted I'm going to go awol'.
 

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What I don't want to see is Sam Menegola drafted here. Not because I don't like him as a player, i enjoy his work and his a bull of a contested player, but more so because he is a player that deserves to be closer to a best 22 than he would be at West Coast. If he was to go earlier 4th round to a team that could use him straight away for example Carlton as a inside mid alongside Cripps that would be far more beneficial for Sam's football. Too good for WAFL level footy
Nah, take him ;). He is better than Hutch.
 

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Pretty strong opinions there. I'd back our staff to get Dunkley on board if we drafted him, and he is a good prospect. We really can't complain if we get him at pick 30, our plan should be to take the most talented regardless. WRT Menegola, he would likely move into Rosa's spot in the depth chart, nothing to complain about there in terms of opportunities. At our stage we need ready made guys just as much as we need young prospects. In fact, our moves on Main, Powell and Newman show that we're likely moving towards more ready made guys than potential L/T prospects that require more development. Id say we feel we have enough of those already with Waterman, Cavka, Karpany, Lamb. Agree with you on the KPF, but would also add a need for a ruck as well. An opinions there?

For mine, this reminds me very much of the 2011 draft. Just hope we pick a Yeo instead of a Newman.
Maybe I am reading it wrong but I think the delistings were about freeing up TPP for future trades and not so we can build more immediate depth with mature age recruits. With a 38-6 profile we only have 3 live picks and just because our list is so balanced I'd be surprised if we didn't look at development picks with all of them - especially by adding some more speed to our list. I think Menegola has improved a lot but if you had a choice of playing him or Sheed/Duggan who would you play? I'd much rather stick with our two young guns in the making which is why I'd also pass on him for one of our picks.

I like your thinking on the ruck but not sure we'd make room for one in our three ND picks. Maybe we'll add one to our rookie list? I like the athleticism of Nyuon, I just don't know if he could build the build/strength for AFL - if the recruiters think he can then I'd pick him.
 

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Dunkley nominated the Swans because WCE were interested and he would rather play in Victoria where it is closer to Sydney.....What is with all these kids having say where they get drafted early on? Curnow has also come out saying he doesn't want to leave Victoria too.
How do you know we were interested?
 

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With Newman not to be rookie-d it leaves WCE with Lucas , Waterman , Colledge and maybe Tunbridge as rookies ....leaving two picks in the rookie draft on Friday and three picks if Tunbridge misses out ?
 

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Dunkley nominated the Swans because WCE were interested and he would rather play in Victoria where it is closer to Sydney.....What is with all these kids having say where they get drafted early on? Curnow has also come out saying he doesn't want to leave Victoria too.
Sometimes it back fires on them and they end up playing for Melbourne or Carlton though. Buckley prime example...
 

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With Newman not to be rookie-d it leaves WCE with Lucas , Waterman , Colledge and maybe Tunbridge as rookies ....leaving two picks in the rookie draft on Friday and three picks if Tunbridge misses out ?
Rumors we were into Shaw and Cameron so they could be our 2 rookie picks.
 

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Pretty strong opinions there. I'd back our staff to get Dunkley on board if we drafted him, and he is a good prospect. We really can't complain if we get him at pick 30, our plan should be to take the most talented regardless. WRT Menegola, he would likely move into Rosa's spot in the depth chart, nothing to complain about there in terms of opportunities. At our stage we need ready made guys just as much as we need young prospects. In fact, our moves on Main, Powell and Newman show that we're likely moving towards more ready made guys than potential L/T prospects that require more development. Id say we feel we have enough of those already with Waterman, Cavka, Karpany, Lamb. Agree with you on the KPF, but would also add a need for a ruck as well. An opinions there?

For mine, this reminds me very much of the 2011 draft. Just hope we pick a Yeo instead of a Newman.
I like Menegola, I just don't know if he is such a required player for our current midfield. If we wanted to have an idea post Priddis than he's absolutely someone to consider. That reasoning is why a mature age mid like Kane Lambert (now with Richmond) or Chris Cain would have been ideal in the 2013 draft when we drafted Dylan Main instead. In terms of depth chart Hutchings almost becomes the Rosa and Duggan/ Jetta and Redden slot into the 22 from GF Day.

On Friday if we have the list room to draft a rookie ruckman along with Waterman and Colledge/ Newman that's ideal. A WA product thats missed out on the last couple of national drafts because he was still quite raw is Darcy Cameron but from what I've read and heard from the WAFL he is now physically ready for an AFL listed spot.

Of the potential draftees tonight who might miss out I like Mitch King from the Murray Bushrangers. Rucks well, is a strong pack mark and hits it to the right areas for his team mates. His foot skills are nice for a big man without being exceptional and drops back to help out his defenders regularly to take saving marks. At 90 kg's his someone that we could really look to develop well behind regular rucks Naitanui and Lycett and Giles at WAFL level.

Andre Parella is another one but a player who is a much bigger body than King. Similar to Lycett in terms of size, he rucks well and uses his bigger body (bigger than most teenagers) to get himself into a better position than his opponent.
 

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Rumors we were into Shaw and Cameron so they could be our 2 rookie picks.
Mason Shaw? Haven't read that much into him recently. I know post season and during trade period there was a lot of rumour that Freo would have a go at him but haven't heard as much chatter about that recently.
 

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Maybe I am reading it wrong but I think the delistings were about freeing up TPP for future trades and not so we can build more immediate depth with mature age recruits. With a 38-6 profile we only have 3 live picks and just because our list is so balanced I'd be surprised if we didn't look at development picks with all of them - especially by adding some more speed to our list. I think Menegola has improved a lot but if you had a choice of playing him or Sheed/Duggan who would you play? I'd much rather stick with our two young guns in the making which is why I'd also pass on him for one of our picks.

I like your thinking on the ruck but not sure we'd make room for one in our three ND picks. Maybe we'll add one to our rookie list? I like the athleticism of Nyuon, I just don't know if he could build the build/strength for AFL - if the recruiters think he can then I'd pick him.
We could have easily moved McGinnity, Lucas, etc on instead of the project players previously mentioned. The fact is we kept the players who could contribute immediately over the guys who would still need a couple more seasons of development.
 
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Mason Shaw? Haven't read that much into him recently. I know post season and during trade period there was a lot of rumour that Freo would have a go at him but haven't heard as much chatter about that recently.
Eagles have done the medicals etc , pretty much a sure thing maybe , as far as drafting goes .
 
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