List Mgmt. Trade/Draft SuperMegaUltraThread - 2016 edition?

[flamingEMBERS]

Ever since I heard about this guy's attributes I've wanted him in the side. We desperately need that physicality.

However, dat flog haircut - will he pass the Nisbett good boy test?

Anyone know what he's like as a person? I can see us passing if he's a bit of a loose cannon.

Although in saying that, we did draft Newman.

This is everything we need. I'm talking about the haircut. Who last had that hair cut? Daniel ****en Kerr. What do we miss in our team? A midfielder with campaigner and agro. If we get him, I hope he keeps the hair cut and I hope correlates to being campaigner on the field. Looking at his attributes I doubt he lasts to our pick. We must trade Mackenzie to somehow lower our pick for him. There should also be draft night trading!

 

[The Gtrain]

This is everything we need. I'm talking about the haircut. Who last had that hair cut? Daniel ****en Kerr. What do we miss in our team? A midfielder with campaigner and agro. If we get him, I hope he keeps the hair cut and I hope correlates to being campaigner on the field. Looking at his attributes I doubt he lasts to our pick. We must trade Mackenzie to somehow lower our pick for him. There should also be draft night trading!

Much like a Dustin Martin!! That i would like.

 

[Chris_6678]

This is everything we need. I'm talking about the haircut. Who last had that hair cut? Daniel ****en Kerr. What do we miss in our team? A midfielder with campaigner and agro. If we get him, I hope he keeps the hair cut and I hope correlates to being campaigner on the field. Looking at his attributes I doubt he lasts to our pick. We must trade Mackenzie to somehow lower our pick for him. There should also be draft night trading!

Going by phantom drafts it is looking like he is a late first rounder so we should be able to pick him up.

 

[Big_Tony]

Edit: it didn't read so well when commented in line

1. Probably more than we are willing to give up. First rounder plus a player or two firsts....don't believe a 32 gamer is worth that even based on potential. Although looking at that Tom Boyd trade..Griffin and pick 6, GWS must be very happy with how that panned out

2. We already have Nic Nat on a large salary. wow 700k..no thanks, we could almost(big big pinch of salt) have fyfe for that or rocky not sure who else we could snare with that money.

3. Would have to move forward or become the Uber utility, not sure if Darling to the midfield will ever happen full time, it just hasn't worked.

I agree. At the very least it might have to be our first rounder (pick 12-15ish) plus say Duggan, which they are still unlikely to go for. Good big men are generally harder to find than midfielders (except at our club it seems). He would definitely be handy next year; but beyond that I'm just not sure where he would fit in. The club would have to sell him a long term vision for his role, a player like that won't be content to play as a stop gap for a year.

 

[Pat_Footy]

Ok, so about all this Rory Lobb talk. These are the big questions in my mind (apologies if they have already been discussed).

1. GWS don't want him to go and are going to play hardball. What would it take to get him? Which picks/players would we trade?
2. Do we even have enough in our salary cap to go after him? Figures floating around the media are $700K+ per year. We already have Nic Nat on a large salary.
3. When Nic Nat eventually comes back... what would we do with Lobb? The only place he could really go would be the forward line, but that might make us top heavy with a resting ruckman also? Maybe Darling would need to move out and into the midfield?

Have you watched Lobb play other than the WCE game? He is a star of the competition already. He takes every mark in his vicinity. Our game plan at the moment is to kick long to Naitanui. Lobb opens up a whole range of options. A far superior "Q Stick" who used to play that role.

If lobb demands a high salary, I would be happy to retire a few players that got extensions off career best form - LeCras the main culprit.

 

[2006_Eagles]

How many players do we have out of contract this year?

 

[nameless]

Here's the video for anyone interested. He looks pretty exciting, love the way he hits the contest at pace.

Anyone else get a serious Peter Matera vibe from the way he runs / holds the ball / kicks the footy (with less accuracy)?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

How many players do we have out of contract this year?

On the senior list - Bennell, McGinnity, Brown, Lamb, Butler, Hill, (edit: and Hutchings). Possibly McInnes, not sure what Redden's situation is. Plus Cavka and Ellis have already retired.

Think that's it.

 

[06Premiers]

On the senior list - Bennell, McGinnity, Brown, Lamb, Butler, Hill. Possibly McInnes, not sure what Redden's situation is. Plus Cavka and Ellis have already retired.

Think that's it.

Hutch?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Hutch?

Oh yeah, good pick up.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Bennell, McGinnity, Brown, Lamb, Butler, Hill, (edit: and Hutchings). Possibly McInnes, not sure what Redden's situation is. Plus Cavka and Ellis

I see these 5 gone via trade or delisting.

McInnes and Brown will be kept for depth. If we get Lobb then my guess is McInnes is gone unless Mackenzie pulls the plug.

Hill and Butler one year extensions.

 

[Big_Tony]

Have you watched Lobb play other than the WCE game? He is a star of the competition already. He takes every mark in his vicinity. Our game plan at the moment is to kick long to Naitanui. Lobb opens up a whole range of options. A far superior "Q Stick" who used to play that role.

If lobb demands a high salary, I would be happy to retire a few players that got extensions off career best form - LeCras the main culprit.

I'm not disputing he is a great player and would be an excellent inclusion for us next year. I would love to pick him up. He is contracted though; if we want him we are going to have to give up something of real value. And our team balance would also be quite different with Lycett/Nic Nat/Lobb all in the same lineup. We still need to maintain a good balance of body types no matter how good he is. I am not saying we shouldn't try and get him... just discussing what it might mean.

 

[Monocle]

Just have this feeling we will be safe and go for Gallucci[/QUOTE

 

[2006_Eagles]

Bennell, McGinnity, Brown, Lamb, Butler, Hill, (edit: and Hutchings). Possibly McInnes, not sure what Redden's situation is. Plus Cavka and Ellis

I see these 5 gone via trade or delisting.

McInnes and Brown will be kept for depth. If we get Lobb then my guess is McInnes is gone unless Mackenzie pulls the plug.

Hill and Butler one year extensions.

If Lamb is random trade bait you have to seriously ask questions why he was taken before Blakely

 

[Keys]

On the senior list - Bennell, McGinnity, Brown, Lamb, Butler, Hill, (edit: and Hutchings). Possibly McInnes, not sure what Redden's situation is. Plus Cavka and Ellis have already retired.

Think that's it.

So Cavka and Ellis definitely gone obviously
Bennell would be done you'd think
Is this the year we finally call curtains on McGinnity?

I think Butler, Hutchings and Hill will get another year although Butler is an outside chance of retiring

Lamb will most likely ask for a trade

Fair chance we will cut McInnes even if contracted

Brown I suspect we will keep unless he looks at his options and asks to go elsewhere as a FA. Compenstion, if any, will be minimal

Lucas and Colledge won't survive as rookies. Snadden will. Tunbridge might.

Waterman depends on how his recovery from glandular fever is going so from outside we have no idea

Brophy and Adamson will both be kept as Cat B rookies

At a minimum we will have 6 senior list and 2 rookies depart. Could be as high as 8 and 4 which is a fairly high turnover (a quarter of the list)

 

[Agent93]

3. Would have to move forward or become the Uber utility, not sure if Darling to the midfield will ever happen full time, it just hasn't worked.

Or 3. The forward line changes if/when either LeCras and/or Hill move on.

If we're looking 1.5 to 2 years down the track with a fit Naitanui back in the side, then LeCras at 29 hasn't been fantastic. LeCras at 20/31 might not be best 22 at all. Josh Hill's not essential to our team going forward, and could easily be replaceable in our side right now if a young bloke had (read: Lamb) stepped up.

North looked best in the early rounds when all of Waite, Petrie, Brown, and even Wood at times were running around the forward line. There's nothing to say we can't operate with Kennedy, Lobb and Darling, and maybe the resting ruckman in our front half.

Hell, Kennedy could take the relief field mark and then actually have someone up the ground to kick to. The man Darling releases with a monster handball could have 2 options to kick to. Do you stop Kennedy/Darling on the lead or try to outmark / spoil Lobb with high ball coming in? Priddis would love it; high bombs near the guy who is 10cm taller than his defender with an extremely long reach.

 

[WCE_phil]

If Lamb is random trade bait you have to seriously ask questions why he was taken before Blakely

Because blakely can't kick. I wanted menadue for our second rounder. Lamb just screamed bust to me because of a lack of game sense.

 

[Keys]

If Lamb is random trade bait you have to seriously ask questions why he was taken before Blakely

Because blakely can't kick. I wanted menadue for our second rounder. Lamb just screamed bust to me because of a lack of game sense.

Lamb is a pretty talented footballer - has a heap of ability although I agree with Phil that he does lack game sense.

Selecting him with our 2nd rounder was a risk but if I recall the recruiters at the time said they couldn't overlook his talent. Given we often bemoan the clubs risk averse drafting it was a risk worth taking even if it appears it may not have paid off.

Had we chosen Blakely he'd be getting pilloried on here as another of our poorly skilled midfielders - we also had Waterman from that draft and obviously didn't anticipate him getting glandular fever.

Personally i hope that Lamb stays for another year because there's a genuinely exciting footballer under those blonde dreadies if he can get his head (and heart) right

 

[eagles rule]

Ok, so about all this Rory Lobb talk. These are the big questions in my mind (apologies if they have already been discussed).

1. GWS don't want him to go and are going to play hardball. What would it take to get him? Which picks/players would we trade?
2. Do we even have enough in our salary cap to go after him? Figures floating around the media are $700K+ per year. We already have Nic Nat on a large salary.
3. When Nic Nat eventually comes back... what would we do with Lobb? The only place he could really go would be the forward line, but that might make us top heavy with a resting ruckman also? Maybe Darling would need to move out and into the midfield?

Media reports of $700K are ridiculous and I would imagine his GWS contract is worth about $350 -$400 K . A WCE contract offer between $500 -600 K seem more realistic .

 

[2006_Eagles]

Media reports of $700K are ridiculous and I would imagine his GWS contract is worth about $350 -$400 K . A WCE contract between $500 -600 K seem more realistic .

Nic Nat is on 700k and Jenkins on 550k and he hasn't done either as much as those two guys in his short career

 

[Agent93]

He takes every mark in his vicinity.

Possibly true - he's second in the comp for contested marks per game this season. Our own Turbo is 8th and only 0.27 of a mark behind.

However, Lobb doesn't even make the top 100 in the league for total marks per game. GWS's best forward is Patton at #58, ours is Kennedy at #36. The best full time forward is Hogan at #7, and Riewoldt (who has been the outlet on the wing) leads the competition. No primary ruckman is in the top 100.

Based on this season's stats Lobb has the averages of 1.7 contested marks, 1 total mark, and 0.5 goals per game over our own Lycett. He also has 0.9 less disposals, 1.4 less tackles, and 12.7 less hit-outs per game. He's 4 months and 15 games less experienced. The way the numbers stack up he's probably not worth any more than Lycett in salary, or in a trade.

In comparing with Naitanui he's up 0.9 contested marks, 2.1 total marks, 0.7 goals, but down 3.1 clearances, 27.9 hit-outs, 1.7 i50s, and 0.9 disposals. Lobb is more a marking forward, Naitanui is more a midfielder. You're probably not going to be able to replace Naitanui's impact with Lobb, but you'd likely replace Lycett. Question is can Lycett replace Naitanui (at least for a season)?

 

[WCE1698]

Would be stupid to trade Lamb this early in his development, it's rare for players with his attributes and stature to develop quickly within 2 years some players take longer than others. If Lamb was at Hawthorn they would give him 3/4 years to prove himself, for example Sicily is 21 and its first year in the AFL, Lamb is only 19 still.

 

[reimersworstguy]

I agree. At the very least it might have to be our first rounder (pick 12-15ish) plus say Duggan, which they are still unlikely to go for. Good big men are generally harder to find than midfielders (except at our club it seems). He would definitely be handy next year; but beyond that I'm just not sure where he would fit in. The club would have to sell him a long term vision for his role, a player like that won't be content to play as a stop gap for a year.

lol at people who throw duggan up as a possible trade.

No.

 

[Big_Tony]

Media reports of $700K are ridiculous and I would imagine his GWS contract is worth about $350 -$400 K . A WCE contract between $500 -600 K seem more realistic .

That would be more realistic you would think. Still, that is no small sum. We might be in a bidding war with Freo for him and they would have far more room in their cap than us. In our favor is that they are also chasing McCarthy.

 

[swooshacummings]

Who is 10 years younger than Harvey

Form however is poles apart. Injury wise Harvey is in better condition also. What is it that makes you certain that Harvey is too old to stick in a fwd pocket if he has lost none of his pace?