List Mgmt. Trade/Draft Talk III - Zaharakis for a SIG BET?

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We're not comparing a spineless Gold Coast team full of undisciplined kids to the Hawks machine are we?

The reality is that Lewis is ineffective (I don't care for the bnf results) and Hill is average (with Hartung being the natural replacement). Mitchell hurts but that's the sacrifice they make to pursue an immediate rebuild.

It's excellent list management. Whether Hawthorn can manage the emotions of their players is another matter.

Yes, we did see something similar when our non-Dynasty of 2000 ended but that was both a miss-management of the list and the players. At least Hawthorn can sell a future based on the presence of three players who are as structurally important as anyone on the list as opposed to the inflated contracts of Mercuri and Hird.
I think you guys are both wrong. This is a consequence of how good the Hawks have been but it has ironically worked out badly for them. They chased Vickery, Titch, and JOM. But they never would have expected all three.

Problem is you can't court a player, have him leave their club and nominate you and then turn around and renege on the deal because no player would ever leave to play for you again.

So they initially would have expected to have to find a few draft picks and ask a few players to take minor pay cuts but instead they had to lose practically all their draft picks and jettison important players. It isn't their fault - it is actually them doing what they wanted far too well - but they wouldn't have wanted it to work out this way.

They will be without high value draft picks for then next two years and they lost Mitchell. We and the Crows have shown that isn't a death sentence but when you take into account the fact that they didn't have a lot of high quality young talent to begin with they will be desperately hoping JOM isn't just good but a star.
 

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Josh Kelly has played some excellent matches. But will he ever get to the stage where he plays them every week? Serious inconsistency. I know he is young.

O'Meara and 8 for 1 I would do. Doubt we would get 4.
 
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Josh Kelly has played some excellent matches. But will he ever get to the stage where he plays them every week? Serious inconsistency. I know he is young.

O'Meara and 8 for 1 I would do. Doubt we would get 4.
according to Gerard Healy/Dermott he is played out of position due to depth of talent, I'd say that would contribute to inconsistency issues but hey look at Tom Scully this year, I'd happily have Kelly at Essendon, Kelly and pick 2 :)
 

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Problem is you can't court a player, have him leave their club and nominate you and then turn around and renege on the deal because no player would ever leave to play for you again.

Port Adelaide say hello You are giving AFL players and their management too much credit. But i agree with everything else.
 

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Stewart out of FF would be great. Settle Hooker in defence and Bellchambers as 2nd fiddle to Leuey.
Hopefully Stewart is up to it. I wonder if Stewart/Daniher/Bellchambers makes us too tall and whether we might go four small to mid-sized players instead, like Laverde, Fanta, Tippa and Langford. Bellcho is not exactly nimble.
 

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Wait, are peolpe actually expecting a guy who has been playing NEAFL for the last 4 seasons to be walk up start in our 22? I would have Hooker ahead of him in the forward line because Hooker is a vastly superior player. We have enough quality down back as it is anyway. Let Stewart start in the VFL and see how he goes against better standard of competition.
 

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Wait, are peolpe actually expecting a guy who has been playing NEAFL for the last 4 seasons to be walk up start in our 22? I would have Hooker ahead of him in the forward line because Hooker is a vastly superior player. We have enough quality down back as it is anyway. Let Stewart start in the VFL and see how he goes against better standard of competition.
I'm not. I'm expecting Woosha to make the decision.
 

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I agree with Brian Lake, it might be best if Jordan Lewis leaves Hawthorn, on that considering Melbourne are in line for Hibberd, could a deal result in Lewis going to Essendon in exchange for Hibberd to Melbourne and pick 19 or our 3rd round pick to Hawthorn
No thank you!!!!
 

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I don't really agree with the last few posts expressing that Hawthorn are selling the farm etc, they may end up paying alot for Jaegar but if he returns and develops along how he once was they will have a future Brownlow medalist capable of carrying a team he was that impressive in his early years.

This reminds me of Judd...

Great player and did everything he possibly could for Carlton but it was not enough to win them a flag.

Too many eggs - 1 Basket
 
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