List Mgmt. Trade & F.A. 2017 (if a scenario sounds wrong - read on before posting)

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I'm literally just asking questions about a player who I have very little knowledge about. To me it seems we already have a number of players in this position... Is he worth getting given that fact?
He takes the game on from the back line but to be honest he doesn't inspire me as the missing link in our team.

Let's get the KPP's this year and draft or rookie a Saad "type" later in the draft just like GCS did.
 

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The last 4 pages have contained a debate regarding how morally / ethically wrong his 'cheat-on-pregnant-wife-with-a-17-year-old' actions were. We (Collingwood) are not in to him any longer, latest report is. Dunno what thread you're reading if you've missed that?



Do you know where he's at RE contract? As in, how much time he has left on it?
I know very little about him.
Haha sorry bud missed what ya were saying in ya post.....was just pointing out the article and Saad bit but to be honest with ya, I haven't read the Stringer article nor do I plan too as I couldn't give 2 shits about it and what he's done and same goes for all the stuff on here regarding him......it doesn't bother me one little bit what he supposedly did.
 

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Where did you hear this?
I really doubt Brisbane would do this deal.
Not sure if it was structured by Brisbae or us. Came through the same person that told me we would draft Dale Thomas with pick 2 in the 2005 national draft. Had the same number of personal messages after posting that on here.

Could be right could be wrong, I think it’s legitimate but at the same there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before trade periods up...we could give our third rounder for jack watts...or trade for Saad. Too many moving parts.
 

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He takes the game on from the back line but to be honest he doesn't inspire me as the missing link in our team.

Let's get the KPP's this year and draft or rookie a Saad "type" later in the draft just like GCS did.
He's definitely not the missing link mate but I reckon he'd fill a hole at the same time but agree our focus and priority should be on KPP's......would just depend on what GC would want in return for him, still under contract I believe.
 

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I'm literally just asking questions about a player who I have very little knowledge about. To me it seems we already have a number of players in this position... Is he worth getting given that fact?
We don't have anyone like him on our list. Sinclair's closest for pace but doesn't take the game on to the same degree.

Saad is genuinely quick and has led the league for bounces per game for each of the last three years.

We need players that break lines pretty desperately. He breaks more than pretty much anyone. May sometimes be a bit out of control when doing so, but that's the risk of taking the game on.
 

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Haha sorry bud missed what ya were saying in ya post.....was just pointing out the article and Saad bit but to be honest with ya, I haven't read the Stringer article nor do I plan too as I couldn't give 2 shits about it and what he's done and same goes for all the stuff on here regarding him......it doesn't bother me one little bit what he supposedly did.
Righteo
 

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He's definitely not the missing link mate but I reckon he'd fill a hole at the same time but agree our focus and priority should be on KPP's......would just depend on what GC would want in return for him, still under contract I believe.
I am happy to draft KPP this year but I want/demand Lynch next year.
 

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I am happy to draft KPP this year but I want/demand Lynch next year.
Yeah I am keen on Lynch. Would do 2 X first rounders (1 future) for him if we get a third rounder back. That wouldn't be the best scenario for GC (losing Lynch), but double first round picks for 2 years would be handy. Especially if 2m Peter stays.

However, I am not sure it can happen. AFL are determined to make the expansion clubs work. With Brisbane having had big struggles of recent, too, and only just now turning the corner I think the AFL will be all about rebuilding GC over next few years. A big part of that will be ensuring they keep the best talents, and get the best coaches.

Maybe we do need to just utilise cox/reid/moore/dunn/Grundy as our talls? Some teams would kill to have those options.
Looking at current successful models (Adelaide and Richmond) is tricky, though, because Adelaide have a great balance in their fwd line and their talls are star quality (albeit Jenkins is a bit of a contentious one). But Richmond only really have Jack Reiwoldt as a genuine gun forward... Hawthorn was similar in latter days only having Roughead. But in both those cases their smalls and mediums contributed stacks. Same as Bulldogs 2016.

Elliot, Fasolo, WHE + Moore and Cox/Grundy/Reid actually gives us a pretty decent forward line. The issue is more getting them all on the park at the same time. WHE is great when he goes forward - and a really accurate set shot. Elliot is a star and Fas is capable of 40 in a season but is laconic.
Add in Daicos, Kirby, Crocker (who have all shown signs as small forwards) + a resting Levi or De Goey, and that CAN be a good forward line. It all comes down to coaching after that.
 

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He takes the game on from the back line but to be honest he doesn't inspire me as the missing link in our team.

Let's get the KPP's this year and draft or rookie a Saad "type" later in the draft just like GCS did.
He's literally a top 5 small defender in the AFL... Gold Coast lucked out on him in the rookie draft you won't find a guy with his speed and run mixed with his defensive ability very easily.
 

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Yeah I am keen on Lynch. Would do 2 X first rounders (1 future) for him if we get a third rounder back. That wouldn't be the best scenario for GC (losing Lynch), but double first round picks for 2 years would be handy. Especially if 2m Peter stays.

However, I am not sure it can happen. AFL are determined to make the expansion clubs work. With Brisbane having had big struggles of recent, too, and only just now turning the corner I think the AFL will be all about rebuilding GC over next few years. A big part of that will be ensuring they keep the best talents, and get the best coaches.

Maybe we do need to just utilise cox/reid/moore/dunn/Grundy as our talls? Some teams would kill to have those options.
Looking at current successful models (Adelaide and Richmond) is tricky, though, because Adelaide have a great balance in their fwd line and their talls are star quality (albeit Jenkins is a bit of a contentious one). But Richmond only really have Jack Reiwoldt as a genuine gun forward... Hawthorn was similar in latter days only having Roughead. But in both those cases their smalls and mediums contributed stacks. Same as Bulldogs 2016.

Elliot, Fasolo, WHE + Moore and Cox/Grundy/Reid actually gives us a pretty decent forward line. The issue is more getting them all on the park at the same time. WHE is great when he goes forward - and a really accurate set shot. Elliot is a star and Fas is capable of 40 in a season but is laconic.
Add in Daicos, Kirby, Crocker (who have all shown signs as small forwards) + a resting Levi or De Goey, and that CAN be a good forward line. It all comes down to coaching after that.
I agree this year the AFL will not let it happen.

I am talking next year......"we" apparently told him to sign till next year.

If a uncontracted player wants out then 10 times out if 10 they get to the club they want.

Let's just get the best KPP 18 year old kid at pick 6 this year.......12 months is a long time in football.
 

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Fair enough but another quick player with dodgy hammies doesn't inspire me.
Eh, a 10 game stretch in 2016 out of a possible 66 games in 3 years isn't exactly a trend. Not ideal either, but he didn't miss a game this year.

He's a considerable upgrade on Sinclair by position. Chase him, but by no means give away the store. 36 and maybe a player like Smith should be our opening offer.

Bringing in an asset like Saad is not incompatible with filling the other holes...
 
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