List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2018/2019 - Part 3

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CFC2010

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Injuries happen and he’s had his fair share. I can see why they gave him the extra year but from what I have seen this year it’s time to part ways.

My point was probably more to people mentioning it on here. I would have some serious worries over our recruiting staff if that thought even crossed their mind.
Sam Murray......Josh Thomas.......Lachlan Keeffe say hi Soups.

If he doesn’t get another “charity year” our Club are the biggest hypocrites ever.
 

Harry O

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I'd be less than enthusiastic. May ultimately return and realise his enormous potential but I'd say the chances of that are pretty slim.
Giants are trying to clear cap space like Scully. You can probably get him for pick 70 but only if you take on his 700k contract
 

Johno9911

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What would Darcy Fogarty cost from the Crows? Drafted at 12 year before last but hasn't played a game this season and with rumblings that a couple of Crows players may be disgruntled at the club I wouldn't mind us seeing if we could lure him here.

I was big fan of him in his draft year, 192/193cm forward, posses good pace, solid goal kicking and the ability to get up the ground has me thinking he could be a great double act with JDG down the track.
 

grayza2018

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What would Darcy Fogarty cost from the Crows? Drafted at 12 year before last but hasn't played a game this season and with rumblings that a couple of Crows players may be disgruntled at the club I wouldn't mind us seeing if we could lure him here.

I was big fan of him in his draft year, 192/193cm forward, posses good pace, solid goal kicking and the ability to get up the ground has me thinking he could be a great double act with JDG down the track.
I wouldn't mind either, but we wouldn't really have a leg to stand on trade wise, unless Grundy tells us he wants to go back to SA so we try maximise value before free agency?
 

soreplums

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What would Darcy Fogarty cost from the Crows? Drafted at 12 year before last but hasn't played a game this season and with rumblings that a couple of Crows players may be disgruntled at the club I wouldn't mind us seeing if we could lure him here.

I was big fan of him in his draft year, 192/193cm forward, posses good pace, solid goal kicking and the ability to get up the ground has me thinking he could be a great double act with JDG down the track.
I was thinking of him too. Apparently Adelaide have been playing him down back which doesn’t suit him according to some footy journos. Couldn’t get a game when Lynch, Gibbs and Jenkins were out. I’d still ask the question to see his interest.

What’s Jared Brander’s deal at WCE? Hasn’t played much and Oscar Allen seems preferred at the moment.
 

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Thatsmyname

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Surely we’d be asking for more?
Grundy for O'Brien, and pick 1 on traded to GWS for Cameron would be a very nice outcome, you'd have a ruck and a key forward and circumvent Geelong's plans for Jezza when he becomes a free agent, but it's more likely we are the Victorian club reportedly about to offer Lukosius a godfather offer

If Beams is retiring spend his money on Langdon's brother, and Aiden Bonar looking to come home too would be cheap for his athleticism and power

Sen:
Crisp Roughead Langdon
Maynard Moore Quaynor

O'Brien Pendlebury Adams
Treloar Sidebottom Beams/Langdon

Mihocek Howe Stephenson
De Goey Lukosius Elliott

Int:
Aish WHE Brown Phillips


Emer:
Sier Bonar Scharenberg Cox
 
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Chrispiesssss

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The issue with us trading this year is that most of our players with value are contracted except Sier. Moore, Grundy, De Goey contracted.

I actually don’t think we have that many players not signed up for next year.

The ones who aren’t contracted have little or no value. Goldsack, Wells, Reid, Wills etc.

We also don’t have our first round pick.

So realistically, we have to trade out a contracted player to get any sort of player/pick in return.

Ideally, we should look at trading out one of our plethora of midfielders or half-backs.

I would absolutely love Fogarty. He was my pick instead of Stephenson. I’ll admit I was wrong, however Fogarty still could turn into a nice KPP.

Everyone will disagree about which midfielders should be traded out, but I believe we need to think like Hawthorn would. Be ruthless. Think about what’s best for the club in the long run.
 
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Thatsmyname

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The issue with us trading this year is that most of our players with value are contracted except Sier. Moore, Grundy, De Goey.

I actually don’t think we have that many players not signed up for next year.

The ones who aren’t contracted have little or no value. Goldsack, Wells, Reid, Wills etc.

We also don’t have our first round pick.

So realistically, we have to trade out a contracted player to get any sort of player/pick in return.

Ideally, we should look at trading out one of our plethora of midfielders or half-backs.

I would absolutely love Fogarty. He was my pick instead of Stephenson. I’ll admit I was wrong, however Fogarty still could turn into a nice KPP.

Everyone will disagree about which midfielders should be traded out, but I believe we need to think like Hawthorn would. Be ruthless. Think about what’s best for the club in the long run.
Only Pendlebury and Sidebottom fit that criteria, Beams may retire but that only loosens up some cash

Realistically Grundy is the only one you would do if he had told you he's going back and you figure you can get more for him by going early
 

Chrispiesssss

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Got this from the Contract Status thread. Next year would have been the perfect time to chase a Free Agent( I.e. Cameron), however, we will probably spend all our money to keep De Goey, Grundy & Moore.

There’s not many players out of contract next year that we will be trying to get rid off. Mayne, Roughead, Aish(?), Appleby(?).
 

jackcass

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Agree. But he'll be lucky to get an extension if he doesn't start to build soon.
I'm not so sure. We'll keep one or two of the Reid, Greenwood, Varcoe, Crocker, Broomhead, Wills, Madgen et al cohort. They're cheap depth. Just who will be very interesting.
 

loki04

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The issue with us trading this year is that most of our players with value are contracted except Sier. Moore, Grundy, De Goey contracted.

I actually don’t think we have that many players not signed up for next year.

The ones who aren’t contracted have little or no value. Goldsack, Wells, Reid, Wills etc.

We also don’t have our first round pick.

So realistically, we have to trade out a contracted player to get any sort of player/pick in return.

Ideally, we should look at trading out one of our plethora of midfielders or half-backs.

I would absolutely love Fogarty. He was my pick instead of Stephenson. I’ll admit I was wrong, however Fogarty still could turn into a nice KPP.

Everyone will disagree about which midfielders should be traded out, but I believe we need to think like Hawthorn would. Be ruthless. Think about what’s best for the club in the long run.
Fogarty would be getting games with us, unlike the crows we don't have more KPP then you can poke a stick at. They wont let him go though as he is highly rated there for the long term.

Taller players tend to come on later then mid sized and smaller.
 

peter9789

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How much longer can we hold Broomhead, really? 6 years 36 games, it’s time to move on.

This whole keep him because of Grundy is getting a little bit ridiculous too, imo.
uhm cough.... cough... Broomhead is in his 7th year on the list. Drafted in 2012.

Has to be gone. Never going to make it.
 

peter9789

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The issue with us trading this year is that most of our players with value are contracted except Sier. Moore, Grundy, De Goey contracted.

I actually don’t think we have that many players not signed up for next year.

The ones who aren’t contracted have little or no value. Goldsack, Wells, Reid, Wills etc.

We also don’t have our first round pick.

So realistically, we have to trade out a contracted player to get any sort of player/pick in return.

Ideally, we should look at trading out one of our plethora of midfielders or half-backs.

I would absolutely love Fogarty. He was my pick instead of Stephenson. I’ll admit I was wrong, however Fogarty still could turn into a nice KPP.

Everyone will disagree about which midfielders should be traded out, but I believe we need to think like Hawthorn would. Be ruthless. Think about what’s best for the club in the long run.
Would you trade Sier for Fogarty? Is that an equitable deal? I'm also a fan of Fogarty but not sure Crows would jump at this deal. We dont have much else that we could throw on the table
 

sr36

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I'm not so sure. We'll keep one or two of the Reid, Greenwood, Varcoe, Crocker, Broomhead, Wills, Madgen et al cohort. They're cheap depth. Just who will be very interesting.
Barring anything significant occuring regarding these guys, this is the order that I think they'll be kept:
Greenwood
Varcoe
Reid
Madgen
Crocker
Broomhead
Wills
 

Chrispiesssss

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Would you trade Sier for Fogarty? Is that an equitable deal? I'm also a fan of Fogarty but not sure Crows would jump at this deal. We dont have much else that we could throw on the table
Hmmmm tough one. I wouldn’t, not yet. Sier can become a top 3 inside midfielder if he wanted to. However, needs to lift his rate this year.

Personally don’t see Fogarty leaving just yet. He did a Wingard and asked to play in Adelaide. He might also do another Wingard later in his career and come to Melbourne.

I think give him one more year in the reserves and he’s gonna be hitting the trade button.

Also doesn’t help that Fogarty is contracted till 2021.
 

Apex36

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What would Darcy Fogarty cost from the Crows? Drafted at 12 year before last but hasn't played a game this season and with rumblings that a couple of Crows players may be disgruntled at the club I wouldn't mind us seeing if we could lure him here.

I was big fan of him in his draft year, 192/193cm forward, posses good pace, solid goal kicking and the ability to get up the ground has me thinking he could be a great double act with JDG down the track.
Not sure what’s happened to him. I was a big fan in his draft year, and really liked the look of him early last year at the Crows, but he’s dropped completely off the radar. I’m not sure about him being a double act with JDG, but I could certainly see him being a Jordy replacement if we wanted to push him in to the midfield.
 
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