List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2020

[35Daicos]

When was this game on?

Looks like August 11 last year: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/27383231/afl-draft-wrap-bergman-marking-prowess-the-rise

Recruiters split on quality of 2020 draft, big calls loom

For the first time in eight years, no bottom-aged player made the NAB AFL U18 All Australian team

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[Chrispiesssss]

If* Beams retires, I seriously hope we chase a Mature KPF. Don’t think we can win a premiership with Cox, Cameron or Wilson has our main KPF.

We rarely invest in quality KPFs.

 

[Seedsfan]

Do find it odd that when Kurt Tippet retired Sydney had to keep his wage in the salary cap yet Rance retires and Richmond get the space in the cap freed up

 

[manicpie]

If* Beams retires, I seriously hope we chase a Mature KPF. Don’t think we can win a premiership with Cox, Cameron or Wilson has our main KPF.

We rarely invest in quality KPFs.

I agree, but where is this KPF going to come from?

 

[Anzacday]

Do find it odd that when Kurt Tippet retired Sydney had to keep his wage in the salary cap yet Rance retires and Richmond get the space in the cap freed up

Tippett was a free agent.
sideswipe can fill you in if you like.

 

[Seedsfan]

Tippett was a free agent.
sideswipe can fill you in if you like.

Same deal but. The system is unfair if the Swans get punished and Richmond doesn’t. Both signed players on long big money contracts to out bid other clubs.

 

[sideswipe]

Tippett was a free agent.
sideswipe can fill you in if you like.

Sorry Anzacday I don't think Tippett was a free agent. Seedsfan the Tippett and Rance situations are completely different. Tippett couldn't play on and came to an agreement with the club regarding a retirement payout when he had about three years to run on a contract. However, due to salary cap pressure, the Swans had to spread his payment out over an extra season. That's why they re-drafted him. Items like retirement payouts to players go to the cap in the last year the player is on the list, hence the re-draft.

Rance is completely different. As I understand, he is still on their list but they would have only been obligated to pay him the minimum for this footy year - $110k - which they were probably already at by the time he retired. The rest of whatever Rance was contracted on that he reportedly gave up, is the extra the Tigers have to play with. Whilst he is still on the list now (and am guessing they keep him on in case there is a change of heart even if it is until October), with AFL signoff, they could alternatively de-list him and free up a spot.

Key thing to note that in both situations, what was paid to the players goes to the cap. No unfairness.

 

[adammania9]

If Beams and Langdon were to retire and the list management team successfully agree to payouts to the two, the upside is that we may have some salary space to go shopping with.

 

[Seedsfan]

Sorry Anzacday I don't think Tippett was a free agent. Seedsfan the Tippett and Rance situations are completely different. Tippett couldn't play on and came to an agreement with the club regarding a retirement payout when he had about three years to run on a contract. However, due to salary cap pressure, the Swans had to spread his payment out over an extra season. That's why they re-drafted him. Items like retirement payouts to players go to the cap in the last year the player is on the list, hence the re-draft.

Rance is completely different. As I understand, he is still on their list but they would have only been obligated to pay him the minimum for this footy year - $110k - which they were probably already at by the time he retired. The rest of whatever Rance was contracted on that he reportedly gave up, is the extra the Tigers have to play with. Whilst he is still on the list now (and am guessing they keep him on in case there is a change of heart even if it is until October), with AFL signoff, they could alternatively de-list him and free up a spot.

Key thing to note that in both situations, what was paid to the players goes to the cap. No unfairness.

Look I am fine with it as long as we get out of Beams and Langdon’s contracts if they retire

 

[Anzacday]

Sorry @Anzacday I don't think Tippett was a free agent.

Correct again.
He was in fact an uncontracted player - my mistake.

 

[soreplums]

If Beams and Langdon were to retire and the list management team successfully agree to payouts to the two, the upside is that we may have some salary space to go shopping with.

Dreaming of J. Cameron

 

[Kappa]

If Beams and Langdon were to retire and the list management team successfully agree to payouts to the two, the upside is that we may have some salary space to go shopping with.

If by shopping with you mean give it all to De Goey and Moore

 

[Go Woods]

Apparently we can put Beams on the inactive list and replace with a SPP selection before March 12. Or wait for the mid season draft

Make it happen Pies.

 

[Go Woods]

Vic Metro vs. QLD
Collingwood Next-Generation Academy midfielder Reef McInnes impressed for Vic Metro. McInnes won the ball through the midfield, looked capable in defence and when pushing forward as a marking option. He demonstrated composure with ball in hand, agility, quick and clean hands, won the contested ball and was clean taking it off the bounce.

The 191cm ball-winner managed 24 disposals, 10 contested possessions, 10 tackles and six clearances.

Pendles successor.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Operation Get Petracca

 

[Kappa]

Operation Get Petracca

Just once I'd love for operation get a KPP instead of another bloody aggressive midfielder..

Imagine what Jeremy Cameron would do to our forward line, or Williams rebounding from defence

 

[unplugged]

Operation Get Petracca

Just the annual "Petracca is going to have a big year" preseason moment probably.

 

[Quicky]

I really hope we positioned ourselves to get the deals done with Moore, De Goey and Grundy with the expectation that Beams and Langdon (if his knee issue is as bad as appears) would be in the cap too. It would mean we have opportunities to chase someone in trade. We still have a desperate need for a key forward.

 

[unplugged]

Should sign Tom Hawkins for a year or two just for shits and giggles.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

One thing for sure. If we have a bad season like miss the eight, get ready for a mass exodus of veterans & fringe players & $$$$$$ cap space

Under the gun

Reid
Mayne
Varcoe
Dunn
Greenwood
Broomhead
Beams
Thomas
Scharenberg
Madgen
Appleby
Wills
Sier
Cox



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Even if we have a good season we still wont see a lot of them next year.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

If the likes of Sier, Wills & T.Brown don’t step up this year, I would like us to
chase Jackson Hately.

190cm, Big bodied midfielder. He will struggle to get an opportunity with the depth of GWS midfield.

He could be the ideal replacement for Pendles while we wait for Reef to develop.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If the likes of Sier, Wills & T.Brown don’t step up this year, I would like us to
chase Jackson Hately.

190cm, Big bodied midfielder. He will struggle to get an opportunity with the depth of GWS midfield.

He could be the ideal replacement for Pendles while we wait for Reef to develop.

I don’t think we need any more big bodied mids.

Wills clearly stepped up last year. His upside from here may be limited but even if he manages to continue the form from last season he’ll be an asset.

Sier by all accounts is having a solid offseason. His glimpse of quality shown in 2018 is enough for us to persist as long as the attitude remains good. Injury as well as alleged poor attitude ruined his 2019 but he’s too good a talent not to persist with.

Brown has time on his side and has shown steady improvement in the VFL.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I don’t think we need any more big bodied mids.

Wills clearly stepped up last year. His upside from here may be limited but even if he manages to continue the form from last season he’ll be an asset.

Sier by all accounts is having a solid offseason. His glimpse of quality shown in 2018 is enough for us to persist as long as the attitude remains good. Injury as well as alleged poor attitude ruined his 2019 but he’s too good a talent not to persist with.

Brown has time on his side and has shown steady improvement in the VFL.

We have an Academy kid (Next Gen) coming this year who is a big bodied mid

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

We have an Academy kid (Next Gen) coming this year who is a big bodied mid

Yep that was mentioned in the post I was replying to. I left him off due to lack of knowledge about the kids but hopefully he’s another reason we don’t need another big bodied mid.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I don’t think we need any more big bodied mids.

Wills clearly stepped up last year. His upside from here may be limited but even if he manages to continue the form from last season he’ll be an asset.

Sier by all accounts is having a solid offseason. His glimpse of quality shown in 2018 is enough for us to persist as long as the attitude remains good. Injury as well as alleged poor attitude ruined his 2019 but he’s too good a talent not to persist with.

Brown has time on his side and has shown steady improvement in the VFL.

Too many ifs and buts with Sier/Wills/Brown.

Wills is one-dimensional.

Sier just got concussed.

Brown is too small atm to play a contested role at AFL level.