List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency IX

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Keystone agony

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SSP is a free for all until early March.

MSD is reverse ladder order after 4, 8 and 12 rounds respectively.

If we get a soft draw in the first four rounds we could end up with the last pick in that first draft.. not sure a month of footy is really going to change that much.
reverse ladder order? that makes no sense

Surely the clubs struggling need the best talent to help them climb as quick as possible (How the ND acts)
 

Megabattimus

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SSP is a free for all until early March.

MSD is reverse ladder order after 4, 8 and 12 rounds respectively.

If we get a soft draw in the first four rounds we could end up with the last pick in that first draft.. not sure a month of footy is really going to change that much.
There's only gonna be one MSD in June next year.

reverse ladder order? that makes no sense

Surely the clubs struggling need the best talent to help them climb as quick as possible (How the ND acts)
...That's what reverse ladder order means. Team that finishes 18th gets Pick 1, team that finish 1st gets Pick 18. It would be the other way if it wasn't reverse ladder order.
 

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Cup_o_Jobe

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To clarify, don't we get two more spots on the list? One current blank and a second if Mozzie goes onto the LTI list?
 

Godzke

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I take it our interest in kyle dunkley was fake news given he isn't training with us? I don't like the idea of guilt tripping Josh Dunkley by saying we're looking at his brother when we never really were.

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nonamehack

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I take it our interest in kyle dunkley was fake news given he isn't training with us? I don't like the idea of guilt tripping Josh Dunkley by saying we're looking at his brother when we never really were.

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Why wouldn't we just sign him to our VFL team? And then if he actually performs well you take him MSD if he will fill a need.

Then you can have 3 months of training before you have to make any decision on him and not based on a preseason where we know he'd likely be trying to perform out of his skin so we SSP him before March
 

Godzke

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Why wouldn't we just sign him to our VFL team? And then if he actually performs well you take him MSD if he will fill a need.

Then you can have 3 months of training before you have to make any decision on him and not based on a preseason where we know he'd likely be trying to perform out of his skin so we SSP him before March
And if that was intended from the start then that's fine, but I got the impression we marketed an afl spot for Kyle if Josh signed with us. I could be wrong. But if I'm not and that's how it was advertised to Josh then that's poor form by essendon.

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rusman

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And if that was intended from the start then that's fine, but I got the impression we marketed an afl spot for Kyle if Josh signed with us. I could be wrong. But if I'm not and that's how it was advertised to Josh then that's poor form by essendon.

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so it’s poor form by Essendon to potentially have a hypothetical conversation which may or may not have upset josh or Kyle.

🤔...... it doesn’t take much for some
 

BrunoV

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I take it our interest in kyle dunkley was fake news given he isn't training with us? I don't like the idea of guilt tripping Josh Dunkley by saying we're looking at his brother when we never really were.

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I don't think it was as fake as it was manipulative/creative/opportunistic.

It's pretty embarrassing for Kyle and I don't like it either. Certainly not the public element.
 
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JayJ20

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Why wouldn't we just sign him to our VFL team? And then if he actually performs well you take him MSD if he will fill a need.

Then you can have 3 months of training before you have to make any decision on him and not based on a preseason where we know he'd likely be trying to perform out of his skin so we SSP him before March
If they promised to take him, then it's not a great look to be going back on their word. One SSP selection isn't going to hurt for a player we could use.
 

JT_the_Man

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Reckon it's better to gauge the talents of the 19 year olds under match conditions, rather than in simulated conditions.
Why not both?

There is nothing stopping us from taking a look at a couple of kids, choosing to pass on them for the time being, then taking them mid season if they perform.
 

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eth-dog

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I take it our interest in kyle dunkley was fake news given he isn't training with us? I don't like the idea of guilt tripping Josh Dunkley by saying we're looking at his brother when we never really were.

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We don't have anyone training with us outside of the 43 players on the list as far as I'm aware. It could be that he and a few others will join after Christmas and they'll decide between then and the season starting as to whom gets a spot on the list
 

boncer34

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We don't have anyone training with us outside of the 43 players on the list as far as I'm aware. It could be that he and a few others will join after Christmas and they'll decide between then and the season starting as to whom gets a spot on the list
Are we allowed to have outsiders train?
 

eth-dog

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Are we allowed to have outsiders train?
I believe so, but I think there were maybe 4 or 5 sessions between the draft and the players time off over Christmas. Usually it's closer to 10, so maybe they just decided to let the guys they invited (whether or not Dunkley was part of it) to pick up after Christmas. But that's just speculation, I don't think I've seen anything to suggest we have any players joining in training
 

Megabattimus

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Definitely think we should take Kyle Dunkley now.
 

eth-dog

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I’d hope we pick up and develop kids rather than recycle mature guys like Potters.


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I assume you mean Pittard?

For me it depends who the mature aged guy is. If it's someone between 21 and 25 and couldn't develop in the AFL for their old side for whatever reason, I'd go after them. I also wouldn't mind getting someone in that age bracket that's a ruckman, whether that be Oliver Eastland, Daniel Fahey-Sparks or whomever.
 

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