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Its Sam McClure puffing up rubbish to back up his stance that there is some sort of Sydney subterfuge happening to get Joe.
When Tom Harley said it was purely a catcj up with an old mentee? Nah nah Sydney never tell anyone anything
Woosha? What would he know!
Joe himself saying he is committed to Essendon? He hasnt signed on yet! He is only saying that cause he is not OOC till next year!!!!
Its all one big conspiracy if you ask Sam...
I take it you didn't see his appearance on On the Mark on Fox a couple of weeks ago.Personally i think there actually is something in Sam McClures opinion here. I love Joe and definately want him to stay at the club, but the reality is having a marketable key forward is a core part of Sydneys business strategy. It has been for a very long time - think Lockett, Hall, Tippet, Buddy to name a few that were brought over both for marketing appeal and playing ability. Sydney be starting to think about a buddy replacement and would definitely have Joe's name down as part of that.
This is an external opinion but putting myself in Joe's shoes i would 1. have questions over how his body and injuries have been managed by the club and 2. know that i could get a big time long term contract if i was to move to Sydney (would command a contract like what Buddy is currently on). This would give him stability, financial incentive and a club that has a proven track record with players recruited from other clubs.
I obviously have no inside information (and Sam probably doesnt either) but from an outside looking in there is something there and to be honest if he is strongly considering it then we need to consider it this year while he has more trade value.
Just my thoughts
I take it you didn't see his appearance on On the Mark on Fox a couple of weeks ago.
He's not going anywhere.
Yeah but we're not sitting here saying all our players are committed we're talking about one of them. Joe.I did see it, i still maintain the perspective that there is something there. There have been many players who have pledged their loyalty and then left. I am not saying he has made up his mind and is definately leaving but what i am saying is that he would be silly to not consider it. We can sit here and say all of our players are 100% committed and will never leave or we can debate whether there would actually be a case for him leaving.
All i am saying is that there is a clear reason for him to explore that option.
Yeah but we're not sitting here saying all our players are committed we're talking about one of them. Joe.
You must think he's a ******* good actor if you saw that appearance and still think there's 'something there'.
I thought we were debating? No need to be so dismissive. If you want to throw out trade hypotheticals involving Joe leaving go right ahead. This is the thread for it.Look im not really here to argue more to debate. Ill maintain my stance and you maintain yours. good talk
I thought we were debating? No need to be so dismissive. If you want to throw out trade hypotheticals involving Joe leaving go right ahead. This is the thread for it.
I'm more curious about the fact that you seem to think it could actually happen and that there is 'something' to Grogan Mcclure's clickbaitery despite Joe emphatically stating the contrary very recently. That's all.
For everyone one of the ones that go there are a dozen who stay. People only remember the ones that don't.Dylan Shiel and beams could not have been more emphatic about staying. So why believe anything these days?
I don't recall Shiel being emphatic about staying? Did you see Joe on On the Mark? Was he ever that emphatic? And Beams? I doubt Beams has anywhere near the same strength of character as Joe.Dylan Shiel and beams could not have been more emphatic about staying. So why believe anything these days?
For everyone one of the ones that go there are a dozen who stay. People only remember the ones that don't.
I certainly didn't but I didn't want to go off half cocked either because I don't recall for sure if he ever said he was staying at all let alone how emphatic it was..I’m sorry, did anyone ever consider the possibility that Shiel would stay this time last year? I know I didn’t
I don't recall Shiel being emphatic about staying? Did you see Joe on On the Mark? Was he ever that emphatic? And Beams? I doubt Beams has anywhere near the same strength of character as Joe.
Hi SamPersonally i think there actually is something in Sam McClures opinion here. I love Joe and definately want him to stay at the club, but the reality is having a marketable key forward is a core part of Sydneys business strategy. It has been for a very long time - think Lockett, Hall, Tippet, Buddy to name a few that were brought over both for marketing appeal and playing ability. Sydney be starting to think about a buddy replacement and would definitely have Joe's name down as part of that.
This is an external opinion but putting myself in Joe's shoes i would 1. have questions over how his body and injuries have been managed by the club and 2. know that i could get a big time long term contract if i was to move to Sydney (would command a contract like what Buddy is currently on). This would give him stability, financial incentive and a club that has a proven track record with players recruited from other clubs.
I obviously have no inside information (and Sam probably doesnt either) but from an outside looking in there is something there and to be honest if he is strongly considering it then we need to consider it this year while he has more trade value.
Just my thoughts
I thought we were debating? No need to be so dismissive. If you want to throw out trade hypotheticals involving Joe leaving go right ahead. This is the thread for it.
I'm more curious about the fact that you seem to think it could actually happen and that there is 'something' to Grogan Mcclure's clickbaitery despite Joe emphatically stating the contrary very recently. That's all.
I thought we were debating? No need to be so dismissive. If you want to throw out trade hypotheticals involving Joe leaving go right ahead. This is the thread for it.
I'm more curious about the fact that you seem to think it could actually happen and that there is 'something' to Grogan Mcclure's clickbaitery despite Joe emphatically stating the contrary very recently. That's all.
I’m sorry, did anyone ever consider the possibility that Shiel would stay this time last year? I know I didn’t
Didn't GWS basically put Shiel up for trade because they needed to free up salary space for Kelly and Coniglio? My understanding was Shiel wasn't expecting to leave.
Nah you find the recordings. It's not like it proves anything anyway. This is about Joe not this player or that player or every other player.Find the recordings of Shiel on SEN when he was on just before Dees vs swans at MCG, I think. It was pretty emphatic when they asked would he leave and he straight down the barrel said no, he loves GWS, had no intentions of leaving.
In today's day in age nothing's emphatic these days, money talks and once that $$$ is thrown out on the table and player manages see that new Saab 900 being dangled for the wife, the player gets talked into leaving.
I'm not saying Joe wants to leave, but what else are players meant to say even if they are thinking of leaving?
Pretty well what i thought. So Shiel was being truthful when he said he saw himself playing for GWS in 2019.It was and wasn't. Initially it was but then after trading lobb and Scully they didn't have to hence they held out for 2 x first rounders.
Thank you for articulating what my brain was trying to as I scrolled. Let's deal with the knowns rather than the speculation.Nah you find the recordings. It's not like it proves anything anyway. This is about Joe not this player or that player or every other player.
Like I said if people want to believe Joe is a massive liar that's their choice and if people want to discuss hypothetical trades go for it but please don't pretend it's on the basis of some well documented clickbaiter having the inside scoop.
Nah you find the recordings. It's not like it proves anything anyway. This is about Joe not this player or that player or every other player.
Like I said if people want to believe Joe is a massive liar that's their choice and if people want to discuss hypothetical trades go for it but please don't pretend it's on the basis of some well documented clickbaiter having the inside scoop.