Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VIII

[Lore]

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Spoiler: AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY KEY DATES 2020

Draft Combine
Tuesday October 1 - Friday October 4

AFL Grand Final
Saturday October 24

Free Agency Window
Friday October 30 – Friday November 6

AFL Trade Period (Players and picks)
Wednesday November 4 – 7.30pm Thursday November 12

List Lodgement 1
Wednesday November 25

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Thursday November 26 - Sunday November 29

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Monday November 30

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Monday November 30 - Tuesday December 1

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Concludes Thursday December 3

National Draft
7pm Wednesday December 9

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
12pm Thursday December 10

Final List Lodgement
Mid-December (tbc)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
Wednesday January 6, 2021 – will conclude prior to the start of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season

Spoiler: DRAFT ORDER

Any issues with it post in this thread:

Draft discussion goes here: Draft Watch

Father/Son & NGA discussion goes here: James Hird Academy (Father/Son and Next Generation)

Poll results: Who should stay? | Which key forward do you want? | What would you give up to get Josh Dunkley

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Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

?

 

[VelvetSledge]

This will be good news for our pursuit of Jye Caldwell

6

Jye Caldwell

Age

23

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.7

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.3

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.3

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.6

4star

. Yew

 

[Howard Moon]

I’ll have to get a podcast of that. Did they ask him about his kids’ careers?

yes, it was a very open interview! he said they threw my kids under the bus.. - he unloaded on cain liddle mostly.

its funny, when i hear him speak, i hear all the same mannerisims and language as dodo uses - they are either brothers in arms or its how all list managers end up being in the end

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Have we won the race for anyone that isn't retired or delisted yet?

 

[Lore]

yes, it was a very open interview! he said they threw my kids under the bus.. - he unloaded on cain liddle mostly.

its funny, when i hear him speak, i hear all the same mannerisims and language as dodo uses - they are either brothers in arms or its how all list managers end up being in the end

They’re mates, so not too surprising. I still want Essendon to get Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

for lulz.

 

[FlyingV]

I reckon sos did a pretty solid job at Carlton. They have an absolute truck load of talent on that list. Curnow, Plowman and Marchbank constantly breaking down probably worked against him, not sure that entirely his fault...

Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

and Lachy OBrien look like misses though.

 

[JayJ20]

They’re mates, so not too surprising. I still want Essendon to get Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

for lulz.

Yeah he seems to be helping us in the Saad negotiations.

Come to think of it. I wonder how Silvagni will do as a big-bodied mid.
Hmm. Wouldn't be the worst idea to try it.

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

Yeah he seems to be helping us in the Saad negotiations.

Come to think of it. I wonder how Silvagni will do as a big-bodied mid.
Hmm. Wouldn't be the worst idea to try it.

Brodie Kemp and we're done

 

[eth-dog]

Why would Carlton draft Brodie with a known ACL that was going to keep him out of this year in the first round, rehab him and then trade him a year later?

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

Why would Carlton draft Brodie with a known ACL that was going to keep him out of this year in the first round, rehab him and then trade him a year later?

To trade him for Saad a year later??????????????????????????

why would GWS draft Hately, Caldwell and OHallaron and not play them knowing they may lose them all 2 years later?

I dont know Eth? ask them?

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Why would Carlton draft Brodie with a known ACL that was going to keep him out of this year in the first round, rehab him and then trade him a year later?

While they likely won't, plans can change. Improvement in others for a role they were thinking Kemp would play can change the landscape. Maybe other trade or draft prospects look better than they think Kemp is likely to be. Maybe Kemp hasn't been as professional as they'd like in his rehab. Maybe they'd prefer to give up Kemp and a lower pick than give up pick 7. Not saying any of that has happened, I wouldn't know, but they are scenarios that might leave them open to trading him.

 

[eth-dog]

To trade him for Saad a year later??????????????????????????

why would GWS draft Hately, Caldwell and OHallaron and not play them knowing they may lose them all 2 years later?

I dont know Eth? ask them?

I'm asking you since you suggested the trade. He's contracted, highly thought of given they took him in the first round, and they just spent the last 10 months or so rehabbing him.

While they likely won't, plans can change. Improvement in others for a role they were thinking Kemp would play can change the landscape. Maybe other trade or draft prospects look better than they think Kemp is likely to be. Maybe Kemp hasn't been as professional as they'd like in his rehab. Maybe they'd prefer to give up Kemp and a lower pick than give up pick 7. Not saying any of that has happened, I wouldn't know, but they are scenarios that might leave them open to trading him.

Carlton still have a weakness on the inside which is his biggest strength according to most that have seen him play. I'd be gobsmacked if he weren't at Carlton next year.

 

[Jesse Custer]

No one of note thus far wants to come to us and i dont blame them. Personally i think we need to look inwards and develop the players we recruit. Build a us versus them mentality in the group.

 

[andleanback]

Why would Carlton draft Brodie with a known ACL that was going to keep him out of this year in the first round, rehab him and then trade him a year later?

Why would gws draft boyd pick 1 then trade him a year later, plans change.

 

[JayJ20]

Brodie Kemp and we're done

There is no way Carlton will trade Kemp. He'd be on the untouchable list.

 

[eth-dog]

Why would gws draft boyd pick 1 then trade him a year later, plans change.

Because they got way overs in a trade.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Carlton still have a weakness on the inside which is his biggest strength according to most that have seen him play. I'd be gobsmacked if he weren't at Carlton next year.

Like I said, just providing reasons on why they might do it, not saying I think it will.

 

[andleanback]

Because they got way overs in a trade.

Wouldn’t say pick 6 in a weak draft and an over the hill Ryan griffin was overs. Remember the dogs saw Boyd as the next big thing in the afl. Way overs would’ve been bont and pick 6.

 

[Kakkle]

Let's draft players who grew up watching M rated movies in carpeted basements and spent summer swimming in lakes.

No More Mr Nice Guys

 

[eth-dog]

Like I said, just providing reasons on why they might do it, not saying I think it will.

And I thought I'd provide a reason why that wouldn't be the case haha.

Wouldn’t say pick 6 in a weak draft and an over the hill Ryan griffin was overs. Remember the dogs saw Boyd as the next big thing in the afl. Way overs would’ve been bont and pick 6.

Ryan Griffen

Ryan Griffen

Age

37

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.1

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.2

3star

at the time was a better player than Boyd by himself, let alone pick 6 on top of it. It was well and truly overs. Credit to the Dogs, it did pay off, but the trade was still overs.

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

I'm asking you since you suggested the trade. He's contracted, highly thought of given they took him in the first round, and they just spent the last 10 months or so rehabbing him.

Carlton still have a weakness on the inside which is his biggest strength according to most that have seen him play. I'd be gobsmacked if he weren't at Carlton next year.

Have you ever heard of tongue in cheek?

Anyway, has a top 20 draft pick never been traded the following year if the club felt like they were getting something better to help them go to next level?

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

And I thought I'd provide a reason why that wouldn't be the case haha.

Fair enough but you don't really need to tell me, I can't see it happening.

 

[Milanista28]

Hope Crouch gets band 1 so we can make a play for pick 2 and select McDonald.

 

[andleanback]

And I thought I'd provide a reason why that wouldn't be the case haha.

Ryan Griffen

Ryan Griffen

Age

37

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.1

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.2

3star

at the time was a better player than Boyd by himself, let alone pick 6 on top of it. It was well and truly overs. Credit to the Dogs, it did pay off, but the trade was still overs.

Griffen might have been a better player at the time, but it wasn’t like he was a top 30 player in the comp, he was coming off an average season. With Boyd they would’ve been predicting, it’d be like saints trading Max King

12

Max King

Age

23

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

this year to Sydney for parker and pick 6.

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

Hope Crouch gets band 1 so we can make a play for pick 2 and select McDonald.

I hope they dont in a way because then we'd over pay for it.

 

[Milanista28]

I hope they dont in a way because then we'd over pay for it.

Depends how good this Mcdonald is and how much the club rates him, if the club think he could be a 500+ goal kicker at AFL level you go for it.