Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VIII

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Spoiler: AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY KEY DATES 2020

Draft Combine
Tuesday October 1 - Friday October 4

AFL Grand Final
Saturday October 24

Free Agency Window
Friday October 30 – Friday November 6

AFL Trade Period (Players and picks)
Wednesday November 4 – 7.30pm Thursday November 12

List Lodgement 1
Wednesday November 25

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Thursday November 26 - Sunday November 29

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Monday November 30

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Monday November 30 - Tuesday December 1

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Concludes Thursday December 3

National Draft
7pm Wednesday December 9

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
12pm Thursday December 10

Final List Lodgement
Mid-December (tbc)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
Wednesday January 6, 2021 – will conclude prior to the start of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season

Spoiler: DRAFT ORDER

Any issues with it post in this thread:

Draft discussion goes here: Draft Watch

Father/Son & NGA discussion goes here: James Hird Academy (Father/Son and Next Generation)

Poll results: Who should stay? | Which key forward do you want? | What would you give up to get Josh Dunkley

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Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

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[Tang]

Parish is definitely not an A-Grader (yet).

Hes saying that we should get an A grader with those names in bold mate

 

[Fridge16]

1 more mid? How do you square that against the pounding our best midfield copped this year?

Coaching and mindset mostly. One A-grader and a competitive ruckman for the whole season will make an enormous difference.

 

[Fridge16]

Parish is definitely not an A-Grader (yet).

Yeah I mean that would be who we bring in, not suggesting the bolded are A-graders. Replace the word A-Grader with the name Cripps, Taranto, Kelly, Fyfe or whoever you want.

 

[MiguelM]

No way would I trade Parish.

Langford not going anywhere IMO.

I would be surprised if either come up in talks. Why invest years just to trade out. They are finally coming on.

If Daniher, Saad & Fantasia leave we should be able to improve our midfield.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Yeah I mean that would be who we bring in, not suggesting the bolded are A-graders. Replace the word A-Grader with the name Cripps, Taranto, Kelly, Fyfe or whoever you want.

Ahh gotcha, in which case there’s no way we should be trading McGrath.

 

[jd_the_viking]

Can’t we just give them Joe for Pick 3?

Love your optimism, but I don’t think Sydney would part with 3 for Daniher. I’d love that result though.

Love speculating.


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[Zach Package]

Can anyone tell me what happened to our second round pick this year? What was the deal?

Chopped it up for parts essentially.

Great trade IMO, allowed us to obviously grab Jones who we really wanted, also gave us the ammo to do the deals for Phillips and Cutler, get Cahill in and also strengthened our points hand this year with the NGA kids. If not they’re not bad picks in their own right.

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Can’t we just give them Joe for Pick 3?

I like the idea but I think they may hold onto it (good chance to get a key position player they need with that pick). Because they will go into points deficit with 2x first round academy players this year they may offer up next years first??

 

[60sbomber]

Why is anyone talking about what we might get in a trade for Daniher?
No club will take seriously a threat to match their bid. Not when he would be wanting to leave for a 2nd consecutive year. And not when they know that we know that we can get a compo pick 7 (before possible Adel compo & NGA bids) by not matching.
Talk of getting a player and a first rounder is just dreaming.

 

[owen87]

Why is anyone talking about what we might get in a trade for Daniher?
No club will take seriously a threat to match their bid. Not when he would be wanting to leave for a 2nd consecutive year. And not when they know that we know that we can get a compo pick 7 (before possible Adel compo & NGA bids) by not matching.
Talk of getting a player and a first rounder is just dreaming.

The issue would be if they were offering a contract that only got a Band 2 (end of first round) selection, or worse, and EFC felt they’d do better at the trade table.

Likely given we’ve already got a 4 year offer on the table, the offer is sufficient for at least band 2 (approximately pick 20) compensation if not band 1 (pick 7). Which means depending what he’s offered and where he decides to go, we might discuss a trade if the contract he’s offered isn’t big enough for us to get decent RFA compensation.

 

[BALAM]

If will Phillips is there at our pick, watch us take him. To be honest I wouldn’t be against it, if we find a taller mid during trade week.

PHILLIPS would be the goods!

 

[60sbomber]

There are a number of young mids drafted in recent years who could be available for a 2nd rounder or less. I hear names like Brodie, O'Halloran, Caldwell, Blakely, Constable, Robertson - I have no idea how good they are or how gettable they are.
But as a principle, you have a much better chance of success when picking someone who has had a year or two in the system rather than taking a punt on an 18yo draft pick. There has been mixed success recently with these types, most of whom have come from the GWS surplus of high drafted mids (Kennedy, Setterfield, Steele, Ahern). But if we could get one or more of these types, assuming we rate them, it might be a better way to go.

 

[ghostdog]

I've see people mention Riley Collier-Dawkins. Is he not getting games at Tigers? ...and how gettable is he?

 

[EnolaGay]

I've see people mention Riley Collier-Dawkins. Is he not getting games at Tigers? ...and how gettable is he?

Pretty unlikely from what Tigs posters say.

 

[Yoda_]

There are a number of young mids drafted in recent years who could be available for a 2nd rounder or less. I hear names like Brodie, O'Halloran, Caldwell, Blakely, Constable, Robertson - I have no idea how good they are or how gettable they are.
But as a principle, you have a much better chance of success when picking someone who has had a year or two in the system rather than taking a punt on an 18yo draft pick. There has been mixed success recently with these types, most of whom have come from the GWS surplus of high drafted mids (Kennedy, Setterfield, Steele, Ahern). But if we could get one or more of these types, assuming we rate them, it might be a better way to go.

I actually wouldn't mind if we left a list spot open for the mid season draft next year. Although with Mozzie down already, we should have someone on the inactive list already.

In saying that, I don't mind the premise you are suggesing that we get in a somewhat developed kid rather than hit the draft. I doubt anyone is going to offer up or take token picks in such a difficult draft to select in.

 

[Fridge16]

Gold Coast declaring they are open to trading Peter Wright and Will Brodie.

If we were to lose Joe and Fantasia, keep Saad and then get those two in our structure remains solid. Then just need the coach and fitness staff to get the most out of the players.

I understand there’s some concern around our defence but I’m hopeful we get Ambrose back and the development of Ridley and Zerk-Thatcher we don’t go backwards too much with a declining Hooker and Hurley. Talia may be a stop gap for a couple of years as Zerk-Thatcher develops more.

Still hopeful we don’t have to go through 3 to 5 year “rebuild” to see some success.

 

[JayJ20]

Gold Coast putting 2MP and Brodie on the trade table. Not really keen on Brodie considering his defensive problems.

I wouldn't mind having a look at 2MP though.

 

[greysong]

I'm a hard pass on any players who can't get a game for the team who finished 14th.

 

[TheGrizz]

Would kick the tyres on Wright, particularly of Joe leaves.

Brodie is a pass though, if anecdoctes about his inability to get around the ground are true

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

I'm a hard pass on any players who can't get a game for the team who finished 14th.

Ridley couldn't get a game for us last year

 

[eth-dog]

Any interest in Jake Carlisle? Or is he too old to target? He looks like he has a good 3 years left IMO.

 

[Old Stuckup]

Any interest in Jake Carlisle? Or is he too old to target? He looks like he has a good 3 years left IMO.

Doubt we'd be interseted after everything that's happened but we went after Ryder last year so who knows.

 

[Mootsy]

What We Need!..

 

[eth-dog]

Doubt we'd be interseted after everything that's happened but we went after Ryder last year so who knows.

I mean apart from that famous quote he hardly did us dirty. Kept an open mind about going to Hawthorne so that St. Kilda had to pay full price. He still played with a lot of the playing group (Langford, Daniher*, Merrett, Gleeson, Zaka, Raz*, Laverde*, Hurley, Heppell, Hooker, Ambrose, Walla**) and he fills a need for a few years as that 6'6" key defender that can actually move.

*Pending whether they stay or go
**Might have played a few games in the VFL with him? Probably not

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Any interest in Jake Carlisle? Or is he too old to target? He looks like he has a good 3 years left IMO.

This ******g clu...err...player. He can nick right off. Reckon his back worse than he makes out