Trade hypotheticals

[LukeParkerno1]

The McEvoy trade worked out remarkably well for us and we only had two afl standard ruckman on our list at the time. Sometimes you have to think outside of the box. Got rid of McEvoy and dal and brought in Dunstan, acres, savage, longer and delany.

We are not a bottom 4 side big difference. You don't trade out quality players when you are trying to play finals especially in an area we don't have backups

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Nice.

What about Tigers pick 7 for TBC? Maric is turning 29, Hampson is a dud and Vickery not up to it.

No thanks. As I said worth more to us plus we would get more from say GWS if we wanted to trade (higher pick or Jacksh, etc)

 

[Punchy Demons]

If you guys get a first rounder for Frawley the bulldogs need to storm AFL house and demand compo for Ward........ Harbrow both better than that (spud)

Ha ha ha ha ha.

You are a narrow minded fool. Frawley is an all Australian and excluding the early parts of this year has played on the big fwds & more than held his own.

Do I need to remind you that Harbrow is an unaccountable half back flanker.

Gee I can't imagine who is the more valuable player!

 

[Hayes4PM]

FWIW I would rather have Frawley than Harbrow.

 

[L_W_P]

Ok guys, garage sale down at crowland.

What would people give up for players like:


Johnston

4th rounder.

 

[Jeremias]

FWIW I would rather have Frawley than Harbrow.

I think you'll find those who argue to the contrary would be in a very small minority.

 

[Zach Package]

You really are hard to deal with Adrian.

we'd want a quasi capable ruck man in return, or at least have traded for a back up before making that move, if we were ever gonna make it.

I wouldn't do it anyway, but as it stands, we've got Ryder, then we've got Bellchambers, then we've got blokes that are ruck height, but can't do the job consistently, and then we've got absolutely nothing. Wouldn't consider trading bellchambers until that changes.

 

[aussierulesrules]

It'll be very interesting to see if St Kilda do manage to get that extra pick inside the top 20. They have made their intentions very clear and we know they aren't afraid to get aggressive, so I'd say there is every chance that they will pull something quite unexpected.

I think there are two ways they can go about getting that extra top 20 pick:

1) Trade a top player in a direct swap; or
2) Upgrade a later pick to better pick by adding a player

Given their list at the moment, there aren't too many players who would get a top 20 pick in return as a straight swap. A quick browse suggests to me that Stevens, Billings, Acres, Dunstan and possibly Armitage would be the only ones. How many of them would St Kilda be willing to part with? Not many, if any. Armitage may well be the only one.

I dare say their best bet would be the 2nd option whereby they package their 2nd or 3rd pick with a player to get that higher pick.

It will be very interesting indeed! While plenty of us on our board here had been floating the idea of us potentially trading McEvoy last year, it still came as a bit of a shock to most, especially those outside our club of course, when it happened.

This year Armitage is probably the one who is getting talked about a fair bit in a similar way, but if he keeps on playing like he did on the weekend (now that he looks to be back to full fitness after that long lay-off), he will probably be more chance of captaining us next year, rather than playing for someone else. There has been talk that Richmond are pretty keen on him though (given their dearth of "inside bulls" in the ideal age bracket) and Brett Anderson said the other day that his manager was shopping him around (despite him being signed for a couple of years, IIFC).

Jack Steven another possible option if we got an offer that we just considered too good to refuse (ie. a top 5 pick, or its equivalent), but his very injury-interrupted year will probably ensure that doesn't happen.

Lenny Hayes retiring probably make us less likely to part with either of those two though. We may have been a lot more inclined to consider them had Lenny stuck around for that one more year, giving the likes of Dunstan, Ross, Saunders and Weller that extra year to get established. That said, we may look for this year's equivalent of Daniel Cross, to do the same sort of job.

What we may just do is put it out there that we are open to almost anything (which most clubs will now know is the case after last year) and wait to see if we get an offer that we think is worth taking up.

 

[Wild Bill]

we'd want a quasi capable ruck man in return, or at least have traded for a back up before making that move, if we were ever gonna make it.

I wouldn't do it anyway, but as it stands, we've got Ryder, then we've got Bellchambers, then we've got blokes that are ruck height, but can't do the job consistently, and then we've got absolutely nothing. Wouldn't consider trading bellchambers until that changes.

Will be interesting to see if you go into the draft with approx 20 and 46. It's not much to work with.

 

[Zach Package]

Will be interesting to see if you go into the draft with approx 20 and 46. It's not much to work with.

it's not, but we went in with less last year and that worked like an absolute treat

 

[markm106]

Would any clubs be looking at Montagna if saints willing to trade. Similar to Dalsanto last year could net them an early-ish pick. I know Dalsanto wasn't a trade.

 

[Wild Bill]

Would any clubs be looking at Montagna if saints willing to trade. Similar to Dalsanto last year could net them an early-ish pick. I know Dalsanto wasn't a trade.

I think a lot would - but the Saints have got rid of too many already. They need a couple of older players to support the kids. Hayes retiring makes it even more important.

 

[markm106]

I think a lot would - but the Saints have got rid of too many already. They need a couple of older players to support the kids. Hayes retiring makes it even more important.

Good point. I watched my club get rid of all the experiance and that didn't work. I think saints would need a few experianced players to help guide the youngsters.

 

[Wild Bill]

Good point. I watched my club get rid of all the experiance and that didn't work. I think saints would need a few experianced players to help guide the youngsters.

I think you did well bringing Cross - just took the heat of your kids and showed them the level of commitment to play at the top level. With Hayes going the Saints should also look at doing something similar.

 

[markm106]

I think you did well bringing Cross - just took the heat of your kids and showed them the level of commitment to play at the top level. With Hayes going the Saints should also look at doing something similar.

Cross has been great on the field and from all reports great off the field.

 

[Tragic sainter]

I think you did well bringing Cross - just took the heat of your kids and showed them the level of commitment to play at the top level. With Hayes going the Saints should also look at doing something similar.

I'd like the saints to go after ROK. I have heard his training and professionalism is first class and with Lenny going could set a great example for our youngsters next year.

 

[go you pups]

I'd like the saints to go after ROK. I have heard his training and professionalism is first class and with Lenny going could set a great example for our youngsters next year.

Yep good short term move that could be.

 

[markm106]

I'd like the saints to go after ROK. I have heard his training and professionalism is first class and with Lenny going could set a great example for our youngsters next year.

He will be 34 at start of next season. Having a good year in NEAFL but doubtful he would go on.

 

[Tragic sainter]

He will be 34 at start of next season. Having a good year in NEAFL but doubtful he would go on.

I understand that but if he did want to go on I would be happy for the saints to take him as a player/mentor, I have only ever heard fantastic things about him.

 

[markm106]

I understand that but if he did want to go on I would be happy for the saints to take him as a player/mentor, I have only ever heard fantastic things about him.

No doubt he could be a good get for a season.

 

[theflea]

He's a good player when he runs around like an unregistered dog.
When he has a direct opponent his impact is greatly diminished.

Cotchin and Martin are far better.

Well I disagree.

 

[theflea]

Nice.

What about Tigers pick 7 for TBC? Maric is turning 29, Hampson is a dud and Vickery not up to it.

No thanks.

 

[God Save Max King]

St Kilda will consider trading the first pick in the national draft if it finishes on the bottom, as the club explores all avenues available to rebuild the playing list and bring success.

‘‘If we do finish with the first selection in this year’s draft, all avenues will be explored to bring greatest benefit to the club,’’ said Pelchen, who said the current system was more difficult for a bottom team than ever before and that the club had to be ‘‘creative’’.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ir-top-pick-20140718-zuobl.html#ixzz37pC3bt4A

Would love to see what other teams think #1 is worth.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Would love to see what other teams think #1 is worth.

Basically the same as what gws asked for last year, an elite player aged between 22-25 years old, which no team will be prepared to give you.

Question is, would you be prepared to take a good player + a pick or two good players? Because the obvious reality is, nobody is going to offer you a star footballer

 

[Periphery]

Basically the same as what gws asked for last year, an elite player aged between 22-25 years old, which no team will be prepared to give you.

Question is, would you be prepared to take a good player + a pick or two good players? Because the obvious reality is, nobody is going to offer you a star footballer

I'm not sure we would be desperate for a star player and that the right picks might be enough.

If we offered GWS pick 1 for 3, 20,23 would they do that? Is 20 & 23 too much to pay for a 2 pick upgrade?

I guess it depends on how much they want the player they will take at pick 1. We could throw in our 3rd but GWS probably wont use that, and while this trade would leave them fairly short on draft picks I feel that they will probably be trading out some more fringe players that will net them some decent picks (JOR, Jaksch?).