Trade hypotheticals

[eth-dog]

Taking away all bias, I would definitely be interested in going to the dogs

 

[thetradesman]

How would you know? How can such a thing be an opinion?

You can be of the opinion that the Bulldogs aren't an attractive destination, which would be ironic, but you wouldn't have the first clue about where players want to go.

Okay I will rephrase.

The dogs aren't an attractive destination, much like the saints.

 

[dlanod]

Would that not be a breach of the rules?

He's not a free agent & isn't it only against the rules if he signs something?
Adelaide did the same with Eddie Betts @ the end of 2012 (a full year before he became a FA). Teams do it all the time.

Technically it's a breach of the rules to offer a contract with concrete terms to a player outside of the trade period.

Having said that, by all accounts there are so many loopholes where you can talk in "general" terms ("Hypothetically, would $1m a year for five years be interesting...?") that the rules are effectively useless.

 

[bloke_]

Sydney to get James Frawley to replace the aging Richards and Grundy in free agency.

Sydney to trade Mitchell to Melbourne for pick 3 and Reid to Bulldogs for pick 6 and Jetta to Freo for pick 17.

swans will get the player they want, salary cap relief, 3 first round picks to go with Isaac Heeney.

Fremantle won't trade 17 for Jetta. We have enough of that type (Hill, Pearce, Morabito, Sheridan).

 

[Lethal44]

Hawks fans, what would Sam Grimley cost? Nice and cheap?

They won't be giving him away, a late second rounder, sounds about right.

 

[Lethal44]

Every club would be looking at Lowden. He's stuck behind Hale, who may or may not retire, Ceglar & McEvoy.

Your right, but I reckon Hale will be the ruckman the Hawks put on the trade table.

 

[bloke_]

Your right, but I reckon Hale will be the ruckman the Hawks put on the trade table.

Wouldn't be worth much would he? What's he nearly 30?

 

[thetradesman]

Wouldn't be worth much would he? What's he nearly 30?

Agree here, wouldn't even get a second rounder.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Yeah, that's not true at all. Not sure where Carey pulled that from.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Fremantle won't trade 17 for Jetta. We have enough of that type (Hill, Pearce, Morabito, Sheridan).

Sydney wouldn't be getting rid of their one elite outside runner- an area they sort of need to bolster in the first place.

 

[eth-dog]

They won't be giving him away, a late second rounder, sounds about right.

Hahaha no. A late 2nd rounder for a 5th in line ruckman?

 

[SterlingArcher]

Not sure the Dogs are complete spuds. You'd be joining Libba, Bontempelli, Macrae, Stringer, Hrovat and Dahlhaus as youth, got Morris, Minson, Griffen and Crameri around for another 3 years minimum I think (+ Murphy, Boyd, Cooney around that time frame too), and guys like Wallis, Smith, Johannisen, Jones, Roughead who still have development left in them. No clubs have just out-and-out shit facilities these days. Richmond have had some pretty shitty crowds this year - you'd only be 'moving to play in front of 60k' to do it 3 times a year, not 10.

 

[Taylor]

I would think it's more about not wanting a bad coach to end your career for you by playing you out of position.

 

[dlanod]

Yeah, that's not true at all. Not sure where Carey pulled that from.

Probably the same place the "Patton's visiting Whitten Oval" rumours came from last year - various rumourmongers' desires to stay relevant.

 

[Andre the Giant]

That was an interesting capitulation by MFC on Sunday. Wonder when the "tanking" for picks innuendo starts??

Everybody knows Roosy covets early picks..he is always going on about it in the media.

From MFC's point of view finishing below GWS could be important as they will likely have consecutive picks (Frawley compo) which could give them greater bargaining power with the Giants to trade one of them back.

Despite rumours suggesting otherwise I see St Kilda taking McCartin as their need for a KPF is so strong, which leaves Petracca whom GWS apparently want.

Could remaining below GWS allow MFC the hand they need to deal The number 2 pick to get an established kid they want?? If they have picks 2 and 3 they can deal 2 to GWS for maybe Shiel and keep 3 for Wright or Durdin or possibly even Brayshaw.

They do have form here, the clash between the Giants and Demons in a fortnight could be for the Petracca Cup!!

All the more reason for the AFL to have a lottery for the first 5 picks.

 

[Punchy Demons]

That was an interesting capitulation by MFC on Sunday. Wonder when the "tanking" for picks innuendo starts??

Everybody knows Roosy covets early picks..he is always going on about it in the media.

From MFC's point of view finishing below GWS could be important as they will likely have consecutive picks (Frawley compo) which could give them greater bargaining power with the Giants to trade one of them back.

Despite rumours suggesting otherwise I see St Kilda taking McCartin as their need for a KPF is so strong, which leaves Petracca whom GWS apparently want.

Could remaining below GWS allow MFC the hand they need to deal The number 2 pick to get an established kid they want?? If they have picks 2 and 3 they can deal 2 to GWS for maybe Shiel and keep 3 for Wright or Durdin or possibly even Brayshaw.

They do have form here, the clash between the Giants and Demons in a fortnight could be for the Petracca Cup!!

All the more reason for the AFL to have a lottery for the first 5 picks.

Are you seriously questioning MFC & Roos about tanking?

Roos has been very outspoken since he arrived about winning,the need for winning games of footy & creating a winning culture.

There is no way Roos orchestrated a loss yesterday.

You say Roos coverts these low picks when history says the complete opposite.

Roos likes to trade picks, not stockpile them like others have in the past.

We lost yesterday because we didn't take our chances when we had them, either through lack of ability, mental fragility, pressure from the opposition etc etc.

It certainly wasn't because we tanked & if you seriously think that you are an uneducated fool.

 

[Geoff Heywood]

Garlett from Carlton appears certain to move with WC, Coll & Adelaide chasing him according to the local media. Fremantle don't rate him as they believe he doesn't have the defensive mindset to fit into Lyon's style.

Apparently he has a personal issue that isn't resolved with his partner so it would be very much buyer beware.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Are you seriously questioning MFC & Roos about tanking?

Roos has been very outspoken since he arrived about winning,the need for winning games of footy & creating a winning culture.

There is no way Roos orchestrated a loss yesterday.

You say Roos coverts these low picks when history says the complete opposite.

Roos likes to trade picks, not stockpile them like others have in the past.

We lost yesterday because we didn't take our chances when we had them, either through lack of ability, mental fragility, pressure from the opposition etc etc.

It certainly wasn't because we tanked & if you seriously think that you are an uneducated fool.

Don't you think an NBA draft style lottery of the bottom selections between the bottom teams would take any innuendo out of the equation??

I just think there would only be upside in doing this.

 

[Periphery]

That was an interesting capitulation by MFC on Sunday. Wonder when the "tanking" for picks innuendo starts??

Everybody knows Roosy covets early picks..he is always going on about it in the media.

From MFC's point of view finishing below GWS could be important as they will likely have consecutive picks (Frawley compo) which could give them greater bargaining power with the Giants to trade one of them back.

Despite rumours suggesting otherwise I see St Kilda taking McCartin as their need for a KPF is so strong, which leaves Petracca whom GWS apparently want.

Could remaining below GWS allow MFC the hand they need to deal The number 2 pick to get an established kid they want?? If they have picks 2 and 3 they can deal 2 to GWS for maybe Shiel and keep 3 for Wright or Durdin or possibly even Brayshaw.

They do have form here, the clash between the Giants and Demons in a fortnight could be for the Petracca Cup!!

All the more reason for the AFL to have a lottery for the first 5 picks.

And then the Saints take Petracca and laugh as you select another tall.

 

[dlanod]

Don't you think an NBA draft style lottery of the bottom selections between the bottom teams would take any innuendo out of the equation??

I just think there would only be upside in doing this.

Except the NBA is looking at changing their draft lottery precisely because it's not discouraging tanking.

 

[Punchy Demons]

Don't you think an NBA draft style lottery of the bottom selections between the bottom teams would take any innuendo out of the equation??

I just think there would only be upside in doing this.

It's been talked about for years. The AFL if they wanted could have done it a long time ago.

Creating one solution will invariably create another issue eg. 13th team dropping last couple of games to enter that bottom five team 1st pick lottery.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Yeah, that's not true at all. Not sure where Carey pulled that from.

Are you the list manager of the dogs? How would u know if a general offer wasn't informally given to Patton?
Your club would be negligent to not be tabling offers.
Did u also see Pattons amazing power to be at whitten oval and America at the same time?

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Are you the list manager of the dogs? How would u know if a general offer wasn't informally given to Patton?
Your club would be negligent to not be tabling offers.
Did u also see Pattons amazing power to be at whitten oval and America at the same time?

He'd know that such an offer wasn't made to Patton because it's completely and utterly at odds with our list management policy and with the modus operandi of everybody in charge at the club.

Of course we'd be negligent not to go down that path, but 5 years, $5 million? Get me a bucket.

 

[nickrebellious]

Hahaha no. A late 2nd rounder for a 5th in line ruckman?

He doesn't ruck anymore. He's a key forward. Might even be a chance to get delisted.

 

[eth-dog]

He doesn't ruck anymore. He's a key forward. Might even be a chance to get delisted.

And he'd be the 3rd ruck at Essendon. Maybe a token trade, Grimley for a 6th round pick?