Trade hypotheticals

[ksardog]

Pies in - Hoskin-Elliott pick 23 (GWS)
Pies out- Beams

Bris in - Beams
Bris outs - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke

GWS ins - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke
GWS outs- Hoskin-Elliott pick 23

Also exchange of 3rd round picks between pies and bris

Fair for all?

 

[Nintendo Jones]

Pies in - Hoskin-Elliott pick 23 (GWS)
Pies out- Beams

Bris in - Beams
Bris outs - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke

GWS ins - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke
GWS outs- Hoskin-Elliott pick 23

Also exchange of 3rd round picks between pies and bris

Fair for all?

Brisbane more keen to trade Luey than Clarke... but 4 and Luey for Beams and a 3rd round swap seem ok... GWS, what do you reckon?

 

[Two Planks]

GWS are not going to trade contracted gun young kids who have shown no signs of wanting to go home. Hoskin-Elliot is going nowhere.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Pies in - Hoskin-Elliott pick 23 (GWS)
Pies out- Beams

Bris in - Beams
Bris outs - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke

GWS ins - pick 4 Leunberger/Clarke
GWS outs- Hoskin-Elliott pick 23

Also exchange of 3rd round picks between pies and bris

Fair for all?

Brisbane more keen to trade Luey than Clarke... but 4 and Luey for Beams and a 3rd round swap seem ok... GWS, what do you reckon?

GWS are not going to trade contracted gun young kids who have shown no signs of wanting to go home. Hoskin-Elliot is going nowhere.

GWS have no need for Luey/no want to trade WHE.

 

[ksardog]

GWS are not going to trade contracted gun young kids who have shown no signs of wanting to go home. Hoskin-Elliot is going nowhere.

GWS want petracca, having picks 3 and 4 or 4 and 5 depending on frawley compo puts them in a strong position to get him

 

[Two Planks]

GWS want petracca, having picks 3 and 4 or 4 and pending on frawley compo puts them in a strong position to get him

They may want Petracca but not at the expense of WHE. They have pick 4 JOR Jaksch and Sumner to offer before they have to throw away potential superstars.

 

[juss]

Some spine work is needed yes, but they have to be worth that pick. THE KPP's are nowhere near as good as Petracca. If you have pick 1, 18 clubs would pick Petracca. Whenever you overpay or 'reach' for players you run a very big risk. Saints have next year and the year after to get talls. It will be a longish rebuild. They will have a top 3 pick next year, maybe a priority pick as well. You take Petracca and work from there.

If you have pick 1 and take the guy who would have gone at 2 based on needs, that's not a reach at all. A reach would be having 5 elite mids but taking the 6th rated player before them because you need a tall. Also, Petracca wasn't even the consensus number 1 pick 6 months ago. To suggest he is miles better than the rest is just wrong.

 

[aussierulesrules]

For those that reckon there is no way we would get Shiel and pick 4 for pick 1, I asked Knightmare as a matter of interest what he would be asking from GWS if he was in our place and they wanted him really badly and Shiel and pick 4 is the exact trade that he put forward as the one that he believed was perfectly do-able.

Jaksch or O'Rourke and pick 4 isn't going to get it done.

 

[eaglespremiers]

For those that reckon there is no way we would get Shiel and pick 4 for pick 1, I asked Knightmare as a matter of interest what he would be asking from GWS if he was in our place and they wanted him really badly and Shiel and pick 4 is the exact trade that he put forward as the one that he believed was perfectly do-able.

I think Shiel would cost you pick 1 alone.
In this years draft I'd happily pay that for Shiel if my team had it.

 

[dlanod]

For those that reckon there is no way we would get Shiel and pick 4 for pick 1, I asked Knightmare as a matter of interest what he would be asking from GWS if he was in our place and they wanted him really badly and Shiel and pick 4 is the exact trade that he put forward as the one that he believed was perfectly do-able.

I must have missed Knightmare's promotion to list manager at GWS.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I must have missed Knightmare's promotion to list manager at GWS.

You must have also missed the part where I said "as a matter of interest". If you're not interested, you're free to not pay any attention to it, aren't you?

 

[juss]

For those that reckon there is no way we would get Shiel and pick 4 for pick 1, I asked Knightmare as a matter of interest what he would be asking from GWS if he was in our place and they wanted him really badly and Shiel and pick 4 is the exact trade that he put forward as the one that he believed was perfectly do-able.

Jaksch or O'Rourke and pick 4 isn't going to get it done.

Well thats 2 opinions. Im sure there are many others who say that is a big win for the Saints.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Well thats 2 opinions. Im sure there are many others who say that is a big win for the Saints.

How many more times would everyone like us to say that you don't trade pick 1 unless you "win" out of it? There's a reason it's probably the only pick that hasn't been traded for 13 years.

 

[Scully2Folau]

For those that reckon there is no way we would get Shiel and pick 4 for pick 1, I asked Knightmare as a matter of interest what he would be asking from GWS if he was in our place and they wanted him really badly and Shiel and pick 4 is the exact trade that he put forward as the one that he believed was perfectly do-able.

Jaksch or O'Rourke and pick 4 isn't going to get it done.

There's a fair difference between how a mock drafter values trades/players and how a club actually holding the players and picks does...

Based on last year's Tyson trade, Shiel + 4 for 1 would have us valuing Tyson (13gms) more than we do Shiel (50gms) which simply wouldn't be the case.

 

[dlanod]

You must have also missed the part where I said "as a matter of interest". If you're not interested, you're free to not pay any attention to it, aren't you?

I don't know why you think I'm not interested. I'm very interested in why GWS would do something crazy like throw one of their top four midfielders away to move up three spots.

 

[Stylo]

I don't know why you think I'm interested. I'm very interested in why GWS would do something crazy like throw one of their top four midfielders away to move up three spots.

Shiel + 20 for 1 maybe. Saints fans are getting greedy

 

[eth-dog]

Pick 4 and 9 to Collingwood.
Pick 22 to Essendon.
Aish to Adelaide
Beams and Ryder to Brisbane

No ****ing way would Essendon do that.

 

[GROTTO]

No ******* way would Essendon do that.

Ryder could walk for nothing, if push came to shove. A few players apparently are interested in walking from Essendon now.

 

[timtamWB]

Pick 4 and Shiel for pick 1 is ridiculous. GWS getting royally screwed.

 

[Curunir]

Pick 4 and Shiel for pick 1 is ridiculous. GWS getting royally screwed.

Rumour going around is pick 4 + Shiel for 1 + 20.

 

[timtamWB]

Rumour going around is pick 4 + Shiel for 1 + 20.

Still not that great. I don't get why you would get rid of someone of the quality of Shiel for the chance of a midfielder that might be amazing.

 

[juss]

No ******* way would Essendon do that.

Essendon dont exactly hold all the cards in this one, unless they plan to keep a player against his will, or send him to the courts.

 

[Curunir]

According to AFL 360 (Gerard ) and SEN GWS are willing to do whatever it takes to get pick 1.

Always have to pay overs to get pick 1 anyway hence why it's rarely traded.

GWS apparently wanted pick 3 + Steven for pick 1 last year!

 

[Play by Numbers]

They have completely lost it on the Saints board, posters quite seriously claiming that they will receive deals like Shiel and pick 4, or Cameron and pick 4 for pick 1.

 

[Play by Numbers]

I think Shiel would cost you pick 1 alone.
In this years draft I'd happily pay that for Shiel if my team had it.

Indeed.