Trade Period Review

[Johnny Dalmas]

Hamling won a flag at the Dogs, but week-in, week-out he has been better for us than them. Until that bloody ankle.

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

Anyway, apart from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?

 

[theGav56]

Anyway, apart from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?

They gave us colloseiums to play footy in.

 

[Wray27]

They gave us colloseiums to play footy in.

Technically the Romans named them “Arenas”

 

[theGav56]

Technically the Romans named them “Arenas”

Are we discussing words?

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

Are we discussing words?

It's the off-season. We've got months of idle speculation, off-topic stuff, and -- always a highlight-- about 3 days of epic melts immediately after the draft

 

[Freomaniac]

What trades were you happy with?


1. Fremantle trade Adam Cerra to Carlton for #6 and F3

2. Gold Coast trade Will Brodie, #19, #61 & #69 to Fremantle for F2 and F4

3. Collingwood trade #22 to Fremantle for #27 and F3

4. Geelong trade Jordan Clark and F4 to Fremantle for #22 and F3 (Carl)

Here is my view....

1. I knew we would get that type of trade for Adam Cerra. I did fear Carlton were going to trade pick 6 for Brisbanes picks 15 and 18 and give us 18 and their pick 61.

2. Freo wins that trade even if we finish bottom. Will Boradie is the steak knives in that deal. Pick 18, 61 and 69 is good. trading a future 2nd and 4th seems ok at the time. Just hope freo nails picks 19, 61 and 69.

3. a wasted trade. Why trade away a future 3rd rounder to improve 5 more spots?

4. Hoping Jordan clark plays well. I would of rather trade pick 19 and kept pick 22 and Carltons future 3rd instead....

regardless where freo finishes in 2022. Like in 2018, freo has no 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder. They only got a 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th rounder


As it stands, the freo board saw where freo finished: We got 10 wins and traded a couple of late picks in 2022. We lose Cerra but got Will Broadie and Jordan Clark in the trade period.

Peter Bell has made his intentions clear: Make finals in 2022.

If we dont and freo fail miserably and finish bottom 6 again, Justin Longmuir is likely to be sacked and some older fringe players on decent coin will be gone too...

I await freos 2022 fixture.

 

[CapitalA]

4. Hoping Jordan clark plays well. I would of rather trade pick 19 and kept pick 22 and Carltons future 3rd instead....

No way, there is a good chance we trade 19 for 20/21/23 and a future 2nd during the draft via live trade.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Here is my view....

1. I knew we would get that type of trade for Adam Cerra. I did fear Carlton were going to trade pick 6 for Brisbanes picks 15 and 18 and give us 18 and their pick 61.

2. Freo wins that trade even if we finish bottom. Will Boradie is the steak knives in that deal. Pick 18, 61 and 69 is good. trading a future 2nd and 4th seems ok at the time. Just hope freo nails picks 19, 61 and 69.

3. a wasted trade. Why trade away a future 3rd rounder to improve 5 more spots?

4. Hoping Jordan clark plays well. I would of rather trade pick 19 and kept pick 22 and Carltons future 3rd instead....

regardless where freo finishes in 2022. Like in 2018, freo has no 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder. They only got a 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th rounder


As it stands, the freo board saw where freo finished: We got 10 wins and traded a couple of late picks in 2022. We lose Cerra but got Will Broadie and Jordan Clark in the trade period.

Peter Bell has made his intentions clear: Make finals in 2022.

If we dont and freo fail miserably and finish bottom 6 again, Justin Longmuir is likely to be sacked and some older fringe players on decent coin will be gone too...

I await freos 2022 fixture.

Good assessment.

I am not sure we will use pick 61 or 69, which makes them a bit of a waste.

Brodie and Clark will make or break the trade period. If I had a choice, I would have kept 22, and chase Clark next year.

 

[Freomaniac]

Questions for others, who does Clark and\or Brodie push out of the best 22?

If they are not best 22 or even best 25, why did we bring them in.


B: Logue - Cox - Ryan
HB: Young - Pearce - Walker
C: Frederick - Brayshaw - Colyer
HF: Fyfe - Treacy - Sturt
FF: Walters - Tabs - Lobb
Ruc: Darcy - Mundy - Serong

Bench: Aish- Chapman - Pick 6 - Pick 8

Emergency: Hamling, Tucker, Wilson, Schultz,

As much as I like frederick and to a lesser degree coyler, Jordan Clarke would take either players spot.

If sturt is injured again, clark can fit as a 3rd winger on a forward flank kicking 10-20 goals a season.

you dont even know who freo will get at pick 6 or 8 and you assumed they will be in the bench.

Will Broadie will take one of the 4 or 5 spot in the bench come round 1 of 2022

 

[go_the_dockers]

As much as I like frederick and to a lesser degree coyler, Jordan Clarke would take either players spot.

If sturt is injured again, clark can fit as a 3rd winger on a forward flank kicking 10-20 goals a season.

you dont even know who freo will get at pick 6 or 8 and you assumed they will be in the bench.

Will Broadie will take one of the 4 or 5 spot in the bench come round 1 of 2022

Brodie and Clark will make or break the trade period. I personally don't think either are best 22, but time will tell.

 

[Freomaniac]

Good assessment.

I am not sure we will use pick 61 or 69, which makes them a bit of a waste.

Brodie and Clark will make or break the trade period. If I had a choice, I would have kept 22, and chase Clark next year.

I dont think pick 61 or 69 are wasted picks. More like a free shot or 2.

happy to get another frederick type. Chances of freo getting another Lachie Neale is next to impossible. More likely to get another skinny fringe flanker like a sutcliffe or crozier or sheridan.

Wont be suprised if freo get a ruckman or kpf ruckman with either pick.

Yeah, I would of kept pick 22 and chase clark next season. then again, he could improve drastically next year and cats would ask for more.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I dont think pick 61 or 69 are wasted picks. More like a free shot or 2.

I don't think we have list space to take 5 picks, unless we delist someone.

If we have space on our list, then all good.

 

[rgauci]

Here is my view....

1. I knew we would get that type of trade for Adam Cerra. I did fear Carlton were going to trade pick 6 for Brisbanes picks 15 and 18 and give us 18 and their pick 61.

2. Freo wins that trade even if we finish bottom. Will Boradie is the steak knives in that deal. Pick 18, 61 and 69 is good. trading a future 2nd and 4th seems ok at the time. Just hope freo nails picks 19, 61 and 69.

3. a wasted trade. Why trade away a future 3rd rounder to improve 5 more spots?

4. Hoping Jordan clark plays well. I would of rather trade pick 19 and kept pick 22 and Carltons future 3rd instead....

regardless where freo finishes in 2022. Like in 2018, freo has no 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder. They only got a 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th rounder


As it stands, the freo board saw where freo finished: We got 10 wins and traded a couple of late picks in 2022. We lose Cerra but got Will Broadie and Jordan Clark in the trade period.

Peter Bell has made his intentions clear: Make finals in 2022.

If we dont and freo fail miserably and finish bottom 6 again, Justin Longmuir is likely to be sacked and some older fringe players on decent coin will be gone too...

I await freos 2022 fixture.

Can’t win with you, we outperformed your predictions in trade week, and now your pessimism emerges again. Out of interest, did you hate the Serong selection?

 

[Freomaniac]

Can’t win with you, we outperformed your predictions in trade week, and now your pessimism emerges again. Out of interest, did you hate the Serong selection?

No you cant win with me. Not with my tough man tony abbott tactics lol

For the record. I wasnt too fussed with the serong selection.

I did want Mitch Georgiades in the draft

 

[masai tu]

Are we discussing words?

Are you Woderwick ?.

 

[masai tu]

Brodie and Clark will make or break the trade period. I personally don't think either are best 22, but time will tell.

As it stands ( today ), they are not in our best 22, but the expectation is that they may be.

A darn long pre-season, and puttting their best foot forward, will show us who deserves the spots in the 22. Competition for spots is great.

I think a player like Colyer will hold his spot for the start of the season, and the youngster’s will have to work their butt off, before he is ousted. If you want a spot, earn it.

 

[theGav56]

As it stands ( today ), they are not in our best 22, but the expectation is that they may be.

A darn long pre-season, and puttting their best foot forward, will show us who deserves the spots in the 22. Competition for spots is great.

I think a player like Colyer will hold his spot for the start of the season, and the youngster’s will have to work their butt off, before he is ousted. If you want a spot, earn it.

If they were both to be in our best 22 our recruiters would be the stuff of legends. And it is at least plausible. My expectation is that by mid year Clark is. Brodie is much more difficult to predict until he has shown something in the pre-season. I have higher expectations of O'Driscoll who I think will compete for the same spot (not necessarily same position).

 

[Caldera]

If Clark isn’t in our best 22 I question why we gave him a 4yr contract plus burned a 2nd & 3rd pick to get him. We better not be ponying up for depth.

 

[Docker82]

If Clark isn’t in our best 22 I question why we gave him a 4yr contract plus burned a 2nd & 3rd pick to get him. We better not be ponying up for depth.

Some people seem on here seem to be determined to not rate any player traded into the club.

Yet the same people will talk up our own players who’ve never played a game or AFL footy and they’ve probably never seen play.

BigFooty at its best.

 

[Caldera]

Some people seem on here seem to be determined to not rate any player traded into the club.

Maybe I’m not being clear enough. I have made no judgement on Clark, and I’m keen to see what he brings. But our footy dept has made a big commitment to him in terms of contract and draft capital spent, so clearly they view him as best 22. If he is not, my view on the trade will be BigFooty at its finest.

 

[raffrox]

Of course Clark is best 22. That's why we traded for him. Brodie was more of a free hit though.

All you need to know about bigfooty could be explained by comparing Freo supporters assessment of the value of Rory Lobb

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Rory Lobb

Age

30

Ht

207cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

11.3

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

at mid season this year and mid last week.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Some people seem on here seem to be determined to not rate any player traded into the club.

Yet the same people will talk up our own players who’ve never played a game or AFL footy and they’ve probably never seen play.

BigFooty at its best.

Colyer, Conca, Kersten, Lobb, Acres suggest we are correct.

What has Clark done to show he is AFL quality player? I know he wants to play back, and I am not sure he is a clear best 22 in that spot.

 

[Docker82]

Colyer, Conca, Kersten, Lobb, Acres suggest we are correct.

What has Clark done to show he is AFL quality player? I know he wants to play back, and I am not sure he is a clear best 22 in that spot.

Lobb and Colyer do not prove this at all. They are solid best 22 players. Lobb has easily been worth two pick downgrades and Colyer has easily surpassed the cost of a fourth rounder.

Conca, Kersten and Acres were worth what we paid for them. Conca was worth bringing to the club, the other two not so much. You get what you pay for - every club has traded in players for **** all and most give them **** all. It isn’t a Freo thing.

Clark is easily a best 22 winger at the club. In fact he’s our best winger.

 

[SupermanCapes]

Re the Brodie trade, I'm pretty sure we offered him an additional year and have spread his $400k across the two years which softens the blow considerably. Making use of available cap space for picks is *ing genius and shows how our list management team is actively thinking outside the box.

I do worry that we're shaping up a little bit like GWS with a bucketload of young talent that will demand big $$ when we're hitting our window, but ultimately you can't be scared of having too many good players if you want some silverware.