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TheBrownDog
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One day people will wake up in the morning, fix themselves a cup of tea and then realise Billy Frampton just ain't that good.
Yes, he should've played more this year when Dixon was out. But for structural reasons. Not because he's some superstar in waiting like half this board seems to think he is.

If Frampton walks to the Crows and we DFA somebody like McBean to replace him, we're probably better off.

We played about half the season with a key forward setup of Ryder and Westhoff, which was maintained despite being obviously ineffective.

Trading out our key position depth is stupid unless we get a really good deal, and what are they even going to offer for a 3 gamer? Even if we're drafting a KPF, our only currently established key forward is Charlie Dixon, who isn't known for his durability or reliability.

We've been through this multiple times before in the modern era where we've allowed depth players to leave and then been stuck with square pegs in round holes (leaving square holes in another position, usually being filled by a much smaller peg)

It would be garbage list management to delist Billy now and leave us with only Dixon and Marshall with any AFL experience, just as it was garbage to delist Butcher and Schulz at the same time to leave us with only Dixon at the end of 2016.
Agree 100% with your larger point here, which is that we need to go into next year with some solid KPF depth. But it doesn't necessarily have to be Frampton.
 

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Smithy7

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Here We go again

Essendon is chasing Port Adelaide midfielder Sam Powell-Pepper, reports 7 News Melbourne.

Powell-Pepper, taken with Pick 18 in the 2016 draft, is contracted to the Power until the end of the 2020 season.
But there’s been ample speculation the 21-year-old has attracted interest from rival clubs and the Power would be open to trading him for the right deal.
“He is the one player I would absolutely put on the trade table and I’d make that a priority. He’s contracted, got a year to go, but he’s got some attributes that are welcome at AFL level,” Cornes told SEN SA Breakfast.
More ..

Essendon are s**t to deal with ... lets do the same .. :)
 

philthy05

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Ah crap.

If port swap spp for a 176cm small forward whose stats are comparable to Sam gray and Aaron young I’ll vomit.

There’s maybe, maybe 8-15 guys in this draft I would have on our list before spp.

Mead has far far far more question marks over his ability to become an elite afl footballer than spp does right now and half the d and t board thinks he’s a first rounder lol.
 

Powerage

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Walker, Lynch and Jenkins all nearing the end.

At Port, Billy is behind: Dixon, Marshall, Howard and resting rucks Lycett, Ladhams and the emerging Hayes.

I want to keep Billy but it is what it is.
That's misleading. We can only rest one ruck at a time assuming we go with two rucks.Dixon is nearing the end as much as any of the Crows forwards. Jonas is also nearing the end, it is likely Howard will play as a defender. His forays forward have not been encouraging so far.

Westhoff however may still be able to play as a defender for another couple of years given his form there this year which will free up someone to go forward. I favor Burton.

It is simply more a matter of our reticence to play him. He was the obvious choice at times this year due to injuries and form to Dixon and Marshall and barely got a go. If I were him I would be going elsewhere and good luck to him. He seems reticent to move interstate which is a pity as he would get a real good go in a number of Victorian teams. He is from Western Australia and I am really surprised he has not been approached by Fremantle.

Anyway, it will be interesting.
 

philthy05

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What do we realistically think we’ll get for Paddy?
I would be asking for a 2020 3rd round pick for paddy and a 4th

If they want to trade Sam gray in I would tell them to get us a 2020 2nd for both. A 3rd for both is way unders, and we’ve been far too soft with departing players for a long time.

It wouldn’t even have to be their 2nd. Any 2020 2nd they can trade in.
 

Magus

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That's misleading. We can only rest one ruck at a time assuming we go with two rucks.Dixon is nearing the end as much as any of the Crows forwards. Jonas is also nearing the end, it is likely Howard will play as a defender. His forays forward have not been encouraging so far.

Westhoff however may still be able to play as a defender for another couple of years given his form there this year which will free up someone to go forward. I favor Burton.

It is simply more a matter of our reticence to play him. He was the obvious choice at times this year due to injuries and form to Dixon and Marshall and barely got a go. If I were him I would be going elsewhere and good luck to him. He seems reticent to move interstate which is a pity as he would get a real good go in a number of Victorian teams. He is from Western Australia and I am really surprised he has not been approached by Fremantle.

Anyway, it will be interesting.
I 100% agree, I was just looking through it with the eyes of our coaches.

Billy has been underutilized massively.
 

crafty_bernardo

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Have we ever tried Billy at CHB ??
In these days of defensive intercept marks, he'd be a gun I'd have thought
He’s a good marker and has goal accuracy, but just needs to be better at leading in my opinion, which I think is mostly attributed to coaching since Dixon has the same issue. Surely it just be a directing from coaches to do so.




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Duckimus Prime

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In these days of defensive intercept marks, he'd be a gun I'd have thought
Defensive intercept marking is more about being able to read the play more than contested marking strength.

Billy, not so great at that. Just watch how many times he's led to the ball by a defender. Worked out ok against Gold Coast because he just beat his opponent in the air. Didn't work out against Hawthorn where Frawley was better. Didn't work against Otten either in the SANFL qualifying final either.
 

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