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Does anyone seriously think we’re a paddy Ryder away from winning the 2020 premiership?

As for better player

Ladhams has caught up at a crazy rate, and Ryder is going backwards

You could almost make the argument that even though Ryder is the better ruck that we would be better served by the better forward in Frampton who can also ruck.

If you’re judging Ryder on his 2019 form, and trying to imagine the form of Ryder and ladhams Frampton and Hayes 1 year from now I think calling Ryder the better player is naive.
Frampton seriously overrated potential
 
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Frampton seriously overrated potential
Would give him a run of games to find out.
It's the toughest role in a team and in 2 out of 3 try's he gone ok. The 3rd I'd be looking at what was going on down the ground before I'd blame him. Wasn't a Frampton fan until recently but want him to get a decent run now I think there's something there.
 

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I don’t actually think anyone is advocating for Gibbs to port.

Just talking about something Wallace said.
Their coach said they had too many of the same type of players so that is why Gibbs and Greenwood were dropped.
IF THAT TRUE, then I wonder if Ken will have the balls to do similar. Surely Wines and Rocky back will unbalance our midfield unless we drop Boak / SPP.
On another note, Ollie has had a lot of time to think about the standard of his footy. I am nervous about him returning but perhaps he will prove me wrong.
 

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Frampton seriously overrated potential
That’s pretty much impossible considering no one is talking Frampton up as an elite player despite the averages for his 3 afl games putting him in elite company.

Most people have simply said he can at least compete or at least be serviceable.

It’s incredibly hard to see how he is being overrated, if anything were possibly underrating his potential based on fear he might not work out and the likelihood that Hinkley will never give him a chance.

If he was drafted with pick 10 by carlton and had the afl games he just had he wouldn’t be dropped again and the media would be pretty excited about him.
 

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Their coach said they had too many of the same type of players so that is why Gibbs and Greenwood were dropped.
IF THAT TRUE, then I wonder if Ken will have the balls to do similar. Surely Wines and Rocky back will unbalance our midfield unless we drop Boak / SPP.
On another note, Ollie has had a lot of time to think about the standard of his footy. I am nervous about him returning but perhaps he will prove me wrong.
I tend to agree, probably isn’t room for all of Wines, Boak, SPP and Rocky. Especially with Houston showing he can push up into the Midfeild, Robbie playing more Midfeild and Bonner maybe pushing up into a wing.
 

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I would also like Ryder to hang around until he has played 100 AFL games for us …

why should we let Essendon get any father /son benifits

it would be great if we didnt let them
How many games has he played for us?
 

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Sam Durdin is getting a game today for north. He would have almost zero trade value at the moment and fits our needs as a young tall defender. I think we were keen in his draft year when he went late first round. Haven't seen him play much. He hasn't played much!
Was hoping he was part of the polec trade should of been after we throw pit dawg in.
 

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Was hoping he was part of the polec trade should of been after we throw pit dawg in.
I figure if we didn’t take durdin in the Polec/pittard trade we probably don’t rate him as a footballer. It’s hard to imagine he would have been off the table so I think port didn’t want him, unless Sam himself didn’t want to leave but I find that unlikely
 

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I figure if we didn’t take durdin in the Polec/pittard trade we probably don’t rate him as a footballer. It’s hard to imagine he would have been off the table so I think port didn’t want him, unless Sam himself didn’t want to leave but I find that unlikely
I think he had a badly broken leg at the end of last year. If he gets through the year without injury and shows a bit of form then he would be worth a list spot. Those fourth rounders aren't doing much anyway.
 

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I’d trade out Ryder FWIW

Even if it means recruiting another back up, Hayes is still an unknown for 2020 after injury and obviously Frampton isn’t trusted.

I’d be offloading Westy also
Curious... Why would we ‘offload Westhoff’?

He won our best and fairest last year, is well respected, has a great work ethic and sets a fantastic example for our kids.

His body is still in great shape and you can throw him pretty much anywhere and he will play that role to a high standard.

He is happy with year by year contracts and isn’t a risk in terms of contract length. Probably also costing us very little when you consider the output we get from him.

Im not sure you can get a better plug and play depth player. We would be stupid to ‘offload him’ IMO.

Maybe consider it after he’s spent half a season in the Magoos because a kid had come through and overtaken him for a spot... Hasn’t happened yet though.
 
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Curious... Why would we ‘offload Westhoff’?

He won our best and fairest last year, is well respected, has a great work ethic and sets a fantastic example for our kids.

His body is still in great shape and you can throw him pretty much anywhere and he will play that role to a high standard.

He is happy with year by year contracts and isn’t a risk in terms of contract length. Probably also costing us very little when you consider the output we get from him.

Im not sure you can get a better plug and play depth player. We would be stupid to ‘offload him’ IMO.

Maybe consider it after he’s spent half a season in the Magoos because a kid had come through and overtaken him for a spot... Hasn’t happened yet though.
Because we need to started transitioning some of our list. His form has been average but he will never be dropped. Plenty here have stated his 19 form is ****house
 

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Because we need to started transitioning some of our list. His form has been average but he will never be dropped. Plenty here have stated his 19 form is ****house
Anyone who can still believe that form is a significant component in team selection under Hinkley doesn’t watch Port games nor follow selections
 
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