News Trade thread for one score and four Lincoln McCarthy (picks 42 & 60 for Lincoln McCarthy, 54 & 57)

[jackess]

Surprised to see Jordan Murdoch delisted, you would think he would find another home.

Not sure he offers more than Ryan Lester would.

 

[winged1]

Not sure he offers more than Ryan Lester would.

Would Ryan Lester play 16 games in this years Geelong side?

 

[jackess]

Would Ryan Lester play 16 games in this years Geelong side?

Probably

 

[winged1]

Probably

Well he played 15 for us so it stands to reason he would play more for a finals side.

 

[jackess]

Well he played 15 for us so it stands to reason he would play more for a finals side.

Which one has just been delisted?

 

[winged1]

Which one has just been delisted?

From a much better side. Dont think Lester would be on too many lists.

 

[jackess]

From a much better side. Dont think Lester would be on too many lists.

And I don’t think Murdoch will be on any.

 

[lioninthesand]

I know it wont happen.. but i'd be stoked if we got Menzal in on a 2 year deal.

Strangest phenomenon in the AFL, the fact he is so maligned and not sort after, can only assume he must have attitude or off field issues (along with his knees)

Could easily kick 40 goals next year and would fill that mid sized role perfectly.

Dont care about pressure either.. this obsession with looking at a players fault over what they can do is BS.

 

[Biggies]

I know it wont happen.. but i'd be stoked if we got Menzal in on a 2 year deal.

Strangest phenomenon in the AFL, the fact he is so maligned and not sort after, can only assume he must have attitude or off field issues (along with his knees)

Could easily kick 40 goals next year and would fill that mid sized role perfectly.

Dont care about pressure either.. this obsession with looking at a players fault over what they can do is BS.

As good as his best is, I think we've already taken our quota of risky injury prone players for one trade period.

 

[winged1]

I know it wont happen.. but i'd be stoked if we got Menzal in on a 2 year deal.

Strangest phenomenon in the AFL, the fact he is so maligned and not sort after, can only assume he must have attitude or off field issues (along with his knees)

Could easily kick 40 goals next year and would fill that mid sized role perfectly.

Dont care about pressure either.. this obsession with looking at a players fault over what they can do is BS.

I think its the lack of defensive pressure, by all accounts he was very dedicated through his rehabs.

He has lost a lot of lateral movement but he can still play.

The suns could use him, he would probably top their goal kicking. Then again 40 would top ours.

 

[davemc_lions]

Menzal be a good pick up for the Suns you think. Or even GWS or someone pushing who needs another target although can cover his lack of defensive abilities
Would not mind him for us although bringing in 3 injured payers not a good idea.

 

[dlanod]

I think he'd be counter to what GC is trying to do, culture-wise. They just offloaded guys like Hall because of their one-way running - they can't bring in Menzel now without undermining the whole thing.

 

[lioninthesand]

I think its the lack of defensive pressure, by all accounts he was very dedicated through his rehabs.

He has lost a lot of lateral movement but he can still play.

The suns could use him, he would probably top their goal kicking. Then again 40 would top ours.

The Lack of D pressure thing is so over played.

He is incredibly tough to play on and makes defenders very nervous.

He is elite in every category as a forward, and below average in tackles and pressure acts - but that's the same for a lot of forwards.

There was also an article detailing that the way Geelong plays him, basically doesn't allow for many opportunities to pressure.

IF we got him and he played 18 or more games (which we won't and arguably shouldent) I assure you we would be absolutely loving him down there as our spot up mid sized forward along side Charlie and Hippy.

I agree with an earlier poster that we have filled our injury prone spots for this intake.

 

[Kevvo]

The Lack of D pressure thing is so over played.

He is incredibly tough to play on and makes defenders very nervous.

He is elite in every category as a forward, and below average in tackles and pressure acts - but that's the same for a lot of forwards.

There was also an article detailing that the way Geelong plays him, basically doesn't allow for many opportunities to pressure.

IF we got him and he played 18 or more games (which we won't and arguably shouldent) I assure you we would be absolutely loving him down there as our spot up mid sized forward along side Charlie and Hippy.

I agree with an earlier poster that we have filled our injury prone spots for this intake.

Are you thinking of the article from AFL.com which was basically just an interview with his manager?

My take is, clubs make weird calls but Geelong aren’t prone to amateur mistakes. They aren’t overburdened with dangerous talls and they’re still letting him go. That says to me that something important is awry.

 

[lioninthesand]

Are you thinking of the article from AFL.com which was basically just an interview with his manager?

My take is, clubs make weird calls but Geelong aren’t prone to amateur mistakes. They aren’t overburdened with dangerous talls and they’re still letting him go. That says to me that something important is awry.

Not sure who it was with, but I did see champion data stats rating him as an elite forward in every category that counts in that article. Yep, that was my initial point, must be something more than defensive pressure at play - to have a 45 goal a year forward in his prime, struggling to get a spot on an AFL list.

 

[davemc_lions]

Cats would know his medical history and as such would of been why they kept offering 1 year at a time.
From whispers around other clubs thought of pulling the trigger over free agency. Although think he wanted 2 years min and no one wanted to risk it.
They could of got him cheap without using a pick, so wonder if anyone will draft him,
Maybe he go back to year to year and someone pick him up. Even a rookie he be a get for someone.
Talent is talent

 

[davemc_lions]

Not sure who it was with, but I did see champion data stats rating him as an elite forward in every category that counts in that article. Yep, that was my initial point, must be something more than defensive pressure at play - to have a 45 goal a year forward in his prime, struggling to get a spot on an AFL list.

You wonder how Plugger would go now.. I think average 1 tackle a game as well.. A few guys taken out although not a stat they keep

 

[Lazza16]

The Lack of D pressure thing is so over played.

He is incredibly tough to play on and makes defenders very nervous.

He is elite in every category as a forward, and below average in tackles and pressure acts - but that's the same for a lot of forwards.

There was also an article detailing that the way Geelong plays him, basically doesn't allow for many opportunities to pressure.

IF we got him and he played 18 or more games (which we won't and arguably shouldent) I assure you we would be absolutely loving him down there as our spot up mid sized forward along side Charlie and Hippy.

I agree with an earlier poster that we have filled our injury prone spots for this intake.

The facts are that Geelong delisted this ELITE player for a reason. Will someone have faith in him and pick him up....? Not what we need at this point teaching our young guys bad habits as Beams was guilty of I believe.