My opinion is they won't.
Don't see a situation we're Freo give up pick 3.
Carlton would be silly to give up 5 but it could happen.
Trading the #1 pick
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Don't see a situation we're Freo give up pick 3.
Carlton would be silly to give up 5 but it could happen.
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Fair enough.
But i can see both happening with the right trades.
Freo are desperate to get something done after all the rejections this year.
Carlton will to get more and more Giants.
I think whether or not GWS get #3 is very dependent on how desperate Freo are for talls. Trading #3 for #7 + McCarthy would mean they bring in two quality players for one pick, and at #7 both Marshall & English are right in the gun, whereas at #3 they're a stretch. Although they could do with some more midfield class, their midfield is still way ahead of their talls.
That said, if GWS get #3 I think they're likely to keep it. I could see them then trading for #5, and trying to get #1 from us via a player + #5 combo. Leaving them with #1, #3 and then three more top 15 players. Ouch for the rest of the competition.
That said, if GWS get #3 I think they're likely to keep it. I could see them then trading for #5, and trying to get #1 from us via a player + #5 combo. Leaving them with #1, #3 and then three more top 15 players. Ouch for the rest of the competition.
Ouch for Eddie's fat arse
I reckon they will
McCarthy & 7 into 3 & 39
Marchbank, 15 & 16 into 5, 23 & 41
McCarthy = 17~
Marchbank = 20~
GWS trade 3 & 5 & players into 1, 26 & 37
1=Mcgrath
23, 26, 31, 37, 39, 41, etc = Setterfield, Perryman, Mutch, Sproule.
EFC walk into draft with 3, 5, 19 for live picks. 5 will become 4 after a Bowes bid.
2017 additions =
McCluggage (if brisbane take SPS, Brodie if not)
Taranto
Battle/Kerr/Berry/SPP @ 19
Steele
Barrett
Would be a good result for the Dons, if they could get Taranto and Brodie or something similar that would be brilliant to go alongside Parish and Francis. All 4 could play good senior footy next year.
Although for mine McCarthys worth is more back end of second round opposed to pick 17.
Clubs are hesitant to move on top10 selections.
To have the next 5-6 years of midfield having Merrett, Heppell, Parish, Francis, Steele, Langford, Laverde and Barrett, plus any 2 of Taranto, Brodie, McCluggage, SPS or Ainsworth is massive. Effectively means the draft sanctions are cancelled out.
McCarthy shouldn't be underrated, esp for Freo. As a second forward, he looked dangerous. Stole the light from Cameron at times in a team of kids still developing.
Had a look at their KP options. Taberner & Crozier.
To slide 4 spots and miss SPS, but still have a look at Marshall or English & land McCarthy makes sense.
Freo's midfield isn't bad. Will add Hill. Bennell is an elite talent. Weller and Blakely broke out this year. Still got Balic coming through. some kid called Fyfe. And Neale was breaking records without their best team out there.
Yep the picks Essendon have ended up getting will power them back up.
Not saying I'd like to be in that situation but it hasn't worked out poorly list management wise
Hard to say
Call Barrett, but this will be dissected as a sliding doors moment
2012 doesnt happen.
Ryder stays. Hibberd stays. Carlisle is 2 more years into the project to turn him into a FF. Crameri turns into Bont (and i think we still take Merrett in the 2nd) via the Crameri & 1st for Dogs 1st trade. We probably land Z.Smith and J.Garlett.
2014 pick is one of Laverde or Langford, not both.
We dont have Francis or Parish. Maybe a Gresham or Rioli.
Baguley Hooker Gleeson
Goddard Hurley Hibberd
Colyer Watson Bont
Langford Daniher Zaka
Fantasia Carlisle Garlett
Ryder Merrett Heppell
Smith Gresham Stanton Tippa
or 2017:
Baguley Hartley Hooker
Gleeson Hurley Tippa
Colyer Watson Parish
Laverde Daniher Langford
Fantasia Francis Steele
Berger Merrett Heppell
Barrett Brodie Taranto Zaka
Other than missing out on drafting Bont, Merrett and Fantasia in one hit, if we land a trade like this, i think I'm happier with the 2017 team
Fair stuff.
Not sure about the Bont one, it's easier to say that in hindsight.
no one will ever confirm it, but the fall out from 2013 was that the Crameri deal was supposed to be our 1st (something like 11-14) and Crameri for 4 and we wanted Bont.
Merrett was a bit of an unknown and likely still makes it to our 2nd.
Would love Bont, but not sure id give up Parish, Francis, Laverde & whatever is coming our way this offseason for him.
Cos we wouldnt have pick 1, nor do we finish bottom 4 in 2015.
I would agree with you there he said that two top 10 picks wont get it done. Thats going to be a lot for a club to part with to get it and I honestly dont thinm a club will give up that much.
Reckon he would want 3 and 5. A ridiculous amount really it would be that much of a win.
3 and 5 would have to involve later/future picks from Essendon.
May get looked at if GWS get those picks and want to secure McGrath and their academy kids in one swoop
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-06/lions-open-to-trading-pick-no2-for-two-top10-picks
Lions want 2 top 10's for no2 in a draft where nothing separates the top 10? Almost as ridiculous as them getting a PP.
Lions want 2 top 10's for no2 in a draft where nothing separates the top 10? Almost as ridiculous as them getting a PP.
I think some clubs are just trying to stir the pot: most of the public suggestions are simply ludicrous.
However, desperate teams can do stupid things. God knows mine did for many years.
In some cohorts, trading pick #1 or pick #2 would make some sense, especially if, like this year, the to bunch were very hard to separate. But the deciding factor would be, who would this club choose? If the club with the pick did not rate the guy the other wants quite so highly, then they could well decide that a deal could be made. Or, like Schache or Silvagni, for example, it was clear that the player in question would not stay at the club for more than the minimum of time before seeking to get out.
To me it is a process that is fraught with danger. Not many clubs would want to repeat Carlton's mistake with Blaine Boekhorst and company.
However, desperate teams can do stupid things. God knows mine did for many years.
In some cohorts, trading pick #1 or pick #2 would make some sense, especially if, like this year, the to bunch were very hard to separate. But the deciding factor would be, who would this club choose? If the club with the pick did not rate the guy the other wants quite so highly, then they could well decide that a deal could be made. Or, like Schache or Silvagni, for example, it was clear that the player in question would not stay at the club for more than the minimum of time before seeking to get out.
To me it is a process that is fraught with danger. Not many clubs would want to repeat Carlton's mistake with Blaine Boekhorst and company.
Really?
A mile?
A whole mile?
Alleged Eagles offered MacKenzie + 12 for 1 and Essendon said Darling needs to be involved to even consider trading pick 1.
So is that Darling + MacKenzie?
So is that Darling + MacKenzie + 12?
So is that Darling + 12?
They wouldn't do Darling and 5.
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Think a deal might be Essendon trading pick 1 for GWS' 15 and 7 and then we might be able to package both those picks to Brisbane for their pick 2. Sounds great.
Lets look at the past #1 picks shall we.
- Weitering - looks ok so far.
- Paddy McCarthy - Hmmmmm. Jury out.
- Tom Boyd - up until his last game jury out.
- Lachie Whitfield - still to deliver.
- Patton - 2 knee recos, still to deliver.
- D Swallow - injuries, still to deliver.
- T Scully - decent but not what you'd be happy with from a pick 1.
- Jack Watts - finally showing something after 7 years.
- Matty Kruzer - unfortunate injuries but solid. Disappointing return from pick 1.
- Gibbs - faaaaaaar out, actually finally showed more than a glimpse why he went pick 1 after what 9 years.
- M Murphy - not bad just went to a club in turmoil.
- Delideo - nice pick, shame about the club.
Then you look at other pick 1's in Des Headland, Josh Fraser, Clive Waterhouse, Travis Johnson and Michael Gardiner.
Just shows how stupid your post was.
Not gonna even bother if you look at it like that.Lets look at the past #1 picks shall we.
So of the past 12 pick 1's I'd suggest Darling actually wouldn't be a stranger in that group with what he has shown and he's still only 23.
- Weitering - looks ok so far.
- Paddy McCarthy - Hmmmmm. Jury out.
- Tom Boyd - up until his last game jury out.
- Lachie Whitfield - still to deliver.
- Patton - 2 knee recos, still to deliver.
- D Swallow - injuries, still to deliver.
- T Scully - decent but not what you'd be happy with from a pick 1.
- Jack Watts - finally showing something after 7 years.
- Matty Kruzer - unfortunate injuries but solid. Disappointing return from pick 1.
- Gibbs - faaaaaaar out, actually finally showed more than a glimpse why he went pick 1 after what 9 years.
- M Murphy - not bad just went to a club in turmoil.
- Delideo - nice pick, shame about the club.
Then you look at other pick 1's in Des Headland, Josh Fraser, Clive Waterhouse, Travis Johnson and Michael Gardiner.
Just shows how stupid your post was.
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Straight swap for darling, get it done dodo.
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