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History suggests that there at least one or two big names that change clubs at the end of each year! Do you guys think we could actually manage to sign up one of these big names for once!?!

Who is likely?! We obviously need everything but ruckmen and forwards, classy quick midfielders being a priority!?

To get these big names we will probably have to give something in return and i think that might come in the form of Tarrant, or maybe a Fraser c cloke?! obree or cole?! all good players (some awesome some not so good!) but ones we can do without if a suitable trade is available!
 

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Do you guys think we could actually manage to sign up one of these big names for once!?!
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Harsh, but fair

I guess the question you ask yourself is what do we have that Geelong would like? I would give you untill the end of the season to work it out, but whats the point, you will never find someone
 

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We are going to struggle to trade this year again and this is the frightening reality. Names will be bandied around about how interested we are in everyone but push come to shove we will struggle.

For mine , our tradeable names are few and may be lacking in being able to generate genuine interest. We should put Lockyer/ LDavis/ Maxwell/ Richards /Obree / as possible trade possibilities.
Forget Lokan,Williams,D King,T Walker,Davidson /JCloke as options, we wont get swat for these guys.Maybey J Cloke but he gets way too much negative publicity to be tradeable.

The next group of players are the ones we have an attachment with as supporters, and would generally comprimise being able to cover their position
on the ground. These guys would give us a 'trade' value and negotiating power. JFrazer / Tarrant / Didak / Presty / Lonie / Clement / Licuria / Holland/ Johnson / Rocca.

Buckley , Burns, wakelin , Caracella ,Morrison wont be traded for various reasons. Rowe Swan B hall , the Shaws , Iacobucci Egan , Rusling, will be kept on . B Morrison is gone, not even a chance of being tradeable.

Am i even on the right track?
 

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Believe it or not quite a few clubs interested in Ryan Lonie - especially the Bulldogs.
what would be a good trade? we had our chance to get gilbee, that is now gone, maybe for a 2nd round pick?

a change of scene would bring out the best in Ryan
 

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a change of scene would bring out the best in Ryan
Agree, but what sucks is that when he becomes a damaging half back/forward for.. say.. Geelong, then people turn around and accuse us of off-loading "quality players" when we should have kept them. The reality, though, is that many players were just getting stale at the club, and would have never been like they are if they stayed (eg: Lockett (and his longevity)/Hall from St. Kilda to Sydney)
Even Willo and Schaubs going to Sydney wouldn't have been what they are if they stayed at Collingwood, same with Mal Michael.
 

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what would be a good trade? we had our chance to get gilbee, that is now gone, maybe for a 2nd round pick?

a change of scene would bring out the best in Ryan

reckon if we threw in our 2nd round draft pick theyd give us daniel giansercusa or Hahn
 

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Agree, but what sucks is that when he becomes a damaging half back/forward for.. say.. Geelong, then people turn around and accuse us of off-loading "quality players" when we should have kept them. The reality, though, is that many players were just getting stale at the club, and would have never been like they are if they stayed (eg: Lockett (and his longevity)/Hall from St. Kilda to Sydney)
Even Willo and Schaubs going to Sydney wouldn't have been what they are if they stayed at Collingwood, same with Mal Michael.
I'll bookmark this quote to use in the defence of my club when this occurs ............... sigh, regularly in the past.
 

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quam said:
reckon if we threw in our 2nd round draft pick theyd give us daniel giansercusa or Hahn
yeah i have been saying all along that giansirracusa should be a target this trade period! if it means losing lonie and a pick then so be it! Your rigth by saying that lonie needs a change of scenary or a new coach to bring the best out of him! i wouldnt trade lockyer, because i am assuming that he will reach his pre-injury form! He will be good next year.
 

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reckon if we threw in our 2nd round draft pick theyd give us daniel giansercusa or Hahn
No you won't get that deal. Gia and Hahn are in the Bulldogs leadership group and I think both re-signed recently. We wouldn't trade players of that quality for Lonie, with all due respect.

If we were to contemplate trading one of those guys we would want a quality key forward in the mix.

Would you take a first round pick (around 6 or 7) for Tarrant?
 

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Agree, but what sucks is that when he becomes a damaging half back/forward for.. say.. Geelong, then people turn around and accuse us of off-loading "quality players" when we should have kept them.
i wouldnt mind if that was the case...he has talent, but just cruises through his career and soon enough it may come that he will realise it is too late to turn it around and stop himself ripping it up for Frankston in the VFL

i hope he can turn it around
 

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No you won't get that deal. Gia and Hahn are in the Bulldogs leadership group and I think both re-signed recently. We wouldn't trade players of that quality for Lonie, with all due respect.

If we were to contemplate trading one of those guys we would want a quality key forward in the mix.

Would you take a first round pick (around 6 or 7) for Tarrant?
none taken, lonie is soft!
not a bad offer for taz! the only way we wold take that is if we got a good youngster in teh draft!! it seems that this years draft wont be that deep so your first round pick wont be worth taz! For those of us who have seen taz play his best we know how good he can be, absolutely unstopable! but unfortunatley injuries and a crap team have taken their toll on him! realistically worth more! perhaps tarrant plus a pick or a player or both for cooney?!
 

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Would you take a first round pick (around 6 or 7) for Tarrant?
That would be a hard offer to turn down, but we'd probably want a player as well. Not a superstar, just someone with pace.
 

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Brad Murphy?
Maybe... How's his kicking? Don't care much if it's not perfect, but he doesn't kick hospital floaters all day, does he?

sealer said:
What about one of the Geelong players - they are struggling to sign up all theres. Should have got Moloney last year.....
Brent Moloney = Rhyce Shaw. Kicks it a little bit further, but gets it less. They both have passable footskills, no more, no less.
 

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Maybe... How's his kicking? Don't care much if it's not perfect, but he doesn't kick hospital floaters all day, does he?
Brad Murphy is a highly skilled, goal kicking HFF. Can play on the wing as a playmaker and made a great debut against Port Adelaide. The kid can play, probably has missed out on a spot at the Dogs as we have too many players of his ilk and they have all added other aspects to their game.
 

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What about one of the Geelong players - they are struggling to sign up all theres. Should have got Moloney last year.....
Bartel!! thats what we need! tarrant for bartel fair trade!
 

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Here's a long list that we could target:
However I don't think many prime players will be traded.
Polak - we need a youngish tall defender and if we could get him at a reasonable price he may pay off. But is too much of a risk if we give up too much for him as his career hasn't lived up to expectations.

Schammer - probably won't pass MM's character test and is also probably just a quicker version of Holland who drifts in and out of games too easily.

Bartel/Kelly/Corey - I'm not sure which one of these have recently signed up, I think it was corey, but we'd need to give up a bit for one of these and again none of them are known for pace.

Goddard - perhaps could be used on the wing or as a link player running through the mid, unlikely to though.

Tenace - again unlikely to leave but was a huge Collingwood supporter growing up (his mum had to put away all his Collingwood merchandise).

Kerr - not a huge fan of him and would have to give up a big fish or early picks for him but will probably be on the list

Others include: Salopek, D.White or Thurstans (perhaps turn into CHB? im not sure), and perhaps even one of Giansiracusa, Cooney or Gilbee but these 3 are very unlikely and have probably recently re-signed.
 

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jabso said:
Here's a long list that we could target:
However I don't think many prime players will be traded.
Polak - we need a youngish tall defender and if we could get him at a reasonable price he may pay off. But is too much of a risk if we give up too much for him as his career hasn't lived up to expectations.

Schammer - probably won't pass MM's character test and is also probably just a quicker version of Holland who drifts in and out of games too easily.

Bartel/Kelly/Corey - I'm not sure which one of these have recently signed up, I think it was corey, but we'd need to give up a bit for one of these and again none of them are known for pace.

Goddard - perhaps could be used on the wing or as a link player running through the mid, unlikely to though.

Tenace - again unlikely to leave but was a huge Collingwood supporter growing up (his mum had to put away all his Collingwood merchandise).

Kerr - not a huge fan of him and would have to give up a big fish or early picks for him but will probably be on the list

Others include: Salopek, D.White or Thurstans (perhaps turn into CHB? im not sure), and perhaps even one of Giansiracusa, Cooney or Gilbee but these 3 are very unlikely and have probably recently re-signed.

i agree with one of bartel or cooney(bartel being more likely!). to get cooney i think we would have to offload a tall and a first round pick!

giansiracusa is another really good option, may get him for cheaper now that he hasnt played much of the year and is out of form, but this guy is goign to be an awesome player!

salopek is another who i have been lobying for, injured fro the majority of his career had glandular and is a really good running skillful player, would be an awesoem a addition!

dont particularly fancy gilbee! turns teh ball over abit!

tenace is another one that would be worth getting! we went after him last year and missed out i think that we will be able to snare him this year as his price has no doubt gone down! unlike i think he is out of favour at the cats and would love to jump ship!

Polak could be good pick up but we'll find it hard to steal a kpp!
Eventhough it is not evident at the moment our ageing backline is struggling for depth! it will be a priority to pick a kpp chb or full back in the near future coz we are severely lacking in that department it is not obvious because our backline is so strong at present.

dont be surpised if we pick up dowler with our first pick this year and convert him to a CHB!
 

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Those thinking of trading tarrant think again. If we had a half decent team on the field (we do have a pretty damn good side) instead of injured etc, he would be All Australian every year, remember the year believe it to be 2002 or 3 ********ing dominated every week. Just need Rocca and the rest to atleast stay injury free for more than 2 games. We are right, just use our 2nd or 3rd pick plus the 4th or 5th, pick up a gun young midfielder with the early pick, and trade the other plus our 2nd rounder for a lucas/whitnall to play chb.. or a a polak etc. thats all we need. we will pretty much finish 15th as hawks only need to win one more to pass us. even carlton might if we are gonna play last few rounds for the picks.

Top young midfielder plus bargain power with another great pick to get a quality player from another team. The top 5 of every draft is always great moreso the lower ones in recent times so there worth the value.
 
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