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[No SPIN]

The loading is during the June/July period usually.

interesting that Maynard said in the post game interview " we set ourselves to get through July".
As if there was something particularly onerous about July - it could well be about winning while loading.

 

[Anzacday]

interesting that Maynard said in the post game interview " we set ourselves to get through July".
As if there was something particularly onerous about July - it could well be about winning while loading.

I remember we used to hope we'd win a game in July one day.

 

[manicpie]

I remember we used to hope we'd win a game in July one day.

We did go through a few dry July's in the past

 

[Scodog10]

I remember we used to hope we'd win a game in July one day.

I swear Shaw’s record during one of the winter months was like 1-15. It might have been 97 or 98 where we were travelling ok then just dropped 4 on the trot and were cooked.

Edit: 96-99 and it was June. The record was 1-14. Then 2-17 into 2000…

 

[windchimes]

We did go through a few dry July's in the past

A feat I could only dream of.

 

[TradeDraft]

Only thing we need to do is Goal Kicking all week

 

[BillyElliott]

Only thing we need to do is Goal Kicking all week

Our goal kicking has been fine up until last night. Sometimes you just have those games.

 

[northcotehead]

"Heavy loaded training" in preparation for finals.

My novice assumption after the few times i've heard this term brought up is that the team goes hard at training for a period of time to maximise fitness and then tapers off later.
Can someone give me some clarification on this and are we actually doing it, and if we are, can it be a reason for last nights performance.

 

[BillyElliott]

"Heavy loaded training" in preparation for finals.

My novice assumption after the few times i've heard this term brought up is that the team goes hard at training for a period of time to maximise fitness and then tapers off later.
Can someone give me some clarification on this and are we actually doing it, and if we are, can it be a reason for last nights performance.

Fly and a few of the boys have alluded to different training loads specifically in July & just getting through July. I'm guessing that's what they were referring to.

I suppose they wouldn't be giving away too much information or details.

 

[Jen2310]

Not sure what time it’s on atm [emoji848]


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[Jen2310]

10:30


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Not sure what time it’s on atm [emoji848] View attachment 1761646


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Looks just like a count-down timer not yet set, ie currently set to the maximum of 24 hours?

 

[Jen2310]

Looks just like a count-down timer not yet set, ie currently set to the maximum of 24 hours?

Yeah was trying to work that out [emoji23]


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[The Magnificent Seven]

Looks just like a count-down timer not yet set, ie currently set to the maximum of 24 hours?

Nah we're at 11:59:59 on the Premiership Clock

 

[Pie thon]

"Heavy loaded training" in preparation for finals.

My novice assumption after the few times i've heard this term brought up is that the team goes hard at training for a period of time to maximise fitness and then tapers off later.
Can someone give me some clarification on this and are we actually doing it, and if we are, can it be a reason for last nights performance.

Ive made more sense of it lately thinking about it more

Remembering Fly talking about players having PBs in the gym August last year

They must be pushing themselves in the gym at the moment to get PBs, you would have sore muscles from the gym workouts. I suppose the logic is that they want peak strength for September, then for finals they stop getting sore from workouts. Be at peak strength for a couple of weeks. Then the muscle strength starts to reverse, but by then its the last 2 weeks of finals.

The top 4 teams are probably doing this because of the buffer

Everyone else in contention would asses if its worth doing it or not to whatever degree. Short term gain vs long term gain. Last year we took the gamble and did it and still won. maybe the close wins strategy was to exhort the least amount of energy game day for a win for maximum gym output.

Then we performed even better in finals last year. So i trust their process. Fly, Leppa & Bolton have experienced the Lions, Hawks and Tiger dynasties to know what works best

This loaded training also explains, why the weak teams perform well early in the season, or why teams with a caretaker coach desperate to impress perform well, because they can go for low training loads to get a jump, but then wares off

Edit: To answer your question about the game. As a wishful theory. With Voss being under so much pressure two months ago. Hopefully chose the option of low training loads to build momentum into their winning streak. Was able to bring in sore players like Cripps and Cerra off low training loads to play. But may run out of steam in the next month as a long term cost.

I would also love to hear more from anyone else with more knowledge about strategy with loaded training

 

[sr36]

Ive made more sense of it lately thinking about it more

Remembering Fly talking about players having PBs in the gym August last year

They must be pushing themselves in the gym at the moment to get PBs, you would have sore muscles from the gym workouts. I suppose the logic is that they want peak strength for September, then for finals they stop getting sore from workouts. Be at peak strength for a couple of weeks. Then the muscle strength starts to reverse, but by then its the last 2 weeks of finals.

The top 4 teams are probably doing this because of the buffer

Everyone else in contention would asses if its worth doing it or not to whatever degree. Short term gain vs long term gain. Last year we took the gamble and did it and still won. maybe the close wins strategy was to exhort the least amount of energy game day for a win for maximum gym output.

Then we performed even better in finals last year. So i trust their process. Fly, Leppa & Bolton have experienced the Lions, Hawks and Tiger dynasties to know what works best

This loaded training also explains, why the weak teams perform well early in the season, or why teams with a caretaker coach desperate to impress perform well, because they can go for low training loads to get a jump, but then wares off

I suspect you're right. And if true, it'd blow the resting theory out of the water. We're not going to rest them now - we're going to smash them. The only reason to leave them out, other than injury, would be so that you could train them even harder without game day knocks to recover from

 

[manicpie]

Ive made more sense of it lately thinking about it more

Remembering Fly talking about players having PBs in the gym August last year

They must be pushing themselves in the gym at the moment to get PBs, you would have sore muscles from the gym workouts. I suppose the logic is that they want peak strength for September, then for finals they stop getting sore from workouts. Be at peak strength for a couple of weeks. Then the muscle strength starts to reverse, but by then its the last 2 weeks of finals.

The top 4 teams are probably doing this because of the buffer

Everyone else in contention would asses if its worth doing it or not to whatever degree. Short term gain vs long term gain. Last year we took the gamble and did it and still won. maybe the close wins strategy was to exhort the least amount of energy game day for a win for maximum gym output.

Then we performed even better in finals last year. So i trust their process. Fly, Leppa & Bolton have experienced the Lions, Hawks and Tiger dynasties to know what works best

This loaded training also explains, why the weak teams perform well early in the season, or why teams with a caretaker coach desperate to impress perform well, because they can go for low training loads to get a jump, but then wares off

Edit: To answer your question about the game. As a wishful theory. With Voss being under so much pressure two months ago. Hopefully chose the option of low training loads to build momentum into their winning streak. Was able to bring in sore players like Cripps and Cerra off low training loads to play. But may run out of steam in the next month as a long term cost.

I would also love to hear more from anyone else with more knowledge about strategy with loaded training

The training for the remainder of the year will probably focus more on game plan rather than smashing them through training. Training loads seem to have been around for many years for teams in finals contention

 

[Pie thon]

The training for the remainder of the year will probably focus more on game plan rather than smashing them through training. Training loads seem to have been around for many years for teams in finals contention

Maybe more the gym aspect. Only because Fly mentioned it late last year about all the PBs in the gym. But yes the training would have to be game plan based, we cant win with pure muscle

 

[BillyElliott]

Ive made more sense of it lately thinking about it more

Remembering Fly talking about players having PBs in the gym August last year

They must be pushing themselves in the gym at the moment to get PBs, you would have sore muscles from the gym workouts. I suppose the logic is that they want peak strength for September, then for finals they stop getting sore from workouts. Be at peak strength for a couple of weeks. Then the muscle strength starts to reverse, but by then its the last 2 weeks of finals.

The top 4 teams are probably doing this because of the buffer

Everyone else in contention would asses if its worth doing it or not to whatever degree. Short term gain vs long term gain. Last year we took the gamble and did it and still won. maybe the close wins strategy was to exhort the least amount of energy game day for a win for maximum gym output.

Then we performed even better in finals last year. So i trust their process. Fly, Leppa & Bolton have experienced the Lions, Hawks and Tiger dynasties to know what works best

This loaded training also explains, why the weak teams perform well early in the season, or why teams with a caretaker coach desperate to impress perform well, because they can go for low training loads to get a jump, but then wares off

Edit: To answer your question about the game. As a wishful theory. With Voss being under so much pressure two months ago. Hopefully chose the option of low training loads to build momentum into their winning streak. Was able to bring in sore players like Cripps and Cerra off low training loads to play. But may run out of steam in the next month as a long term cost.

I would also love to hear more from anyone else with more knowledge about strategy with loaded training

It's probably not a coincidence that there were so many upsets on the weekend. Will be interesting to see whether the teams which are firing now (example Blues) run out of steam as the weeks progress. I sincerely hope so.

 

[Markfs]

I know it can't be pointed at or measured or put up on a screen and analysed but desire is one of the main reasons people achieve or not achieve their goals.....including winning. Other things like fear of failure and a lack of self-confidence and a myriad of other things that champion data cant measure. You only have to remember a while back when a few players referenced the psych for helping them. You get the occasional reference by the experts such as when a coached is changed and the players are "freed up"....but we dont dwell on it too much because the stats are easier to discuss.

 

[sr36]

I know it can't be pointed at or measured or put up on a screen and analysed but desire if one of the main reasons people achieve or not achieve their goals.....including winning. Other things like fear of failure and a lack of self-confidence and a myriad of other things that champion data cant measure. You only have to remember a while back when a few players referenced the psych for helping them. You get the occasional reference by the experts such as when a coached is changed and the players are "freed up"....but we dont dwell on it too much because the stats are easier to discuss.

We talk about teams being fired up, switched on and up for the contest or alternatively flat all the time.
Effort/talent and execution/strategy. There's your holy trinity of success - and probably in that order.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

As a wishful theory. With Voss being under so much pressure two months ago. Hopefully chose the option of low training loads to build momentum into their winning streak.

I think it’s more the case that you wouldn’t load up too heavily if you’re still trying to “qualify” for finals, to use Fly’s term.

The teams who were locked into top four, ie. us, Brisbane, Port… could afford to increase loads now because dropping out of top four was very unlikely.

 

[BuildEmUp]

Our goal kicking has been fine up until last night. Sometimes you just have those games.

correct we were 1st in rankings till last week ...

 

[BuildEmUp]

It's probably not a coincidence that there were so many upsets on the weekend. Will be interesting to see whether the teams which are firing now (example Blues) run out of steam as the weeks progress. I sincerely hope so.

I sincerely hope Saints beat scum by 1 pt on the weekend to start their slide culminating with GWS finishing them off

 

[Jen2310]

Round 21 - August 1st. Tuesday training.

I wasn't totally sure what time they were starting. Got there at 9, but nothing was going on. cars were there, so they would be training but was just a matter of when.
Got word it was then at 10:30, so went over to the Brumble cafe at the G for some breakfast, then came back just as they were about to begin. It finished up around 12.

They came out going through a banner. On my side, it was the banner that was used for the VFLW Grand Final... but on the other side was dedicated to La Trobe Financial signing on for another 4 years. But they went through with some energy and spark, so maybe there is a bit to this exercise than just about the sponsor.

There was a real focus about improving the connection between our backs - mids- forwards. They did a drill I've never seen before; when they split up into line groups and worked on the ball movement from one end to another.
There was also focus on ball movement, clearing from stoppage.
There was some match play as well, which the squad was split up into blacks, whites and players in yellow vests. They rotated teams, one team would have to wait their turn, so they would do goal kicking or other different things while the other two teams were in play.

There was no signs of what changes may come, not in this session at least. That'll have to wait until Thur session to see who may be dropped, or who keeps their spot.

Fin Macrae was back out on the track after his surgery. No sling like he had on during the VFL game, but just taping around his finger. Did a bunch of running sessions with Charlie Dean.