Training Training Thread 2023

[The acurate one]

I also wonder this, my role consists of working from home and getting 4 to five calls a week, giving my thoughts or advise on what should happen. At times it's boring and you feel like you need a challenge, but the flip side is i get to do everything with the kids eg: School drop off, sport training, games etc.

Man that's awesome, if you've younger children it's a great life/work balance.

Normally they call it work/life but you've got it the other way. Stick at it. This driving to work and home again for absolutely no real value is a head ****

 

[King Corey]

Yeah a very valid point I do wonder how I would go if I was expected to work to a level of near competence eight hours a day.

In saying all of that I was chatting to the lovely Ms Sharon and suggested we could look at an FM job for me at a resort somewhere a bit kinder to our aging bones.

Rent the house out as most come with accommodation.

Good points but you've been warned.

The next employer who "pays what you're worth" may not take as kindly to your 14 day 3 hour per day Muscle Beachesque pro-bodybuilding split.

 

[Tas]

Yeah a very valid point I do wonder how I would go if I was expected to work to a level of near competence eight hours a day.

In saying all of that I was chatting to the lovely Ms Sharon and suggested we could look at an FM job for me at a resort somewhere a bit kinder to our aging bones.

Rent the house out as most come with accommodation.

Get financial advice from a bean counter before you use your home to derive income as it may impact it's tax free status if/when you dispose of it. If you planned to sell it at some point get some advice on how it will impact you. ATO has gone after people who have had rental income and are living at a different address for lodging incorrect tax returns... it is something on their radar now.

 

[BatesyNMFC]

Simpkin also Captain. Meant to get named after today’s session. I left as the players were still on the ground doing autographs

 

[Mixed Results]

Its almost crazy to think that nine players from his own NAB League team were drafted ahead of Drury.

Anyway, ignoring the step up from David Nobrain to Clarko, there seems to be a lot more optimism on the track this year.

Last year it felt like Corr, Phillips, CCJ, Greenwood and JHF were the players who looked like they’d be able to step up and help us onfield the most immediately. Given the year Phillips had, Greenwood’s health and the limited brain activity of JHF, that ended up being nowhere near enough to cover the loss of handy mature players like Tarrant, Dumont, Cunnington, Atley, and Garner.

This year it seems like we can start hoping Cunnington, Phillips, Drury, Howe, Archer, Curtis, Powell, Goater, Comben, Tucker, Shiels, Sheezel, and Logue will be the players most likely to improve us onfield. That’s maybe 200 games this year from players who were either out of the side last year, or playing underdeveloped.

Hopefully we get some confirmation that there’ll be another session next week, as I wouldn’t mind heading down.

 

[King Corey]

Get financial advice from a bean counter before you use your home to derive income as it may impact it's tax free status if/when you dispose of it. If you planned to sell it at some point get some advice on how it will impact you. ATO has gone after people who have had rental income and are living at a different address for lodging incorrect tax returns... it is something on their radar now.

Question for The acurate one a friend - does running a live webcam "for a bit of pocket money" constitute "deriving income"?

 

[giantroo]

 

[Tas]

Question for The acurate one a friend - does running a live webcam "for a bit of pocket money" constitute "deriving income"?

Disclaimer: It has been a long time since I was a tax agent so don't consider anything I post as reliable advice. :stern look

Renting out the house is the main issue for losing part or all CGT tax exemption for primary residency, you can also lose part of it when you are claiming deductions for home office expenses. This has been a bit of a murky thing since covid as a alot of people are working from home now and not sure they fully understand the implications.

Home-based business and CGT implications | Australian Taxation Office

If you used any part of your home for business purposes, you may have to pay CGT when you sell it.

www.ato.gov.au

If you do a live webcam, like on Twitch or Youtube or Tik Tok and the area isn't specifically set aside for business use, ie just using your home computer, and you aren't declaring home office expenses you should be fine... but I'd get advice from a tax agent as there might be a ruling published that I am not aware about and I am a bit lax on keeping up with ATO rulings.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Just listening to Kingy on SEN give a wrap of todays scratch match. He said cunnerz is back, dominating, took control and those big swooping well weighted handballs are back. Also saying wilphil is in for a big year!

 

[Sphynx]

My observations, I watched about an hour of match sim:

Archer: Didn't do a lot, but he didn't need to, he was lined up against Mahoney who didn't really get near it. Archer had one nice play on the wing, he is moving well.

Bergman: Was playing for the yellows, didn't see much of it, but was at least out there and injury free.

CCJ: Thought Dawson had the better of him early, then he got off the chain slightly, including a 1 v 1 marking win which he slotted from 40.

Comben: Probably had a quieter day than he would have liked, but he is pretty close to a lock for Rnd 1, will take a heap of heat off of Larkey.

Cunners: Was close to BOG in the first quarter. He still can't move to well, but anywhere within 10m of the ball he's just a colossus. Took a few of his trademark overhead marks also, disposal by hand and foot all elite and a demonstration to his team mates how a top class footballer goes about it in possession.

Curtis: Probably my pick for this years breakout player. He's put on a massive amount of muscle for his size/position in one offseason and you can see the Samoan gene's coming through. I think it's pretty telling that Clarko is using him as the extra forward that moves into the center square rotations instead of someone like Zurhaar. He burrowed in, stood up in a tackle, rag dolled the person trying to defend him, to get the first clearance of the game. He then took a hanger 2 mins later. He's going to be a frightening hard matchup both physically and because of his skillset in 3-4 years, he's already bigger and more powerful than most small forwards getting around. Massive ceiling.

Dawson: He's a specimen and I think will be very very handy for the senior side at times during the year.

Drury: He couldn't have done any more or been more impressive. Probably had 15-20 touches off half back in the equivalent of a half of footy. Ran Cooper ragged and honestly treated him with a bit of contempt at times. Disposal over 15-30m is absolutely elite, he's sharp of skills and mind. Clearly has a big footy IQ as his running patterns to give and receive are all of 100+ gamer. He honestly might play more footy than Wardlaw this year, given the latters fitness base atm. Smoky for Rnd 1. I want to see him on some established half forwards in the preseason games.

Edwards: Might have put on some muscle, but was nowhere near it. Needs some pretty rapid improvement for this VFL season. His body size isn't the issue, it's his running patterns, aggressiveness going for the ball etc. He looks very much like a local footballer kid training with an AFL club, not a kid that's been there for 18 months already.

Ford: Took a nice pack mark and goaled. He would be hating what he was seeing from PC and Sheezel though, basically market corrected him.

Free: Hes a bit unco, but he has a bit about him. He beat Goldy in a boundary throw in and then spread which had Monky taking notice. X had the better of him here or there, he's still going to be a very solid addition to the VFL side.

Goater: He's just a specimen that needs 20+ games pumped into him today. His kicking was a little hit and miss, but he did hit an absolutely glorious 50m pass on his left to a leading player out of 50. Absolutely rinsed Comben in a marking contest when he sprung up and spoiled, landed on his feet, recoved and was gone before Comben even knew what had happened. Should be the starting HBF/Wing without a doubt.

Greenwood: Seems to be moving better and was a decent match for Cunners at times.

Cooper H: Probably wants to get home and go to sleep after today. He probably had 1-2 touches to Drury's 15-20. He got an absolute lesson today about the top level. Just because you are a forward, that doesn't make you the most damaging of you and your direct opponent. He sagged off thinking Drury would have to go with him and Drury just continually buried him moving the ball out of defense.

Howe: Rehab group

Larkey: Typical Nick, you know what you are going to get.

Lazzaro: Just don't know where he fits anymore, was lining up on Bailey and Bailey was one of the best on the ground. Better options in almost all of his positions.

Mahoney: See Lazzaro. Except he just didn't get near it much and Archer was patrolling him like a dour defender.

Perez: Was out there, but has some decent competition with Goater and Drury who were both better.

Phillips: Thought he and Simpkin shared the points and both were in the best 4-5 on the ground. Jy probably had slightly more of it, but was a bit diabolical with his footskills at times, where Will was surgical. He's a real point of difference with how well he uses it by foot vs Jy and even LDU. Showed good zip from stoppage but was Boomer like over 30-40m, hitting pretty much every one of his kicks lace out for the game. Will be interesting to see if Clarko starts Cunners or Will as the 3rd midfielder in March. I genuinely think he overtakes Jy in a few seasons, he's just a lot more damaging when he has it.

Powell: Bit more of the Powell of old. Was spreading nicely, got plenty of it up against Jy, Cunners and Shiels. Will be interesting if he starts the year in the AFL or VFL, he will absolutely obliterate the VFL if he has to play that level.

Bailey Scott: Rinsed Laz for most of the game, was all over the ground, close to BOG. Looks to be making strides on even his breakout year last year.

Sheezel: Kicked the opening goal of the game when he cut through 50 and kicked it straight through from 40. He had another 8-9 touches up through the center square and even times in transition at half back, demonstrating his work rate for a half forward. Kicked another point from about 50 after being awarded a holding the ball. Moving nicely and a very nice size for a 1st preseason rookie.

Shiels: Based on today he would be close to playing Rnd 1. He looks a general improvement on Jed to me. Had a ton of it, was directing teammates, was spreading all over the ground. Ball use was good. Will be a valuable 20-22 player imo.

Zurhaar: Got absolutely baked by Shiels and Cunners for burning them in transition. Then had one of the worst turnovers ever at half back that gifted the other side a goal. Zurhaar is a fantastic player on his day, but still an extremely selfish one. Can't see Clarko copping half of what he has gotten away with on field for the last few years.

Lienert will be a very very handy recruit for the VFL side, one we've needed for absolutely ages, he took CCJ, Free and Edwards at different stages.

 

[speedy]

Young Blake Drury looks very good so far. Very smart and is elite by foot. Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays round 1.


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Probably why he has been moved back so quick. It's pretty clear clarko wants to fix the backline first and would want smart and elite ball users back there.

 

[Masked Avenger]

My observations, I watched about an hour of match sim:

Archer: Didn't do a lot, but he didn't need to, he was lined up against Mahoney who didn't really get near it. Archer had one nice play on the wing, he is moving well.

Bergman: Was playing for the yellows, didn't see much of it, but was at least out there and injury free.

CCJ: Thought Dawson had the better of him early, then he got off the chain slightly, including a 1 v 1 marking win which he slotted from 40.

Comben: Probably had a quieter day than he would have liked, but he is pretty close to a lock for Rnd 1, will take a heap of heat off of Larkey.

Cunners: Was close to BOG in the first quarter. He still can't move to well, but anywhere within 10m of the ball he's just a colossus. Took a few of his trademark overhead marks also, disposal by hand and foot all elite and a demonstration to his team mates how a top class footballer goes about it in possession.

Curtis: Probably my pick for this years breakout player. He's put on a massive amount of muscle for his size/position in one offseason and you can see the Samoan gene's coming through. I think it's pretty telling that Clarko is using him as the extra forward that moves into the center square rotations instead of someone like Zurhaar. He burrowed in, stood up in a tackle, rag dolled the person trying to defend him, to get the first clearance of the game. He then took a hanger 2 mins later. He's going to be a frightening hard matchup both physically and because of his skillset in 3-4 years, he's already bigger and more powerful than most small forwards getting around. Massive ceiling.

Dawson: He's a specimen and I think will be very very handy for the senior side at times during the year.

Drury: He couldn't have done any more or been more impressive. Probably had 15-20 touches off half back in the equivalent of a half of footy. Ran Cooper ragged and honestly treated him with a bit of contempt at times. Disposal over 15-30m is absolutely elite, he's sharp of skills and mind. Clearly has a big footy IQ as his running patterns to give and receive are all of 100+ gamer. He honestly might play more footy than Wardlaw this year, given the latters fitness base atm. Smoky for Rnd 1. I want to see him on some established half forwards in the preseason games.

Edwards: Might have put on some muscle, but was nowhere near it. Needs some pretty rapid improvement for this VFL season. His body size isn't the issue, it's his running patterns, aggressiveness going for the ball etc. He looks very much like a local footballer kid training with an AFL club, not a kid that's been there for 18 months already.

Ford: Took a nice pack mark and goaled. He would be hating what he was seeing from PC and Sheezel though, basically market corrected him.

Free: Hes a bit unco, but he has a bit about him. He beat Goldy in a boundary throw in and then spread which had Monky taking notice. X had the better of him here or there, he's still going to be a very solid addition to the VFL side.

Goater: He's just a specimen that needs 20+ games pumped into him today. His kicking was a little hit and miss, but he did hit an absolutely glorious 50m pass on his left to a leading player out of 50. Absolutely rinsed Comben in a marking contest when he sprung up and spoiled, landed on his feet, recoved and was gone before Comben even knew what had happened. Should be the starting HBF/Wing without a doubt.

Greenwood: Seems to be moving better and was a decent match for Cunners at times.

Cooper H: Probably wants to get home and go to sleep after today. He probably had 1-2 touches to Drury's 15-20. He got an absolute lesson today about the top level. Just because you are a forward, that doesn't make you the most damaging of you and your direct opponent. He sagged off thinking Drury would have to go with him and Drury just continually buried him moving the ball out of defense.

Howe: Rehab group

Larkey: Typical Nick, you know what you are going to get.

Lazzaro: Just don't know where he fits anymore, was lining up on Bailey and Bailey was one of the best on the ground. Better options in almost all of his positions.

Mahoney: See Lazzaro. Except he just didn't get near it much and Archer was patrolling him like a dour defender.

Perez: Was out there, but has some decent competition with Goater and Drury who were both better.

Phillips: Thought he and Simpkin shared the points and both were in the best 4-5 on the ground. Jy probably had slightly more of it, but was a bit diabolical with his footskills at times, where Will was surgical. He's a real point of difference with how well he uses it by foot vs Jy and even LDU. Showed good zip from stoppage but was Boomer like over 30-40m, hitting pretty much every one of his kicks lace out for the game. Will be interesting to see if Clarko starts Cunners or Will as the 3rd midfielder in March. I genuinely think he overtakes Jy in a few seasons, he's just a lot more damaging when he has it.

Powell: Bit more of the Powell of old. Was spreading nicely, got plenty of it up against Jy, Cunners and Shiels. Will be interesting if he starts the year in the AFL or VFL, he will absolutely obliterate the VFL if he has to play that level.

Bailey Scott: Rinsed Laz for most of the game, was all over the ground, close to BOG. Looks to be making strides on even his breakout year last year.

Sheezel: Kicked the opening goal of the game when he cut through 50 and kicked it straight through from 40. He had another 8-9 touches up through the center square and even times in transition at half back, demonstrating his work rate for a half forward. Kicked another point from about 50 after being awarded a holding the ball. Moving nicely and a very nice size for a 1st preseason rookie.

Shiels: Based on today he would be close to playing Rnd 1. He looks a general improvement on Jed to me. Had a ton of it, was directing teammates, was spreading all over the ground. Ball use was good. Will be a valuable 20-22 player imo.

Zurhaar: Got absolutely baked by Shiels and Cunners for burning them in transition. Then had one of the worst turnovers ever at half back that gifted the other side a goal. Zurhaar is a fantastic player on his day, but still an extremely selfish one. Can't see Clarko copping half of what he has gotten away with on field for the last few years.

Lienert will be a very very handy recruit for the VFL side, one we've needed for absolutely ages, he took CCJ, Free and Edwards at different stages.

Good insight. Only knock - Cunners won't be fighting for the 3rd midfield spot. That will be left to others.

 

[Sphynx]

Good insight. Only knock - Cunners won't be fighting for the 3rd midfield spot. That will be left to others.

ITK or personal opinion?

He was back to his brutal best at times at the coalface today and a player like that is really best at center bounces obviously.

If we are excluding Cunners from the conversation, the starting 4 should definitely be Goldy, LDU, Simpkin and Will Phil.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

Tarryn couldn’t get a lift to the ground?

 

[DesertRoo]

Probably why he has been moved back so quick. It's pretty clear clarko wants to fix the backline first and would want smart and elite ball users back there.

Yeah our transition has been pox, all we need now is a couple of players who can chase, pressure or tackle in the forward 50, so we have a chance of locking it in and we might win a few games of footy.

 

[Masked Avenger]

ITK or personal opinion?

He was back to his brutal best at times at the coalface today and a player like that is really best at center bounces obviously.

If we are excluding Cunners from the conversation, the starting 4 should definitely be Goldy, LDU, Simpkin and Will Phil.

Not excluding him. Cunners is our best midfielder. LDU getting close.

 

[Psicosis]

 

[Psicosis]

 

[zoomba23]

My observations, I watched about an hour of match sim:

Archer: Didn't do a lot, but he didn't need to, he was lined up against Mahoney who didn't really get near it. Archer had one nice play on the wing, he is moving well.

Bergman: Was playing for the yellows, didn't see much of it, but was at least out there and injury free.

CCJ: Thought Dawson had the better of him early, then he got off the chain slightly, including a 1 v 1 marking win which he slotted from 40.

Comben: Probably had a quieter day than he would have liked, but he is pretty close to a lock for Rnd 1, will take a heap of heat off of Larkey.

Cunners: Was close to BOG in the first quarter. He still can't move to well, but anywhere within 10m of the ball he's just a colossus. Took a few of his trademark overhead marks also, disposal by hand and foot all elite and a demonstration to his team mates how a top class footballer goes about it in possession.

Curtis: Probably my pick for this years breakout player. He's put on a massive amount of muscle for his size/position in one offseason and you can see the Samoan gene's coming through. I think it's pretty telling that Clarko is using him as the extra forward that moves into the center square rotations instead of someone like Zurhaar. He burrowed in, stood up in a tackle, rag dolled the person trying to defend him, to get the first clearance of the game. He then took a hanger 2 mins later. He's going to be a frightening hard matchup both physically and because of his skillset in 3-4 years, he's already bigger and more powerful than most small forwards getting around. Massive ceiling.

Dawson: He's a specimen and I think will be very very handy for the senior side at times during the year.

Drury: He couldn't have done any more or been more impressive. Probably had 15-20 touches off half back in the equivalent of a half of footy. Ran Cooper ragged and honestly treated him with a bit of contempt at times. Disposal over 15-30m is absolutely elite, he's sharp of skills and mind. Clearly has a big footy IQ as his running patterns to give and receive are all of 100+ gamer. He honestly might play more footy than Wardlaw this year, given the latters fitness base atm. Smoky for Rnd 1. I want to see him on some established half forwards in the preseason games.

Edwards: Might have put on some muscle, but was nowhere near it. Needs some pretty rapid improvement for this VFL season. His body size isn't the issue, it's his running patterns, aggressiveness going for the ball etc. He looks very much like a local footballer kid training with an AFL club, not a kid that's been there for 18 months already.

Ford: Took a nice pack mark and goaled. He would be hating what he was seeing from PC and Sheezel though, basically market corrected him.

Free: Hes a bit unco, but he has a bit about him. He beat Goldy in a boundary throw in and then spread which had Monky taking notice. X had the better of him here or there, he's still going to be a very solid addition to the VFL side.

Goater: He's just a specimen that needs 20+ games pumped into him today. His kicking was a little hit and miss, but he did hit an absolutely glorious 50m pass on his left to a leading player out of 50. Absolutely rinsed Comben in a marking contest when he sprung up and spoiled, landed on his feet, recoved and was gone before Comben even knew what had happened. Should be the starting HBF/Wing without a doubt.

Greenwood: Seems to be moving better and was a decent match for Cunners at times.

Cooper H: Probably wants to get home and go to sleep after today. He probably had 1-2 touches to Drury's 15-20. He got an absolute lesson today about the top level. Just because you are a forward, that doesn't make you the most damaging of you and your direct opponent. He sagged off thinking Drury would have to go with him and Drury just continually buried him moving the ball out of defense.

Howe: Rehab group

Larkey: Typical Nick, you know what you are going to get.

Lazzaro: Just don't know where he fits anymore, was lining up on Bailey and Bailey was one of the best on the ground. Better options in almost all of his positions.

Mahoney: See Lazzaro. Except he just didn't get near it much and Archer was patrolling him like a dour defender.

Perez: Was out there, but has some decent competition with Goater and Drury who were both better.

Phillips: Thought he and Simpkin shared the points and both were in the best 4-5 on the ground. Jy probably had slightly more of it, but was a bit diabolical with his footskills at times, where Will was surgical. He's a real point of difference with how well he uses it by foot vs Jy and even LDU. Showed good zip from stoppage but was Boomer like over 30-40m, hitting pretty much every one of his kicks lace out for the game. Will be interesting to see if Clarko starts Cunners or Will as the 3rd midfielder in March. I genuinely think he overtakes Jy in a few seasons, he's just a lot more damaging when he has it.

Powell: Bit more of the Powell of old. Was spreading nicely, got plenty of it up against Jy, Cunners and Shiels. Will be interesting if he starts the year in the AFL or VFL, he will absolutely obliterate the VFL if he has to play that level.

Bailey Scott: Rinsed Laz for most of the game, was all over the ground, close to BOG. Looks to be making strides on even his breakout year last year.

Sheezel: Kicked the opening goal of the game when he cut through 50 and kicked it straight through from 40. He had another 8-9 touches up through the center square and even times in transition at half back, demonstrating his work rate for a half forward. Kicked another point from about 50 after being awarded a holding the ball. Moving nicely and a very nice size for a 1st preseason rookie.

Shiels: Based on today he would be close to playing Rnd 1. He looks a general improvement on Jed to me. Had a ton of it, was directing teammates, was spreading all over the ground. Ball use was good. Will be a valuable 20-22 player imo.

Zurhaar: Got absolutely baked by Shiels and Cunners for burning them in transition. Then had one of the worst turnovers ever at half back that gifted the other side a goal. Zurhaar is a fantastic player on his day, but still an extremely selfish one. Can't see Clarko copping half of what he has gotten away with on field for the last few years.

Lienert will be a very very handy recruit for the VFL side, one we've needed for absolutely ages, he took CCJ, Free and Edwards at different stages.

Great summation mate. Love to hear that Cunners and Shiels were letting CZ know about his decision. That's how egos are reined in

 

[Ligma]

we are a family club, reminds me of when I started going to family days, those were the good days although I can barely remember them lol the stories my mum would tell me about how good they were to us

 

[rickety]

Agreed, anyone know anything about this? Implications etc.

Surfing, but ssshhh

 

[astrovic]

My observations, I watched about an hour of match sim:



Zurhaar: Got absolutely baked by Shiels and Cunners for burning them in transition. Then had one of the worst turnovers ever at half back that gifted the other side a goal. Zurhaar is a fantastic player on his day, but still an extremely selfish one. Can't see Clarko copping half of what he has gotten away with on field for the last few years.

Lienert will be a very very handy recruit for the VFL side, one we've needed for absolutely ages, he took CCJ, Free and Edwards at different stages.

Thanks for the awesome write up (FG too - much appreciated both!)

Oddly, your comments about Zurhaar getting baked might be the most encouraging of the lot. A few blokes losing some "sacred cow" mentality would be great right now, especially given the last couple of years the impression I've got is that the pre-season water bottles have generally been filed with our own bathwater.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Surfing, but ssshhh

Yeah, he can stay the **** out of the water until October thanks.

 

[speedy]

Yeah our transition has been pox, all we need now is a couple of players who can chase, pressure or tackle in the forward 50, so we have a chance of locking it in and we might win a few games of footy.

Well Zurhaar, Sleevo, Curtis & the Cheez are quick enough to put pressure on in the forward 50. It's all about the buy-in. I think one step before that is to make sure we don't get intercepted or out-marked going into the f50. A proper structure and a game plan will help with that.

 

[DuckYeah]

Mate this is getting me ****ing Horny as **** and I have 4 pages to go