Training Training Thread 2023

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Powell

 

[speedy]

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Is this photo playing tricks? Tommy looks like a very small human compared to Greenhead.

 

[benbanjo]

Is this photo playing tricks? Tommy looks like a very small human compared to Greenhead.

TP looks like Greenhead just shat him out.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Is this photo playing tricks? Tommy looks like a very small human compared to Greenhead.

Greenhead is 191 or something like that which is getting big for a mid.

They both look in awesome nick, I can’t wait what they look like in march after AC has driven them into the ground.

Hugh looks very lean. He may surprise a few with how much game time he plays in ‘23.

 

[Only Forwards]

I think this is in the ballpark. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jack to go back to the midfield with clear instruction to "clear the path".

Surprised this lever wasn’t pulled during the last season through the dark times with Noble.

 

[ferball]

Olli Hollands is described as a running machine and ready to destroy an AFL preseason. He ran a 5:54 2km at the combine

Sheezel finished basically on par with him in preseason testing and he’s at this stage a permanent forward.

Hopefully it puts it into perspective his work rate and why he gets so much of the ball as a permanent forward.

Also might illustrate how a guy can play one game in the middle for the year and notch up 37 touches.

Massive massive engine.

To put that in perspective Blicavs PB over 2km at the Cats is 5:39 and he missed Olympic qualifying for the 1500m by 6 seconds.

That time is nearly 2 minutes slower than his best 1500m times tho.

 

[ferball]

Is this photo playing tricks? Tommy looks like a very small human compared to Greenhead.

Powell is 7cm shorter and has his feet on the ground while Greenwood is at a higher point in stride. Probably another 5-7 cm because of that. That's about 6 inches in height.

I reckon Powell's arms and shoulders look like they are closer to Greenwood's size than they were last year tho. He must be adding some bulk.

 

[Mixed Results]

Surprised this lever wasn’t pulled during the last season through the dark times with Noble.

It's one of the many strange Noble moves. I think Clarkson has to look at Ziebell's form from last year and decide that it's either backline, midfielder, or VFL for him. People may not like his form in those positions, but up forward he was just about the worst senior player in the AFL last year.

Outside of his round 19, 17 and 4 games that he'd be happy with, he averaged 10.8 disposals and .5 goals in his other 13 games up forward. Turning 32 next year I'm not sure those numbers are getting any prettier.

 

[King Corey]

It's one of the many strange Noble moves. I think Clarkson has to look at Ziebell's form from last year and decide that it's either backline, midfielder, or VFL for him. People may not like his form in those positions, but up forward he was just about the worst senior player in the AFL last year.

Outside of his round 19, 17 and 4 games that he'd be happy with, he averaged 10.8 disposals and .5 goals in his other 13 games up forward. Turning 32 next year I'm not sure those numbers are getting any prettier.

That's again why I suspect Clarkson, who has shown a liking for "role players" in the past (aka hit men) will use Jack as a battering ram in the midfield and maybe a little bit up forward. It's hard to imagine him using Jack for any more critical roles like intercepting backman or 2nd/3rd forward.

There is also a chance Jack becomes a Malcolm Blight style statement and is pushed to the VFL after beng unable to fire in a 2023 senior spot as you suggest. But I don't think that rein would be pulled until 5+ weeks into the season largely out of respect.

 

[rickety]

Turns out it was the King of Rye after all. What a ripping young man ;-) We had a pretty good chat in the end, maybe 20 minutes - he's mates with 1 of my best mates sons ..... anyway. We covered a load of topics including the excitement of Clarko, the midfield minutes of last season, real estate and general well being. Has spent a bit of time surfing, as well as maintaining an interest in Rye FC. Sounded keen to spend his post AFL career "sitting in the goalsquare" on a saturday and spending the rest of his time surfing :-D Even told him that I'd backed him for the Brownlow

And, I am quite happy to tell, he is moving quite smoothly. This bloke was deadset gliding around the ground.

 

[the flying ham]

That's again why I suspect Clarkson, who has shown a liking for "role players" in the past (aka hit men) will use Jack as a battering ram in the midfield and maybe a little bit up forward. It's hard to imagine him using Jack for any more critical roles like intercepting backman or 2nd/3rd forward.

There is also a chance Jack becomes a Malcolm Blight style statement and is pushed to the VFL after beng unable to fire in a 2023 senior spot as you suggest. But I don't think that rein would be pulled until 5+ weeks into the season largely out of respect.

He may not play round 1. I personally think he will play some senior footy, have a couple spells in the vfl and pull up stumps at years end. I don't think there will be some grand plan to put him to pasture early, if he is good enough he will play. Tipping that won't be every week though.

 

[Tas]

We are still the skinniest team in the AFL i think. I suppose its not everything (athleticism, speed, endurance etc) but as ive said before the physical intimidation is something we should at least increase going forward

I could handle being skinny if we were lightning fast and agile, but we are not.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I could handle being skinny if we were lightning fast and agile, but we are not.

Taylor has the deadly combination of lack of strength plus lack of athleticism.

 

[Del191229]

That's again why I suspect Clarkson, who has shown a liking for "role players" in the past (aka hit men) will use Jack as a battering ram in the midfield and maybe a little bit up forward. It's hard to imagine him using Jack for any more critical roles like intercepting backman or 2nd/3rd forward.

There is also a chance Jack becomes a Malcolm Blight style statement and is pushed to the VFL after beng unable to fire in a 2023 senior spot as you suggest. But I don't think that rein would be pulled until 5+ weeks into the season largely out of respect.

I reckon Jack could lean into a bit of unsociable footy in his twilight years. You come for one of our kids, Jack will let you know about it and wear the week or two off.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

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TP looks like he's about to do an ankle on that stride. One of those "Moments before disaster" pictures.

 

[Footywizard]

Taylor has the deadly combination of lack of strength plus lack of athleticism.

Dunno about this...he's definatly athletic. Extremely competitive, just hasn't got a defined role as yet. If he had one role to concentrate on he'd blossom.

 

[Makeshift Park]

That time is nearly 2 minutes slower than his best 1500m times tho.

Yeah a 6min 2km isn't that fast when we're talking about someone aspiring to be an elite runner.

A 3.43 1500m is pretty respectable though.

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[Tas]

Taylor has the deadly combination of lack of strength plus lack of athleticism.

He has talent though, he just needs to add AFL standard physique to his toolkit.

 

[ferball]

Yeah a 6min 2km isn't that fast when we're talking about someone aspiring to be an elite runner.

A 3.43 1500m is pretty respectable though.

LOL its ****en flying.

But ... its under 75 seconds for each 500m. Then to cruise in at 5.39 for 2km that last 500m takes over 110 seconds, nearly 120. I think Blicavs should have a 2km time close to 5:20 or 5:15 or else he's bludging.

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Taylor has the deadly combination of lack of strength plus lack of athleticism.

say what?

sure, he could bulk up, but curtis has both sat on heads and runs himself into the ground each and every week. athleticism certainly isn't an issue with him

 

[New_Roo]

Greenhead is 191 or something like that which is getting big for a mid.

They both look in awesome nick, I can’t wait what they look like in march after AC has driven them into the ground.

Hugh looks very lean. He may surprise a few with how much game time he plays in ‘23.

Good to see him with no tape on either... hopefully runs easier this year and not as if there is a stone in his boot....


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[Makeshift Park]

LOL its *en flying.

But ... its under 75 seconds for each 500m. Then to cruise in at 5.39 for 2km that last 500m takes over 110 seconds, nearly 120. I think Blicavs should have a 2km time close to 5:20 or 5:15 or else he's bludging.

Yeah, what a slouch.

Incidentally, today I was thinking a bit about the mature bodies that we're trading in, and those that are getting mentioned in relation to us, and it does seem like being a good runner is a bit of a common thread.

Tucker covered more distance on average per game than any other Fremantle player in 2021: 13.23km.
Logue is one of the fastest sprinters in the entire comp, obtaining speeds in excess of 35km/h.
In a team with a pretty formidable reputation for fitness, Liam Shiels was their second fastest runner over 2.2km just before their threepeat.
Even Daniel Howe racks up the kms pretty well, nearly cracking 15kms in a single game.

EDIT: fixed shiels link

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

say what?

sure, he could bulk up, but curtis has both sat on heads and runs himself into the ground each and every week. athleticism certainly isn't an issue with him

Agility, acceleration, strength are all below average.

Can not be persisted with if he can’t consistently win 1v1 contests.

 

[William Caresser]

Dunno about this...he's definatly athletic. Extremely competitive, just hasn't got a defined role as yet. If he had one role to concentrate on he'd blossom.

Curtis Taylor was one of our very few players who was running 15km week in week out last year.

 

[Nylex]

Dunno about this...he's definatly athletic. Extremely competitive, just hasn't got a defined role as yet. If he had one role to concentrate on he'd blossom.

Has the toolkit to be a high quality half forward flanker.