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His kicking for goal in recent times and the hack kicks from the contest have coloured peoples perception towards Jack's kicking. With time and space he is an excellent kick, both with penetration and with touch.
Exactly this. When busting out of the midfield, under pressure he tends to hack it and dump it on the boot

When he slows down and takes that extra 2-3 seconds he has a nice kick
 

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Exactly this. When busting out of the midfield, under pressure he tends to hack it and dump it on the boot

When he slows down and takes that extra 2-3 seconds he has a nice kick
Pretty sure there’s pressure in the back line too.
See how we go when things go up a few notches, with a team full of coordinated, high quality, quick opposition.
 

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FMD, if only Jack had some Tarryn Thomas supporters. :D
 

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Pretty sure there’s pressure in the back line too.
See how we go when things go up a few notches, with a team full of coordinated, high quality, quick opposition.
That's a reasonable point, but I'm guessing he'll have a fair few more disposals than usual being the result of marks in the back half or kickouts, which are when we should see him thrive in regards to disposal. Doubly so given the rule changes.

Personally I'm just glad we're seeing what we are from him right now. Those skilled penetrative kicks, and intercept/contested marking, are still in his arsenal. Zero reason he can't bring them to the fore in the real thing. Full steam ahead with operation Defender as far as I'm concerned.
 

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It’s preseason - good signs from Jack but let’s see when he’s got 3-4 speedsters pressuring him

Mason wood was a Brownlow winner by preseason ability.
 

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It’s preseason - good signs from Jack but let’s see when he’s got 3-4 speedsters pressuring him

Mason wood was a Brownlow winner by preseason ability.
It's like when Melbourne supporters were cheering that Ben Brown kicked six in a half in a praccy... guys, that's your defence.
 

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Jacks kicking is fine when it's instinctive. In fact it's bordering on elite.

When he gets overly methodical and systematic, then the frays appear.
His first instinct when he had any ounce of pressure is to throw it on the boot and barrel it forward. When he was playing in the middle his kicking when at the coal face was under 12’s garbage.

It’s when he has time and space that his kicking is fine if not excellent. Problem is because he is as slow as treacle he never found that space in the midfield.

It is going to be interesting to see how he goes when he has someone like Charlie Cameron piling on the pressure
 

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His first instinct when he had any ounce of pressure is to throw it on the boot and barrel it forward. When he was playing in the middle his kicking when at the coal face was under 12’s garbage.

It’s when he has time and space that his kicking is fine if not excellent. Problem is because he is as slow as treacle he never found that space in the midfield.

It is going to be interesting to see how he goes when he has someone like Charlie Cameron piling on the pressure
Invent all the conformation bias you like. It has no effect on my view.
 

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Invent all the conformation bias you like. It has no effect on my view.
No confirmation bias at all. Perhaps it is you that suffers confirmation bias with the fact that you don’t see that his decision making and subsequent skill was below average when he was playing as a midfielder?

As I said he is a solid to excellent field kick when he has time and space but that is a rare thing when you are playing in the backline.

I’d much prefer McDonald and Tazz (similar to the role Thommo played in his last few years) distributing the footy from the back half.
 

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No confirmation bias at all. Perhaps it is you that suffers confirmation bias with the fact that you don’t see that his decision making and subsequent skill was below average when he was playing as a midfielder?

As I said he is a solid to excellent field kick when he has time and space but that is a rare thing when you are playing in the backline.

I’d much prefer McDonald and Tazz (similar to the role Thommo played in his last few years) distributing the footy from the back half.
I don't agree or care for your opinion on the matter. It has no effect on my view.
 

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