Transfer discussion thread

[FAITH]

Luk went for 90m and most on here thought he was worth it.
Cout us a much better player but you don't think he is worth more?

 

[Zidane98]

PL all time.

Am I seeing a trend with this ?

 

[pantskyle]

Am I seeing a trend with this ?

I don't know, are you?

 

[glenferry23]

Am I seeing a trend with this ?

Manchester clubs?

 

[Zidane98]

For me the practice of signing footballers purely as investments needs to be regulated or stopped. Unethical and used to dodge FFP (amortization not on your FFP books while your player is out on loan).

Have no problem with a player being signed with a view to eventually playing for the club that bought him.

I believe that any new signing should not allowed to be loaned out for the first season of their contract. That should sort out which deals are genuine in their intent of developing a player and which ones are done purely to sell a player at a profit. After that first season loaning should be allowed.

 

[pantskyle]

For me the practice of signing footballers purely as investments needs to be regulated or stopped. Unethical and used to dodge FFP (amortization not on your FFP books while your player is out on loan).

Have no problem with a player being signed with a view to eventually playing for the club that bought him.

I believe that any new signing should not allowed to be loaned out for the first season of their contract. That should sort out which deals are genuine in their intent of developing a player and which ones are done purely to sell a player at a profit. After that first season loaning should be allowed.

Well technically it is in places where third party ownership isn't allowed, however the "farming" of players is really not something that can be stopped or even policed.

It happens, deal with it.

 

[Genesis67]

Luk went for 90m and most on here thought he was worth it.
Cout us a much better player but you don't think he is worth more?

You're always going to overpay for strikers though. There just aren't that many top class strikers going around. Is Lukaku's skill-set better than Coutinho's? No, probably not. Does he have a history of banging in goals? Yup. That adds a premium.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Again, what he's actually worth and what clubs would have to spend to get him are two different things.

I really don't understand why so many have struggled to grasp that concept...

Exactly. Is Mbappe worth £160m? Hell no, but if you want him that's what you're going to have to pay.

 

[pantskyle]

You're always going to overpay for strikers though. There just aren't that many top class strikers going around. Is Lukaku's skill-set better than Coutinho's? No, probably not. Does he have a history of banging in goals? Yup. That adds a premium.

If it was a normal poster the comparison of Lukaku to Coutinho would raise many eyebrows, but because it is our resident troll we just move on.

 

[FAITH]

Haha salty united supporter in denial

 

[chef]

For me the practice of signing footballers purely as investments needs to be regulated or stopped. Unethical and used to dodge FFP (amortization not on your FFP books while your player is out on loan).

Have no problem with a player being signed with a view to eventually playing for the club that bought him.

I believe that any new signing should not allowed to be loaned out for the first season of their contract. That should sort out which deals are genuine in their intent of developing a player and which ones are done purely to sell a player at a profit. After that first season loaning should be allowed.

Its not going to make any difference for us, the majority of our loan army has been at the club 5-10 years before getting their first loan.

 

[Established1870]

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[Established1870]

Also:

http://www.espnfc.com.au/tottenham-...nding-in-premier-league-totally-unsustainable

Take it from me or someone who supports Leeds/Rangers, he's not wrong at all.

 

[Jatz]

Also:

http://www.espnfc.com.au/tottenham-...nding-in-premier-league-totally-unsustainable

Take it from me or someone who supports Leeds/Rangers, he's not wrong at all.

He might not be wrong with that but it's also not sustainable to allow rivals to continually gain advantages on you if you want to try and win things. If he's happy just making sure the club is financially strong without necessarily winning anything, then he's doing a superb job.

 

[pantskyle]

Haha salty united supporter in denial

In denial about what?

To compare Coutinho (mid) with Lukaku (striker) is stupid. But if you want to then the player scoring 20+ goals a year is always going to be worth more than the midfielder who doesn't come close to that.

It's science.

 

[SM]

Also:

http://www.espnfc.com.au/tottenham-...nding-in-premier-league-totally-unsustainable

Take it from me or someone who supports Leeds/Rangers, he's not wrong at all.

Basically the point I was making the other day.

 

[SM]

He might not be wrong with that but it's also not sustainable to allow rivals to continually gain advantages on you if you want to try and win things. If he's happy just making sure the club is financially strong without necessarily winning anything, then he's doing a superb job.

They finished second last season, I don't think there's anything wrong with what he's doing. Everyone expected them to drop off and they didn't. This season will be the interesting one.

One point though - he says at the end the attraction is that if a player does well, Spurs offer them a better contract. While I think that's admirable, would Spurs tear up a contract and offer a worse one if the player has a terrible season?

 

[Jatz]

They finished second last season, I don't think there's anything wrong with what he's doing. Everyone expected them to drop off and they didn't. This season will be the interesting one.

One point though - he says at the end the attraction is that if a player does well, Spurs offer them a better contract. While I think that's admirable, would Spurs tear up a contract and offer a worse one if the player has a terrible season?

They may have but how long do you think the United's and City's of the league will continue to perform poorly when spending the coin they are? In the next couple of seasons, you would expect them to be challenging for the title. If Spurs don't spend more money, I just don't see how they can continue to perform at that rate.

 

[FAITH]

In denial about what?

To compare Coutinho (mid) with Lukaku (striker) is stupid. But if you want to then the player scoring 20+ goals a year is always going to be worth more than the midfielder who doesn't come close to that.

It's science.

um you can compare the value of 2 players, they dont have to play the exact same position.
stop being a bias moron.

 

[SM]

They may have but how long do you think the United's and City's of the league will continue to perform poorly when spending the coin they are? In the next couple of seasons, you would expect them to be challenging for the title. If Spurs don't spend more money, I just don't see how they can continue to perform at that rate.

You would expect them to but that won't necessarily be the case. You of all people should know that money doesn't always equal success, and that a strong core group of players with the right tactics can be successful.

 

[Jatz]

You would expect them to but that won't necessarily be the case. You of all people should know that money doesn't always equal success, and that a strong core group of players with the right tactics can be successful.

I do know that - but let's not kid ourselves, we only won that season because all of the big clubs were terrible in the same season. Even then, Spurs couldn't get it done.

I only see it getting more and more difficult tbh.

 

[pantskyle]

um you can compare the value of 2 players, they dont have to play the exact same position.
stop being a bias moron.

Of course you can compare the value of two players but you're not going to get the good comparison based on two different positions entirely are you?

Not sure what the bias is either, I haven't commented on what I think Coutinho is worth, and to get it right, Lukaku cost 75m, not 90m.

This is where your posting fails, it's brainless drivel.

 

[FAITH]

 

[typeclub]

If Barca breaks the record for Coutinho it will be even more embarrassing than when the record was broken for Pogba. Even with inflated market the record shouldn't be broken for shit players who will never be the best in the world.

 

[typeclub]

Danilo confirmed he rejected Chelsea chef. Your club was desperate to sign him but he said once City swooped in he snubbed you.