Transfer discussion thread

[Sozabarus]

This isn't the Liverpool fan being anti-Everton for the sake of it but I just don't see how they bridge the gap next season when they're about to lose their 25 goal striker who is also their best player by a mile.

So far they've spent that money on a decent keeper with potential and a centre-back who's had one good season playing for an ultra defensive side. They're good signings but not the type that would have the top 6 worried. I know exactly what jod is getting at when he says 'typical Everton signing'. Typical in that they're at a fairly similar level to what they have and will do a job but probably aren't going to take them to the next level.

 

[chef]

Not sure either are trolling, they just disagree with you.

 

[SM]

This isn't the Liverpool fan being anti-Everton for the sake of it but I just don't see how they bridge the gap next season when they're about to lose their 25 goal striker who is also their best player by a mile.

So far they've spent that money on a decent keeper with potential and a centre-back who's had one good season playing for an ultra defensive side. They're good signings but not the type that would have the top 6 worried. I know exactly what jod is getting at when he says 'typical Everton signing'. Typical in that they're at a fairly similar level to what they have and will do a job but probably aren't going to take them to the next level.

You're forgetting Sandro and Klaassen.

 

[SM]

Not sure either are trolling, they just disagree with you.

I was joking about Pants.

Jod admitted to trolling on the previous page.

 

[largebus]

Keane is a definite upgrade from Stones

 

[Sozabarus]

You're forgetting Sandro and Klaassen.

Probably as replacements for Lukaku and Barkley. If so then they're both downgrades imo.

If they keep Lukaku then yes they will have had a seriously good window, but I think this spending spree is down to the fact they know he's off.

 

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

Tuesday's Newspapers
04/07/2017

DAILY RECORD

Gareth Bale could be on the verge of a sensational return to the English Premier League with Manchester United - if Real Madrid can tempt teenage sensation Kylian Mbappe to the Bernabeau.

DAILY MIRROR

Diego Costa is holding up Chelsea's Romelu Lukaku transfer after refusing move to China.

Jose Mourinho is growing increasingly frustrated at Man United's lack of activity during the summer transfer window.

Naby Keita has told RB Leipzig he has his 'heart is set on a Liverpool move', says Titi Camara.

Everton are preparing a £20m bid for Arsenal striker Olivier Giroud as interest in Frenchman hots up.

Southampton are playing hardball on Ryan Bertrand and are determined not to sell him this summer.

West Ham are in talks with Javier Hernandez over a £13m move to the London Stadium.

THE SUN

Arsene Wenger will stage crisis talks with Alexis Sanchez and Hector Bellerin this week.

Leicester City could let Kasper Schmeichel exit for Manchester United if they can tie up a deal for Croatia keeper Lovre Kalinic.

DAILY TELEGRAPH

Chelsea have indicated they are willing to pay a club-record £60 million to land Juventus left-back Alex Sandro.

THE INDEPENDENT

Benfica forward Raul Jimenez has insisted he is open to a Premier League move amid reported interest from Liverpool and West Ham, and refused to 'close the doors' on his future.

DAILY STAR

Manchester United have snapped up former Chelsea academy defender Di'Shon Bernard.

THE GUARDIAN

Jose Mourinho is becoming increasingly frustrated at so far adding only Victor Lindelof to his squad in the transfer window, with the Manchester United manager concerned no more major signings will be in place when the pre-season tour starts on Sunday.

Crystal Palace have been priced out of a move for Mamadou Sakho with the club's new manager, Frank de Boer, confident he can recruit up to five players for a combined outlay close to Liverpool's £30m asking price for the France defender.

THE TIMES

Everton want to sign Olivier Giroud from Arsenal to bolster their attack in the expectation that Romelu Lukaku will leave Goodison Park, with Chelsea and Manchester United leading the chase for the Belgium striker.

DAILY MAIL

Monaco have signed Feyenoord defender Terence Kongolo in a deal that could trigger Benjamin Mendy's protracted £39m move to Manchester City.

Manchester United have signed teenage Belgian striker Largie Ramazani from Charlton Athletic.

Wolves have agreed a £14m deal for Porto midfielder Ruben Neves.

Ravel Morrison is training with Birmingham as parent club Lazio look to offload the midfielder.

DAILY EXPRESS

Paris Saint-Germain midfielder Marco Verratti will commit a 'light rebellion' in a bid to seal a transfer to Barcelona.

 

[SM]

Probably as replacements for Lukaku and Barkley. If so then they're both downgrades imo.

If they keep Lukaku then yes they will have had a seriously good window, but I think this spending spree is down to the fact they know he's off.

Also due to europa commitments and not wanting to repeat mistakes.

 

[Greendogg5]

Matthias Ginter to Gladbach to be announced today, fee is supposed to be around 17mil euro.
https://www.borussia.de/de/aktuelle...=26111&cHash=c77c2e2fcd1f75e6578ff12dc125ae9a

 

[NUFC Tiger]

We've just signed Florian Lejeune from Eibar. Sounds like a good addition.

Not sure how his surname is pronounced but I hope he can become a bit of a 'Lejeune' (legend) of the Rafalution... (sorry, long day at work haha).

 

[Magma]

2015. we buy lejeune for 250k
2016. we sell lejeune for 1.2 mil
2017. newcastle buy lejeune for 8.5 mil.

 

[jd2010]

Probably as replacements for Lukaku and Barkley. If so then they're both downgrades imo.

If they keep Lukaku then yes they will have had a seriously good window, but I think this spending spree is down to the fact they know he's off.

Individually they're a downgrade on Lukaku but so too are Kane, Eriksen, Son and Alli to Bale but when you strengthen buying multiple guys rather than relying on one star it can be better off long term. Lukaku can't do any more for them than he already has and what's it gotten them? They've used his money to strengthen GK, CB and AM whilst signing a highly rated ST and probably will bring in a more proven one too. Doubt they'll sell Barkley btw

 

[largebus]

You're forgetting Sandro and Klaassen.

Assuming Lukaku and Barkley leave both will need to put up 10-15 goals for a top 4 push.
Not unfeasible by itself but probably need others like Davies, Mirallas etc to "chip in" more if they want to progress from last year.

 

[SM]

Assuming Lukaku and Barkley leave both will need to put up 10-15 goals for a top 4 push.
Not unfeasible by itself but probably need others like Davies, Mirallas etc to "chip in" more if they want to progress from last year.

They'll likely bring in someone like giroud too.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

This isn't the Liverpool fan being anti-Everton for the sake of it but I just don't see how they bridge the gap next season when they're about to lose their 25 goal striker who is also their best player by a mile.

So far they've spent that money on a decent keeper with potential and a centre-back who's had one good season playing for an ultra defensive side. They're good signings but not the type that would have the top 6 worried. I know exactly what jod is getting at when he says 'typical Everton signing'. Typical in that they're at a fairly similar level to what they have and will do a job but probably aren't going to take them to the next level.

Anything's possible, Leicester taught us all that but I too can't see them bridging the gap. 5th or 6th is one of those above has a 15/16 Chelsea meltdown. They were ~10pts adrift of 6th this season weren't they?

 

[elhadjihenry]

Matthias Ginter to Gladbach to be announced today, fee is supposed to be around 17mil euro.
https://www.borussia.de/de/aktuelles-termine/news/borussia-news/news-detailansicht.html?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=26111&cHash=c77c2e2fcd1f75e6578ff12dc125ae9a

Spurs SNUBBED

 

[Sozabarus]

Individually they're a downgrade on Lukaku but so too are Kane, Eriksen, Son and Alli to Bale but when you strengthen buying multiple guys rather than relying on one star it can be better off long term. Lukaku can't do any more for them than he already has and what's it gotten them? They've used his money to strengthen GK, CB and AM whilst signing a highly rated ST and probably will bring in a more proven one too. Doubt they'll sell Barkley btw

Yeah but you guys also hit the jackpot in that you had a world class striker coming up through the ranks which softened the blow massively. That's Bale's goals replaced right there.

Who are Everton going to sign that will be able to make up even 80% of the difference in terms of goals? Will be difficult.

Anything's possible, Leicester taught us all that but I too can't see them bridging the gap. 5th or 6th is one of those above has a 15/16 Chelsea meltdown. They were ~10pts adrift of 6th this season weren't they?

They finished 8 points off I think and that's with United putting their eggs in the Europa League basket towards the end. They also had an amazing home record last season which will be hard to replicate. But I guess the obvious answer to that is to improve their away form.

Everton are definitely going to be one of the most intriguing teams going in to next season. If they can get some momentum up early on then I guess anything's possible.

 

[largebus]

Anything's possible, Leicester taught us all that but I too can't see them bridging the gap. 5th or 6th is one of those above has a 15/16 Chelsea meltdown. They were ~10pts adrift of 6th this season weren't they?

Only scenario they get top 4 really is if 3 of the teams have Chelsea like **** ups

 

[Cooldude]

Koeman will park the bus most games so Keane will fit in just fine

 

[chef]

With Kasey Palmer extending his Chelsea contract by 4 years he should be off to Huddersfield again on loan. They are also trying to buy Izzy Brown for £8m

 

[jod23]

What I said was fact.

What I said was also fact. I was being serious. Neither Pickford or Keane would be first XI at Liverpool.

 

[pantskyle]

What I said was also fact. I was being serious. Neither Pickford or Keane would be first XI at Liverpool.

Are you asking me out?

 

[jd2010]

Yeah but you guys also hit the jackpot in that you had a world class striker coming up through the ranks which softened the blow massively. That's Bale's goals replaced right there.

Who are Everton going to sign that will be able to make up even 80% of the difference in terms of goals? Will be difficult.



They finished 8 points off I think and that's with United putting their eggs in the Europa League basket towards the end. They also had an amazing home record last season which will be hard to replicate. But I guess the obvious answer to that is to improve their away form.

Everton are definitely going to be one of the most intriguing teams going in to next season. If they can get some momentum up early on then I guess anything's possible.

I'm assuming they do sign a Hernandez or Giroud. So one of them + Klassen + Sandro should get them the goals to cover Lukaku. The two they've already signed are upgrades on guys like Kone and Mirrales and Lennon by that much that the step down from Lukaku to Giroud should be ok.

Then add in the fact they've massively upgraded on Steklenburg and Keane is a CB that should allow them to play 3 at the back with 2 of Williams, Jagielka and Fuenes Mori. If anyone doesn't think they're doing well in closing that gap or at the very least improving has rocks in their head

 

[pantskyle]

United only 48hrs away from announcing that they'll be announcing a player within 48hrs.

 

[Sozabarus]

I'm assuming they do sign a Hernandez or Giroud. So one of them + Klassen + Sandro should get them the goals to cover Lukaku. The two they've already signed are upgrades on guys like Kone and Mirrales and Lennon by that much that the step down from Lukaku to Giroud should be ok.

Then add in the fact they've massively upgraded on Steklenburg and Keane is a CB that should allow them to play 3 at the back with 2 of Williams, Jagielka and Fuenes Mori. If anyone doesn't think they're doing well in closing that gap or at the very least improving has rocks in their head

I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that if they sell Lukaku the gap between them and whoever finishes 6th will increase from the 8 points it was last season.

Either that or they get less than the 61 points they got last season.