Transfer discussion thread

[charcoalchicken]

I'd say the rose tinted glasses ain't on me but on those who has an obsession against all things Liverpool, and anyone who knows me around these parts knows I have anything but rose tinted glasses about my own club

If Coutinho isn't a Liverpool player you people would be going on about him like a pork chop. 30 mil, lol

nah, not really.

Coutinho is a decent player I'll grant you that but it seems Liverpool supporters overrate the guy massively.

He's above average, that's pretty much as good as it gets for him imo. Certainly not "world class" as some liverpool supporters would have you to believe.

 

[Latro]

Take off those rose-coloured glasses mate, 30 mill was being generous aswell, being fair because Liverpool rely on him so much.

Coutinho is worth more than 30 million.

If Sigurdsson is worth 50 million Coutinho is worth 250 million.

 

[Cooldude]

nah, not really.

Coutinho is a decent player I'll grant you that but it seems Liverpool supporters overrate the guy massively.

He's above average, that's pretty much as good as it gets for him imo. Certainly not "world class" as some liverpool supporters would have you to believe.

Where did anyone mention "world class" and Coutinho so far? Take off those rose tinted glasses

He performed better than Ozil last season, so is Ozil worth 20 mil?

Coutinho is worth more than 30 million.

If Sigurdsson is worth 50 million Coutinho is worth 250 million.

Ding ding ding, hyperbole but someone who has some sense rather than blind bias against Liverpool

 

[Jatz]

I don't even know why anyone would compare Coutinho and Pogba...

It's all academic at the end of the day anyway. The players are all worth different amounts to different clubs. The only valuation that matters is Liverpool's because they currently own the player.

 

[SM]

Coutinho is worth more than 30 million.

If Sigurdsson is worth 50 million Coutinho is worth 250 million.

Sigurdsson isn't worth 50 million.

 

[pantskyle]

Coutinho is worth more than 30 million.

If Sigurdsson is worth 50 million Coutinho is worth 250 million.

Sigurdsson isn't worth 50 million though, that's just what Swansea want, Liverpool, rightfully would ask for 100m for Coutinho.

 

[Loonerty]

Worth should be based on the player's Twitter game.

Bakayoko and Michy were steals at ~30m each.

 

[RPCB]

I love how everyone has their own estimates of what a player is worth (unless you all look at transfermarkt.com more than you should). Example, Kyle walker was called a £25M player on here and lo and behold, he's estimated at £25M https://www.transfermarkt.com/kyle-walker/profil/spieler/95424

The best RB in the league is worth £25M because a website says he is and we take it as gospel? The best anything in the Premier League should be worth more than someone like ****ing Otamendi.

I also challenge anyone who claims to watch more Premier League football than just the highlights to watch Coutinho play. He's a great footballer and if Liverpool get £70-80M for him, it's not silly money.

 

[Cooldude]

I'd put Ozil at 25-30 range

Which would be silly, Ozil is worth far more

 

[kangaspurs]

You were talking about his value in the inflated market, not whatever you think he's actually worth. I merely pointed out that his output is beyond Pogba, and so it'd at least be equal to a Pogba fee or more, but then you go on about some guy who has worse stats in the French league being better than Coutinho.

If some shit like Walker is worth 50 mil then Coutinho is easily worth double in this market, not only 10 mil more like you think

Oh it isn't the first time you keep going on about Coutinho, remembered you comparing him to Bolasie at some point

Value and worth are synonyms in this respect from where I'm coming from. And the inflated market is surely assumed as that is the market. I'm confused why my choice of words is an issue here.

Haha you can't be serious? Coutinho's output is absolutely nowhere near Pogba's output in the seasons at Juve before he moved to United. Which is the output that got him the move and as such what should be considered, not his output after the move.

But Walker is not worth 50m. I've already said that a few times. More like 25m. But, again, value/worth and what is asked/offered are not the same thing. People overpay and underpay for commodities all the time dependent on a whole host of factors.

Haha if I did say that I'd love a quotation. And if I did I'm almost certain it would have been a troll. Bolasie is ****ing garbage haha.

Coutinho is worth more than 30 million.

If Sigurdsson is worth 50 million Coutinho is worth 250 million.

But Sigurdsson isn't worth 50m in the market. That's just what Swansea want for him as it's arguably what he's worth to them. They're two different things.

 

[SM]

Even in terms of what clubs value their players at, Coutinho would be sold for around 100m, not 160m.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If some shit like Walker is worth 50 mil then Coutinho is easily worth double in this market, not only 10 mil more like you think

Coutinho worth £100m

Eriksen must be £120m+ then on that delusional scale.

 

[go you pups]

he w looked pretty established in the champions league last year

French league is nothing on EPL

Silva could end up a better player than Coutinho, but Coutinho should be worth more than him at the moment.


Anyways, Monaco will fleece anyone who comes after their best prospects now, they're a selling club with limited opportunities to raid top teams from top 6 leagues other than their own and Portugal and Serie A/La Liga midtable clubs who never/rarely play in Europe (pretty sure they've done deals with Genoa, Torino and Bologna over the last 5 years). When you're constantly selling your best off their comes a tipping point, Monaco has hit that point right now in this window.

Imo City should target someone else for the LB role, not Mendy, otherwise another world record fee for a defender will be broken after a long, drawn out transfer saga.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Sigurdsson isn't worth 50 million though, that's just what Swansea want, Liverpool, rightfully would ask for 100m for Coutinho.

Would you say though that to Swansea he's worth more than that?
Along with Llorente he's worth their PL money.

 

[go you pups]

Coutinho worth £100m

Eriksen must be £120m+ then on that delusional scale.

In this current market yes definitely

Kane is probably 140+

 

[Art Vandelay_]

In this current market yes definitely

Kane is probably 140+

Nah. No way he's worth that, they may only sell him for that though (with a long contract).

 

[pantskyle]

Would you say though that to Swansea he's worth more than that?
Along with Llorente he's worth their PL money.

I think they really should sell at 40m, they can improve themselves with 2-3 players with that.

 

[typeclub]

Barca can't afford Coutinho until they get some money laundered for Neymar from their Qatari friends. At that point they'd be better off buying top players like Veratti and Dembele

 

[Cooldude]

Value and worth are synonyms in this respect from where I'm coming from. And the inflated market is surely assumed as that is the market. I'm confused why my choice of words is an issue here.

Haha you can't be serious? Coutinho's output is absolutely nowhere near Pogba's output in the seasons at Juve before he moved to United. Which is the output that got him the move and as such what should be considered, not his output after the move.

But Walker is not worth 50m. I've already said that a few times. More like 25m. But, again, value/worth and what is asked/offered are not the same thing. People overpay and underpay for commodities all the time dependent on a whole host of factors.

Haha if I did say that I'd love a quotation. And if I did I'm almost certain it would have been a troll. Bolasie is ******* garbage haha.


But Sigurdsson isn't worth 50m in the market. That's just what Swansea want for him as it's arguably what he's worth to them. They're two different things.

You were talking about players value in the inflated market, not worth, not sure why you keep going on about that, what we think a player is worth means **** all nowadays.

You think Coutinho is worth 60-70 mil in this inflated market, same market that has priced Walker at 50 mil, I called bs on that is all. Not sure why you have to go on such lengths to overcomplicate it.

Pogba, 8 goals and 13 assists in the Serie A before moving to Man Utd? The same Serie A that has a 31 year old Dzeko scoring 30 league goals. Coutinho doesn't have the luxury of playing for the most dominant side in the league like Pogba did as well. I'm glad you jump off the Bernardo Silva train though, that wasn't a goer

Last I'll say about it though, obviously you have your own fixed opinion about Coutinho so no use going on about it

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...-rumour-thread.1122861/page-501#post-45995863

 

[Cooldude]

In this current market yes definitely

Kane is probably 140+

Even Pups is speaking more sense than the other bloody spurs fans

 

[go you pups]

Nah. No way he's worth that, they may only sell him for that though (with a long contract).

True he's not worth that, but in this current market you're looking at that for their clubs to sell

Starting 11 players at the right age should always be worth more than squad types

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I think they really should sell at 40m, they can improve themselves with 2-3 players with that.

Quite possibly, if you were a Swansea fan would you be confident the club does that though.

Sold Bony and apart from Sigurdsson in a swap deal didn't buy a lot of quality.
Sold Shelvey and apart from Ayew free bought not much.
Sold Ayew and got Llorente and not much else.

Seem to get one decent player to replace the player they've lost that merely keeps them around the same spot hovering above the relegation zone.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

True he's not worth that, but in this current market you're looking at that for their clubs to sell

Starting 11 players at the right age should always be worth more than squad types

That's all well and good but this started with Meltdude laughing at the suggestion that's what he was worth, clear distinction with selling cost.

 

[pantskyle]

Quite possibly, if you were a Swansea fan would you be confident the club does that though.

Sold Bony and apart from Sigurdsson in a swap deal didn't buy a lot of quality.
Sold Shelvey and apart from Ayew free bought not much.
Sold Ayew and got Llorente and not much else.

Seem to get one decent player to replace the player they've lost that merely keeps them around the same spot hovering above the relegation zone.

I don't care about Swansea mate, I care about the money I have on Sigurdsson to Everton.

 

[Established1870]

Imo City should target someone else for the LB role, not Mendy, otherwise another world record fee for a defender will be broken after a long, drawn out transfer saga.

Monaco don't want to sell Mendy or Lemar because they're Mbappe's best friends there and as I've said before, they want to keep him. Keeping his mates around (who aren't bad players either) helps with that.