Transfer discussion thread

[FAITH]

Football's going mad. Nowhere near the calibre for a world record fee let alone world record by some margin.

Didn't hear anyone complaining bout the 90m manure paid for luk.
Court is a much more valuable player than luk so 100m min seems about right.

 

[kangaspurs]

Didn't hear anyone complaining bout the 90m manure paid for luk.
Court is a much more valuable player than luk so 100m min seems about right.

I'd take Lukaku's 20 goals a season over Coutinho's occasional worldy every day of the week, thanks.

 

[FAITH]

I'd take Lukaku's 20 goals a season over Coutinho's occasional worldy every day of the week, thanks.

Only manure fans would agree with you.

 

[jod23]

Kike Marin (El Confidencial), usually fairly reliable for Barcelona news from memory, just had this to say:

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Coutinho has met with Klopp and has told him that if the #Liverpool don't want to sell him to the #FCBarcelona is so happy at Anfield. LFC

Pretty much what I've thought all along. Everything points to him being very happy at Liverpool. He's a ripping lad too and cant see him kicking up a fuss. If we say not to selling, I'm sure he will be happy as larry to stay on and do well with us.

 

[DBAH0]

Fletcher to Boro for 6.5M with a decent sell on clause has been confirmed.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Only manure fans would agree with you.

more like only pool fans and barca fans would agree with you

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

• coutinho willing to take a paycut to force move to barca
• deportivo want arsenal's lucas perez
• alexis sanchez is fighting with his agent he wants to quit arsenal his agent wants him to stay at arsenal for the last 11months of his contract
• liverpool have said if barca wants coutinho cough up 133m or feck off
• dean saunders wants pool to sell coutinho for 100m to barca and replace him with gylfi sigurdsson and juan mata
• fiorentina think liverpools pricetag of 16m on lazar markovic is ridiculous
• inter milan want united to send them martial on loan as well as cash for perisic
• sunderland have rejected a bid for jeremain lens from besiktas
• neymar stormed out of barca training after a fight with nelson semedo
• Brazilian wonderkid Gabriel Martinelli is having a trial at manchester united
  
• barca expect neymar to join psg for 197m pounds
• l'equippe saying arsenal have had a 50m euro bid for lemar turned down
• tottenham have beaten psg to Juan Foyth
• chelsea want renato sanches
• united have sent scouts to watch anderlecht player Leander Dendoncker
• juventus have pulled out of matic deal because the player wants mou
• ac milan are set to beat united and bayern for emil forsberg
• everton want west ham veteran james collins
• Andreas Samaris is set to join the toon for 12m pounds and add ons
  
• mokel merino has joined newcastle on loan from dortmund
• RB Leipzig sporting director Ralf Rangnick has admitted Naby Keita has had his head turned by his entourage.
  
• leeds want 20m for chris wood with stoke,swansea and southampton fighting it out
• balde keita could be on his way to juventus
• Henrique Dalbert could be on his way to liverpool for 30m euros
  
• man city fear there wonder kid sancho is on his way to the gunners

 

[ADL9798]

I'd take Lukaku's 20 goals a season over Coutinho's occasional worldy every day of the week, thanks.

Because comparing an out and out CF with a midfielder based on goals is a perfectly rational thing to do.

 

[Cooldude]

Have we signed Van Dijk yet

 

[Established1870]

• sunderland have rejected a bid for jeremain lens from besiktas

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Because comparing an out and out CF with a midfielder based on goals is a perfectly rational thing to do.

No one apart from a single pool supporter wants to make the comparison.

Maybe you can help. By what metric is Coutinho more valuable than Lukaku?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[RPCB]

more like only pool fans and barca fans would agree with you

kangaspurs is a Tottenham supporter, so there's that too.

#Faithlogic

 

[ADL9798]

No one apart from a single pool supporter wants to make the comparison.

Maybe you can help. By what metric is Coutinho more valuable than Lukaku?

I have certain posters on ignore, so didn't see the preceding comment.

Even if you want to look purely at scoring involvements, which as a midfielder I think significantly underplays Coutinho's overall involvement in the game compared to Lukaku whose sole responsibility as a CF is to get in the area and put the ball in the back of the net, last season in the league:

Lukaku scored a goal every 176 minutes. He had a direct scoring involvement (goal/assist) every 127 minutes. 25 goals/assists in 37 games (36 starts, 1 as sub).

Coutinho scored a goal every 172 minutes. He had a direct scoring involvement (goal/assist) every 112 minutes. 20 goals/assists in 31 games (28 starts, 3 as sub).

I could quote metrics which favour deeper lying players like key passes, final third completed passes, chances created, dribbles, even MOTM awards - all of which Coutinho has a distinct advantage in, but I think I've done enough damage to the credibility of this argument for one day.

As I said, they play completely different roles so comparing them purely based on goals is foolish, but even humouring this argument and playing the game on Lukaku's home turf, using the 1 thing that as a CF he is supposed to have a clear advantage over Coutinho for, he doesn't have an advantage.

 

[jd2010]

• coutinho willing to take a paycut to force move to barca
• deportivo want arsenal's lucas perez
• alexis sanchez is fighting with his agent he wants to quit arsenal his agent wants him to stay at arsenal for the last 11months of his contract
• liverpool have said if barca wants coutinho cough up 133m or feck off
• dean saunders wants pool to sell coutinho for 100m to barca and replace him with gylfi sigurdsson and juan mata
• fiorentina think liverpools pricetag of 16m on lazar markovic is ridiculous
• inter milan want united to send them martial on loan as well as cash for perisic
• sunderland have rejected a bid for jeremain lens from besiktas
• neymar stormed out of barca training after a fight with nelson semedo
• Brazilian wonderkid Gabriel Martinelli is having a trial at manchester united
  
• barca expect neymar to join psg for 197m pounds
• l'equippe saying arsenal have had a 50m euro bid for lemar turned down
• tottenham have beaten psg to Juan Foyth
• chelsea want renato sanches
• united have sent scouts to watch anderlecht player Leander Dendoncker
• juventus have pulled out of matic deal because the player wants mou
• ac milan are set to beat united and bayern for emil forsberg
• everton want west ham veteran james collins
• Andreas Samaris is set to join the toon for 12m pounds and add ons
  
• mokel merino has joined newcastle on loan from dortmund
• RB Leipzig sporting director Ralf Rangnick has admitted Naby Keita has had his head turned by his entourage.
  
• leeds want 20m for chris wood with stoke,swansea and southampton fighting it out
• balde keita could be on his way to juventus
• Henrique Dalbert could be on his way to liverpool for 30m euros
  
• man city fear there wonder kid sancho is on his way to the gunners

Thought we dropped out of the race for Foyth. After seeing Wimmer in pre season we definitely need another CB or two

 

[Donnie Darko]

Does Neymar want the PSG move?
or simply angling for a pay rise !

 

[Fwoy]

No one apart from a single pool supporter wants to make the comparison.

Maybe you can help. By what metric is Coutinho more valuable than Lukaku?

More than happy for the rest of the community to stick with their mocking of LFC and their supporters at any cost, just like we're more than happy you undervalue Cout. Happy to keep him

I'm sure if/when he eventually moves to another club all the cool kids will heckle us again even though he's such a poor player

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I have certain posters on ignore, so didn't see the preceding comment.

Even if you want to look purely at scoring involvements, which as a midfielder I think significantly underplays Coutinho's overall involvement in the game compared to Lukaku whose sole responsibility as a CF is to get in the area and put the ball in the back of the net, last season in the league:

Lukaku scored a goal every 176 minutes. He had a direct scoring involvement (goal/assist) every 127 minutes. 25 goals/assists in 37 games (36 starts, 1 as sub).

Coutinho scored a goal every 172 minutes. He had a direct scoring involvement (goal/assist) every 112 minutes. 20 goals/assists in 31 games (28 starts, 3 as sub).

I could quote metrics which favour deeper lying players like key passes, final third completed passes, chances created, dribbles, even MOTM awards - all of which Coutinho has a distinct advantage in, but I think I've done enough damage to the credibility of this argument for one day.

As I said, they play completely different roles so comparing them purely based on goals is foolish, but even humouring this argument and playing the game on Lukaku's home turf, using the 1 thing that as a CF he is supposed to have a clear advantage over Coutinho for, he doesn't have an advantage.

Even if we accept the fallacy that you can extrapolate Coutniho's stats to more games/minutes and the ratio remains the same, your stats are wrong. Lukaku scored 25 goals and was credited with 6 assists.

I would be more careful about mentioning credibility if I were you. Back to the drawing board please.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

More than happy for the rest of the community to stick with their mocking of LFC and their supporters at any cost, just like we're more than happy you undervalue Cout. Happy to keep him

I'm sure if/when he eventually moves to another club all the cool kids will heckle us again even though he's such a poor player

One of the more interesting strawmans I've read.

 

[FAITH]

VVD to LFC is done apparently, fee agree.
Saints just sorting out PR issues

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Even if we accept the fallacy that you can extrapolate Coutniho's stats to more games/minutes and the ratio remains the same, your stats are wrong. Lukaku scored 25 goals and was credited with 6 assists.

I would be more careful about mentioning credibility if I were you. Back to the drawing board please.

I regret bringing it up. Somehow a basic comment on football going mad if Coutinho is valued at £134m becomes a comparison between he and Lukaku, but this is what happens when faith intervenes...

 

[Cooldude]

Twitter rumours are funny, one guy sprouting bullshit and then all the other "ITKs" follow and pretend they're breaking the same story, then people think it's gospel because a lot of people are saying the same shit, when in fact it all came from one source of bullshit

 

[FAITH]

I regret bringing it up. Somehow a basic comment on football going mad if Coutinho is valued at £134m becomes a comparison between he and Lukaku, but this is what happens when faith intervenes...

You're too anti LFC like a lot of people on here, which clouds your judgement.

 

[pantskyle]

Inters manager has said that United haven't been in contact for a while and he himself would strongly oppose the sale of Perisic.

Paying around $3.50 on Sportsbet to stay.

 

[chef]

Inters manager has said that United haven't been in contact for a while and he himself would strongly oppose the sale of Perisic.

Paying around $3.50 on Sportsbet to stay.

What are Matic to United odds like?