Transfer discussion thread

[Zidane98]

I would wager that the fact that PL teams would be far more worried about each other and midtable clubs stealing ever vital points from them that could hinder their title/top 4 ambitions then would for Juve/Bayern/Real/Barca (and I suppose you can throw Atleti into that). Including PSG, when was the last time any of them seriously had to worry about losing their CL place?

Freakin' West Brom would ruin your day. Genoa is not as much as trouble (and I really like Genoa) to Juve. West Ham can just bring in Little Pea just like that. I can't see Atlanta doing the same.

More money in England has made things tighter.

So much this. Low level teams in La Liga cop large thrashings regularly and offer little in competitiveness. Last season even Sunderland put up some resistance to top teams (drew with Spurs & LFC). It's a tight league these days.

 

[Zidane98]

Because we're talking leagues not individual teams.

And pretty sure the tide is swinging back towards England in Europe anyway.

I remember the days when Liverpool & Chelsea were regularly making the last 8/semis. Not sure that is going to happen again.

 

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I remember the days when Liverpool & Chelsea were regularly making the last 8/semis. Not sure that is going to happen again.

United just won Europa and have a pretty strong and deep squad now. I think a few teams have the potential to do well.

 

[Established1870]

United just won Europa and have a pretty strong and deep squad now. I think a few teams have the potential to do well.

United won Europa because they had a Bradbury run to the final. No English club is catching up to Real, Atletico, Juventus, Bayern or PSG for awhile.

 

[Established1870]

So much this. Low level teams in La Liga cop large thrashings regularly and offer little in competitiveness. Last season even Sunderland put up some resistance to top teams (drew with Spurs & LFC). It's a tight league these days.

The reason La Liga clubs get smashed is because:

A) Real and Barca are on a different planet to any team planet wise in that league aside from Atletico.

B) Goal difference isn't a factor in La Liga. Positions are determined by head to head records. Meaning losing 5-0 isn't entirely important in Spain compared to England where losing 2-0 or 3-0 could be the difference between staying up and gettting relegated.

 

[Established1870]

We are talking about popularity, and the prem shits on those leagues in that respect.

Serie A and Bundesliga yes but in terms of popularity there isn't much of a difference between La Liga and The Premier League.

 

[typeclub]

Want to explain why those countries are more successful in Europe and in International football if they're diddy leagues then?

The most hilarious response to this is when they say their league is so strong that they have to focus on it. No mention that Leicester won their league lmao

EPL is piss even German and Serie A clubs would walk it.

I remember the days when Liverpool & Chelsea were regularly making the last 8/semis. Not sure that is going to happen again.

United just won Europa and have a pretty strong and deep squad now. I think a few teams have the potential to do well.

He said last 8/semi's.

He said Europa League

 

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Last I checked Europa was a European league and used to get pulled up as an example of a comp the English teams failed at.

 

[Established1870]

Last I checked Europa was a European league and used to get pulled up as an example of a comp the English teams failed at.

Except didn't English teams treat the EL as a complete joke until UCL football was introduced for the winners?

 

[typeclub]

Last I checked Europa was a European league and used to get pulled up as an example of a comp the English teams failed at.

Yeah congrats EPL managed to win a second tier cup after breaking the transfer record in Europe.

 

[typeclub]

Except didn't English teams treat the EL as a complete joke until UCL football was introduced for the winners?

Even Spurs threw it lol

 

[WealstoneRaider]

TC & Established reveal their insecurities by talking smack on the EPL constantly. Don't see why you can't just enjoy watching the Spainish or German league without having to rag on the English. Very insecure behaviour

 

[SM]

Except didn't English teams treat the EL as a complete joke until UCL football was introduced for the winners?

Which kind of shows that they're good enough to win it when they care about it, right?

 

[SM]

Yeah congrats EPL managed to win a second tier cup after breaking the transfer record in Europe.

PSG say hi.

 

[typeclub]

Which kind of shows that they're good enough to win it when they care about it, right?

Yeah it shows how much less everyone else cared. Come back when one of your second tier poor clubs make it there like Fulham did or Pool a couple year ago.

 

[elhadjihenry]

Serie A and Bundesliga yes but in terms of popularity there isn't much of a difference between La Liga and The Premier League.

Not going to argue that the PL is the best league in terms of quality, but what exactly are you basing this on? If you look at worldwide TV audiences which is probably the most obvious indicator of global popularity then the Premier League has something like 5-6 times as many viewers as La Liga. People worldwide watch Barca and Madrid games from Spain but not much else.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Yeah it shows how much less everyone else cared. Come back when one of your second tier poor clubs make it there like Fulham did or Pool a couple year ago.

You hear that? Celtic Vigo, Ajax, and Lyon, the sides that were thrashing everyone, just decided they don't give a crap about getting a guaranteed CL spot, like Sevilla did.

I mean, it's not like these awesome sides needed to win the EL to get into the CL... oh wait.

That's OK, it's not like they could do with that CL money to help them become better sides.

Can't have the cake and eat it too when the prize becomes even better. (Spurs tanked the CL because they wanted to go for the title, they were guaranteed a CL Group Spot.)

Serie A and Bundesliga yes but in terms of popularity there isn't much of a difference between La Liga and The Premier League.

In South America maybe. Then again, it's all Real-Barca. I think far more people would be able to name PL or even most of the Championship sides over someone like Alaves or Osasuana.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

The most hilarious response to this is when they say their league is so strong that they have to focus on it. No mention that Leicester won their league lmao

That's right. You have a problem with that? Our smaller teams cause trouble for bigger teams because they can get better players and make things genuinely tough. Is it our fault that we focused on winning our games to make it all possible?

Real and Barca don't have to worry about Getafe or Malaga throwing a spanner in their title plans because they found their mojo on a good day.

I hate to see what you thought of La Liga even just 15 years ago.

 

[SM]

Yeah it shows how much less everyone else cared. Come back when one of your second tier poor clubs make it there like Fulham did or Pool a couple year ago.

Liverpool made the final two years ago.

 

[typeclub]

Our smaller teams cause trouble for bigger teams because they can get better players and make things genuinely tough.

Lol sorry, this is the part that makes me laugh.

Do you see how tight La Liga titles are? You don't win without 90 points. Its not like EPL where you can drop points and still be right. Yet our top clubs deal with this pressure and make it in Eu. While yours are dropping titles to Leicester on 81 points. Then Conte comes in and walks the league. It tells me they are not very good.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Lol sorry, this is the part that makes me laugh.

Do you see how tight La Liga titles are? You don't win without 90 points. Its not like EPL where you can drop points and still be right. Yet our top clubs deal with this pressure and make it in Eu. While yours are dropping titles to Leicester on 81 points. Then Conte comes in and walks the league. It tells me they are not very good.

Your titles are between two teams (three in recent years), and you're expected to win games against all your opponents, especially knowing that said teams would rather save their efforts for those around them.

Usually said titles come down to who ever has the better record in El Classico or against Valencia/Sevilla/Atleti.

90 points is the nor for title winning teams in La Liga out of expectation. People lose their heads if Barca or Real cannot get all three against 'lesser teams.'

Scottish Football was like that prior to Celtic's bankruptcy. Does that mean they are as good as La Liga?

A two team league is expected to be tight. A competition where the winners pool is 6-7 wide is going to be more massive than a competition between 2-3 teams.

Combined with the competition of the lesser teams, and you're likely to see more screw ups.

La Liga is a good league without question, but its bottom 10 are weaker than the EPL's bottom 10, especially when Swansea can just casually get an extremely talented youngster from Bayern just like that.

 

[PendlePie]

Generally speaking, EPL clubs are overrated as **** - it really isn't hard to see that.

UCL and Europa are the best indicators of league quality you'll get. The excuse of "but middle & lower EPL sides are tougher to play against" is pathetic. EPL clubs have done poorly in UCL and not much better in Europa simply because they're well off the pace technically and tactically.

Good recent example - for the past 2 seasons Spurs have wiped the floor with most EPL sides. 20+ shots on goal, 65-70% possession and 2+ points per game is their standard. Yet Monaco and Leverkusen gave them an absolute bath in Europe last season, and Dortmund did the same a year earlier. Then there's Arsenal (the perennial top 4 version, not the current pile of shit) failing to make the top 8 for 5-6 years straight.

The only team that would be of concern to Barca, Madrid, Juve, Bayern in Europe is City, yet even they aren't great (as Monaco showed).

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Then Conte comes in and walks the league. It tells me they are not very good.

How's it working out for Pep? You know the one who continually walked the league in Spain and Germany year after year? Tells me those leagues can't be any good...

 

[PendlePie]

How's it working out for Pep? You know the one who continually walked the league in Spain and Germany year after year? Tells me those leagues can't be any good...

Because Pep had Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique. Then he had Neuer, Boateng, Alaba, Lahm, Alonso, Kroos, Lewa, Ribery, Robben.

Last season he had Bravo, Otamendi, Stones, Kolarov and Fernando trying to implement a game style they weren't capable of mastering. Go figure.

 

[Cruyff14]

United won Europa because they had a Bradbury run to the final. No English club is catching up to Real, Atletico, Juventus, Bayern or PSG for awhile.

Can only beat what's in front of you.

Not that a Sunderland fan would know much about that.