Transfer discussion thread

[RossFC]

Minamino's release clause is apparently 7.25mil.

 

[wadistance]

You don't think City will make a play?

We have the best project to sell him right now which is good. Working under Klopp too I reckon I a huge advantage for us.

No idea if he wants to come to us though.

Reading from a few sources, the general feeling is that Sancho is reluctant to go to City based on Pep not giving him a chance, and him wanting to prove that it was a mistake.

Could see a similar situation to Pulisic/Keita tbh, where a team signs him in the winter but he stays till the end of the year. Now we're in the round of 16, and still in the Pokal and league, I could not see one way in which he would be allowed to go in winter. Every report coming out of Dortmund reads that he's not once discussed moving, and he wants to stay till the end of the season and try and win stuff

 

[Indie_]

#minamino2020

 

[ADL9798]

Seems it’s done. £7m would be an outstanding bit of business. Peanuts. One of the most impressive attackers we’ve faced this season, caused us big problems in both legs. Can play anywhere in the front 4. Mini Firmino.

 

[Zidane98]

Seems it’s done. £7m would be an outstanding bit of business. Peanuts. One of the most impressive attackers we’ve faced this season, caused us big problems in both legs. Can play anywhere in the front 4. Mini Firmino.

Yes, most reliable tomato sauces are saying it is likely to happen. Really excited about this one and good to see the club is still willing to buy a talent and mould them into a world class footballer.


One thing I have not been able to glean from reports is whether we plan to loan him back to Salzburg for the remainder of the season. To me this would make sense; they may well go on a fairytale Europa League run and I don't see him getting a great deal of game time this season.

 

[jod23]

I think you have the worst TBH, out of us, United and you guys. Sancho is a RW and you have ths best RW in the league.

Sure you have the best team for him to be part of the squad but walk up starter...nah.

Oh yeah for playing opportunities he'd be much better off at Chelsea and United. But depends how much he rates himself. Does he think he can come in and displace Mane or Salah? Big ask for sure.

But then working under Lampard or Ole is not as tantalising as working under probably right now the best manager on the planet.

Plus were in a position to win silverware where as United and Chelsea are in transition. Gonna be an interesting summer that's for sure.

 

[jod23]

Yeah seems the Minamino deal is done. Great bit of business if the 7.5 million fee is true!

Does this mean Sancho is a no go?

Firmino, Mane, Salah with back up across the front three in Origi, Brewster, Shaq, Minamino, Ox...

Would be overkill to bring in another attacker.

 

[Zidane98]

Yeah seems the Minamino deal is done. Great bit of business if the 7.5 million fee is true!

Does this mean Sancho is a no go?

Firmino, Mane, Salah with back up across the front three in Origi, Brewster, Shaq, Minamino, Ox...

Would be overkill to bring in another attacker.

Ox isnt a front 3 player really. Talk Brewster will be loaned, if Minamino comes in that makes sense.

 

[jod23]

Ox isnt a front 3 player really. Talk Brewster will be loaned, if Minamino comes in that makes sense.

Yeah we risk losing Brewster though. I read rumours he was gonna leave last summer cos he lacked opportunities. Heard it was a direct chat with Klopp which convinced him to stay and he was promised opportunities to which he's basically got none this season.

He might want out. Ox I agree is better in midfield but he has been used in a front three this season.

 

[Magma]

You don't think City will make a play?

We have the best project to sell him right now which is good. Working under Klopp too I reckon I a huge advantage for us.

No idea if he wants to come to us though.

no. he burnt a lot of bridges on the way out.

 

[jod23]

no. he burnt a lot of bridges on the way out.

Fair enough. That's good for us.

 

[wadistance]

no. he burnt a lot of bridges on the way out.

Reckon that went both ways tbf


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[Magma]

Reckon that went both ways tbf


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possibly. but when you skip training, declare yourself homesick and then jet off to germany you probably wont be very popular

 

[chef]

He also wanted assurances he'd get game time something Pep couldnt guarantee.

Makes you wonder if Phil Foden should have done the same thing seeing simular guys like Maddison and Mount go past him in the English set up.

 

[Magma]

He also wanted assurances he'd get game time something Pep couldnt guarantee.

Makes you wonder if Phil Foden should have done the same thing seeing simular guys like Maddison and Mount go past him in the English set up.

that doesnt mean you disappear from the club. giving game time assurances to 17 year olds is insane.

mount is 18 months older than foden and maddison is 4 years older.

 

[ADL9798]

possibly. but when you skip training, declare yourself homesick and then jet off to germany you probably wont be very popular

Familiar story. Obviously the players have some say but I do wonder how much of it is driven by the agents, the idea that you have to go down this path to get the move you want.

 

[chef]

that doesnt mean you disappear from the club. giving game time assurances to 17 year olds is insane.

mount is 18 months older than foden and maddison is 4 years older.

Did Dortmund give Sancho assurances he'd get a fair chance to win a spot?

Mount and Madidison at the same age were playing regularly and developing, I guess the hope for Phil is if he stays/hangs around long enough he'll get David Silvas spot. Do you think that'll honestly happen or you'll splash out big on a ready made star?

 

[chef]

Familiar story. Obviously the players have some say but I do wonder how much of it is driven by the agents, the idea that you have to go down this path to get the move you want.

Some kids just want to play now and not bide their time on the bench. We've lost a few over the years too.

 

[Zidane98]

that doesnt mean you disappear from the club. giving game time assurances to 17 year olds is insane.

mount is 18 months older than foden and maddison is 4 years older.

Agree on this one. No club is going to give guarantees to any footballer at age 18. Sancho obviously had the talent - he should have backed himself to win Pep over.

 

[jod23]

that doesnt mean you disappear from the club. giving game time assurances to 17 year olds is insane.

mount is 18 months older than foden and maddison is 4 years older.

Was Sancho a special case though given his obvious talent. Maybe you should have guaranteed him playing time.

Kinda like Sterling. We were just regularly playing him because of his sheet talent.

 

[Magma]

Did Dortmund give Sancho assurances he'd get a fair chance to win a spot?

Mount and Madidison at the same age were playing regularly and developing, I guess the hope for Phil is if he stays/hangs around long enough he'll get David Silvas spot. Do you think that'll honestly happen or you'll splash out big on a ready made star?

silva is leaving at the end of the season. i think he gets it because there arent that many star midfielders anyways.

 

[Zidane98]

silva is leaving at the end of the season. i think he gets it because there arent that many star midfielders anyways.

Any chance Sane heads to Bayern and Sancho comes back to replace him?

 

[Kompany]

Some kids just want to play now and not bide their time on the bench. We've lost a few over the years too.

Kids should be playing though. It's how they learn the game. If you look at the world's best players at the moment, most if not all would've been playing somewhere at 18, be it at Genk, Lille, Santos, Monaco, Groningen, Ajax...

Musonda for example, I'm convinced he'd have turned out much better if he had stayed in Belgium (like KDB, Kompany, Tielemans...) and proven himself there for a season or 2 before moving to a bigger club or league, rather than being this prodigy in Chelsea's academy.

 

[jod23]

Kids should be playing though. It's how they learn the game. If you look at the world's best players at the moment, most if not all would've been playing somewhere at 18, be it at Genk, Lille, Santos, Monaco, Groningen, Ajax...

Musonda for example, I'm convinced he'd have turned out much better if he had stayed in Belgium (like KDB, Kompany, Tielemans...) and proven himself there for a season or 2 before moving to a bigger club or league, rather than being this prodigy in Chelsea's academy.

There is also the old if you're good enough you're old enough. Just using my club as an example cos I know it best. Owen, Fowler, Carragher, Gerrard, Sterling, TAA all were playing regularly by the time they were 18 for the club. Some even at 17...

I would have thought Sancho fell into that bracket. He's certainly proven as much as BVB.

 

[chef]

I'd rather buyback Jeremy Boga for 3.5m and wait

Kids should be playing though. It's how they learn the game. If you look at the world's best players at the moment, most if not all would've been playing somewhere at 18, be it at Genk, Lille, Santos, Monaco, Groningen, Ajax...

Musonda for example, I'm convinced he'd have turned out much better if he had stayed in Belgium (like KDB, Kompany, Tielemans...) and proven himself there for a season or 2 before moving to a bigger club or league, rather than being this prodigy in Chelsea's academy.

Do you think he has the mentality to get to the highest level or he's maybe not that good?

I'm not sure he has/is TBH when you look at others like Ake, Christensen, RLC, Tammy, Mount, Tomori etc who have been through the same as him yet have gone out, starred elsewhere and made it back to Chelsea. Musonda was never a prodigy in our set up, maybe back home but at Cobham he was just another one of our super talented kids.

He has had 2 or 3 decent locations on loan and failed to make much of an impact(though he's cruelled by injury atm). Once back fit he should be tearing the Dutch League a new one like Mason Mount did as an 18 year old.