Transfer discussion thread

[jod23]

Yep. But that's stupid.

There are very few keepers better than ddg.

Ditto awb right back

Ditto slabhead

I agree city and lfx are ahead but I don't think the gap is we as large as you think.

If the get a top rw there isn't many holes. Assuming pogba stays.

They are projected to come out of the pandemic better than most too

Ditto slabhead. Are you telling me there are very few CBs better than him? He's average at best. Leicester sold him and immediately replaced him with someone better, Soyuncu.

AWB is not great going forward.

DDG had fallen off a cliff. You still think of him as world class but that was 3 or so years ago. He's not that great anymore.

As I said... United IMO are a good 5-6 world class players away from challenging and probably an upgrade in management too.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Ddg isnt quite young for a keeper. It's possible he refinds his best form.

Of the above Id only havr the Brazilians, Oblak and MTS clearly ahead.

United probably have the best gk in world football outside the Brazilian NT(?). A strange direction to pick to bag them with the eng and Argentina no.1s in reservation

Ditto slabhead. Are you telling me there are very few CBs better than him? He's average at best. Leicester sold him and immediately replaced him with someone better, Soyuncu.

AWB is not great going forward.

DDG had fallen off a cliff. You still think of him as world class but that was 3 or so years ago. He's not that great anymore.

As I said... United IMO are a good 5-6 world class players away from challenging and probably an upgrade in management too.

Yes that my opinion

Why didn't United spend 80mil quid on the Turk if he is better?

Seems like a strange idea.

Slab is also mid 20s. Most world class cb are 30+

There are very few rb superior to awb. Look at Barca who can't find one.

You wrong United need 5 to 6 world class players to compete IMO

 

[drd23]

Of the above Id only havr the Brazilians, Oblak and MTS clearly ahead.

United probably have the best gk in world football outside the Brazilian NT(?).

 

[Marcel Proust]

Which club or country will gone next season with a better gk department?

Outside of Brazil. Assuming United keep all three.

Henderson is very highly rated as far as I know.

 

[Zidane98]

More transfer talk less Utd wankfest pls.

 

[Marcel Proust]

More transfer talk less Utd wankfest pls.

German journalist Heiko Wasser hinted that the England international found himself on the sidelines thanks to interest from United.


The tweet above reads: "That Sancho sitting on the bench at first is completely ok, he is already with his head at Man United.

 

[chef]

werner

ziyech havertz

kante kovacic

jorginho

chillwell tomorari christensen azp

kepa


+ pulisic zouma CHO RLC abraham james mount ...

............................Tammy................

......Werner..............Mount............Ziyech........

..................Kovacic...........Kante.......

tagliafico....Christensen....Rudiger.....James

................................Kepa


Maybe?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Btw

Iirc

Havertz has scored the 4t h most góals this year

Clúb/ national footb

Equal with Ronaldo

............................Tammy................

......Werner..............Mount............Ziyech........

..................Kovacic...........Kante.......

tagliafico....Christensen....Rudiger.....James

................................Kepa


Maybe?

Seems a waste to buy werner añd Ziyech and not play them iñ the 9 and 10?

 

[chef]

Seems a waste to buy werner añd Ziyech and not play them iñ the 9 and 10?

Ziyech is better on the right rather than as a 10 and Werners better playing with another striker.

 

[pantskyle]

What the hell is happening in this thread.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Ziyech is better on the right rather than as a 10 and Werners better playing with another striker.

Yeah maybe but it seems a waste not having him centrally given he's very good at not tht fast.

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I don't watch redbull much but werner seem a proper striker again dunno about shunting him out wide

I know they play 442 so maybe your onto something

 

[Marcel Proust]

What the hell is happening in this thread.

I think we are discussing how realistic it is, the third , fourth teams can win domestically in next season.

.after another transfer window

 

[Cruyff14]

Ddg isnt quite young for a keeper. It's possible he refinds his best form.

Of the above Id only havr the Brazilians, Oblak and MTS clearly ahead.

United probably have the best gk in world football outside the Brazilian NT(?). A strange direction to pick to bag them with the eng and Argentina no.1s in reservation



Yes that my opinion

Why didn't United spend 80mil quid on the Turk if he is better?

Seems like a strange idea.

Slab is also mid 20s. Most world class cb are 30+

There are very few rb superior to awb. Look at Barca who can't find one.

You wrong United need 5 to 6 world class players to compete IMO

Ramos was world class before 30. VVD isn't 30. Varane isn't 30. Kouliabilky isn't 30. Skriniar isn't 30. Marquinhos isn't 30. Laporte isn't 30. Kompany was world class in his 20s. Chiellini and Bonucci were both world class in their 20s.

Should I keep going?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Ramos was world class before 30. VVD isn't 30. Varane isn't 30. Kouliabilky isn't 30. Skriniar isn't 30. Marquinhos isn't 30. Laporte isn't 30. Kompany was world class in his 20s. Chiellini and Bonucci were both world class in their 20s.

Should I keep going?

Yes, please do.

So you can name 6 better cb?

Does that mean the slab is not wc or close to?

Laporte is coming off a knee. The juv blokes are ancient and on the slide.

There are not that many superior cb to Maguire. Many neutrals would have him top20/15 if not higher

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

............................Tammy................

......Werner..............Mount............Ziyech........

..................Kovacic...........Kante.......

tagliafico....Christensen....Rudiger.....James

................................Kepa


Maybe?

Where would Havertz fit?

 

[Cruyff14]

Yes, please do.

So you can name 6 better cb?

Does that mean the slab is not wc or close to?

Laporte is coming off a knee. The juv blokes are ancient and on the slide.

There are not that many superior cb to Maguire. Many neutrals would have him top20/15 if not higher

Your statement was "Most world class cb are 30+"

I've already proved you wrong.

Run along and get back to your little FIFA Fantasy world.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Yes. Most; look up the definition

Juv pair. Ramos. Tsilva etc.

Vvd. Koul. Etc. Are around 30

There are better cb than Maguire but not that many.

United is 6 world class players and s new coach away from being any good is frankly delusional

 

[Cruyff14]

Yes. Most; look up the definition

Juv pair. Ramos. Tsilva etc.

Vvd. Koul. Etc. Are around 30

There are better cb than Maguire but not that many.

United is 6 world class players and s new coach away from being any good is frankly delusional

Lol now you're shifting the goalposts. First it was "30+" now it's "around 30".

Pick one side of the fence and stick to it. It's not hard.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Lol now you're shifting the goalposts. First it was "30+" now it's "around 30".

Pick one side of the fence and stick to it. It's not hard.

Geez you must be good at parties.

Try an get a vibe for the convo instead of being a pedantic so/so

 

[Cruyff14]

All I need to know is you're blinded by your support of your football club and you're struggling to look at things objectively.

 

[chef]

Where would Havertz fit?

I'm not keen too get too excited by the links just yet, but he'll either play that 'Firmino' role as a 9(and do it ****ing well) or take Mounts spot in my team I put up.

 

[chef]

Yeah maybe but it seems a waste not having him centrally given he's very good at not tht fast.

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I don't watch redbull much but werner seem a proper striker again dunno about shunting him out wide

I know they play 442 so maybe your onto something

See I think Ziyech isn't as effective centrally as he needs to be able to cut in and use his killer left foot, watching him play a fair bit over the last few seasons he's better as a inverted RW than a 10.

Yeah, you don't want Werner being the last man, needs to drop a bit deeper and run at the defence, his speed is almost his best asset. He'll need Tammy or Giroud to get the best out of him.

 

[Memphis]

Ditto slabhead. Are you telling me there are very few CBs better than him? He's average at best. Leicester sold him and immediately replaced him with someone better, Soyuncu.

AWB is not great going forward.

DDG had fallen off a cliff. You still think of him as world class but that was 3 or so years ago. He's not that great anymore.

As I said... United IMO are a good 5-6 world class players away from challenging and probably an upgrade in management too.

AWB is not good going forward?
Either you're taking the piss or as said by everyone you have no idea when it comes to talking about united.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I mean you can keep listing the players but it doesn't make them any better. The simple way to look at it is how many world class players do City and Liverpool have?

You can argue that City have about 10. Sterling, Aguero, KDB, Sane, B.Silva, D.Silva, Laporte, Ederson, Mahrez, Fernandinho....

Liverpool... VVD, TAA, Robertson, Firmino, Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Alisson, that's 8 right there.

Now how many do United have. Two. Just two. Bruno and Pogba. So by my reckoning United are a good 5-6 world class players short of challenging the likes of Liverpool and City at the moment.

Not the mention the best two managers in world football in Klopp and Pep. United have... well Ole.

United have good players. Top six team for sure. But next season and challenging for the title is an absolute pipe dream.

All I need to know is you're blinded by your support of your football club and you're struggling to look at things objectively.

Am I? All think I said is is a pretty good chance cfc or utd can win.

If they have some luck, spend some money wise etc. I don't see they as many many holes long term I could be wrong

The top2 are very strong but they have to do it again.

I don't like the above world class lists as a rating system cause it's not objective. Based on the whims of someone that's never been to a game. Not personal, they are a very common thing.

It's also a meaningless term. You here pogs is not wc yet there isn't many better 8s or guys that very v important in bossing world cups.

So. What is world class in football? Beat 50? Best 10 in position?

 

[chef]