Transfer discussion thread

[jod23]

Wait who hasn't been to a game?

 

[jod23]

Am I? All think I said is is a pretty good chance cfc or utd can win.

If they have some luck, spend some money wise etc. I don't see they as many many holes long term I could be wrong

The top2 are very strong but they have to do it again.

I don't like the above world class lists as a rating system cause it's not objective. Based on the whims of someone that's never been to a game. Not personal, they are a very common thing.

It's also a meaningless term. You here pogs is not wc yet there isn't many better 8s or guys that very v important in bossing world cups.

So. What is world class in football? Beat 50? Best 10 in position?

World class in football I guess is top three in your position in the world. Or top 5ish...

Or how many of your players would get into the best current team in the world.

Actually for lols... give me your joint Liverpool/United XI

 

[chef]

For me someone who is world is someone who could play in any team.

 

[jod23]

For me someone who is world is someone who could play in any team.

How many you reckon at United?

 

[Cruyff14]

World class in football I guess is top three in your position in the world. Or top 5ish...

Or how many of your players would get into the best current team in the world.

Actually for lols... give me your joint Liverpool/United XI

Alisson
TAA Maguire VVD Robertson
Bruno Henderson Wijnaldum
Salah Firmino Mane

I went Henderson over Pogba for balance and Pogba is too inconsistent. On his day he starts in this team. His day does not come often enough. Firmino over Rashford, because right now, that's the best front three in football. Fabinho unlucky.

 

[jod23]

Alisson
TAA Maguire VVD Robertson
Bruno Henderson Wijnaldum
Salah Firmino Mane

I went Henderson over Pogba for balance and Pogba is too inconsistent. On his day he starts in this team. His day does not come often enough. Firmino over Rashford, because right now, that's the best front three in football. Fabinho unlucky.

Not bad. I'd have something similar but I'd have Gomez in before Maguire who is too slow.

 

[Cruyff14]

Not bad. I'd have something similar but I'd have Gomez in before Maguire who is too slow.

I forgot about Gomez, but VVD would easily cover Maguire's sluggishness. Not to mention two CBs where the shorter one is 6'4 is ridiculous!

 

[jod23]

I forgot about Gomez, but VVD would easily cover Maguire's sluggishness. Not to mention two CBs where the shorter one is 6'4 is ridiculous!

Gomez is a terrific young talent. Reads the game so well which offsets that he isn't the tallest of CBs but he's so quick and good on the ball. Excellent defender. I could just never have Maguire in my team. His defending on the goal from Spurs the other night was awful. He's just too big and slow.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Can we get back to transfers.

 

[Cruyff14]

Gomez is a terrific young talent. Reads the game so well which offsets that he isn't the tallest of CBs but he's so quick and good on the ball. Excellent defender. I could just never have Maguire in my team. His defending on the goal from Spurs the other night was awful. He's just too big and slow.

Yeah but you're super biased lol.

I understand your points though.

 

[chef]

How many you reckon at United?

Pogba should be, but doesnt have the mentality. DDG used to be. Bruno could be if he keeps improving, same as Rashford.

I guess none atm.

 

[jod23]

Pogba should be, but doesnt have the mentality. DDG used to be. Bruno could be if he keeps improving, same as Rashford.

I guess none atm.

Yeah I said only Pogba but consistency is a big worry and Bruno but Bruno still a lot to prove.

 

[Marcel Proust]

For me someone who is world is someone who could play in any team.

That's a good definition. But, going by that , there are very few 'world class' footballers...

It doesn't matter if jorginho or rashford are categorized as wc. If they play very well, it'll be be help in their teams hopes of cups

 

[Marcel Proust]

How many you reckon at United?

How many at Liverpool

Allison for example wouldn't get a game at City or Barca

And especially not at the sunny side of Madrid (or Belgium)

Nice bench option (like ddg/hendo )

In fact by that definition there is a very sounds argument no lfx is wc outside the swamp German

I'd prefer varane and marquhinos but each to his own

 

[jod23]

How many at Liverpool

Allison for example wouldn't get a game at City or Barca

And especially not at the sunny side of Madrid (or Belgium)

Nice bench option (like ddg/hendo )

In fact by that definition there is a very sounds argument no lfx is wc outside the swamp German

I'd prefer varane and marquhinos but each to his own

Lol.... what are you talking about. Alisson is probably the best GK in the world. Either him or Oblak.

I already said earlier how many world class players Liverpool have... IMO it's 7. Ali, VVD, TAA, Robbo, Salah, Firm and Mane.

 

[chef]

Lol.... what are you talking about. Alisson is probably the best GK in the world. Either him or Oblak.

I already said earlier how many world class players Liverpool have... IMO it's 7. Ali, VVD, TAA, Robbo, Salah, Firm and Mane.

Agree on the others, but Firmino isnt for mine

 

[Cruyff14]

Agree on the others, but Firmino isnt for mine

Firmino is, but needs the right system to flourish. His talent is undeniable IMO.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Lol.... what are you talking about. Alisson is probably the best GK in the world. Either him or Oblak.

I already said earlier how many world class players Liverpool have... IMO it's 7. Ali, VVD, TAA, Robbo, Salah, Firm and Mane.

Focus on the words:


chef said:
For me someone who is world is someone who could play in any team

 

[Art Vandelay_]

World class in football I guess is top three in your position in the world. Or top 5ish...

I already said earlier how many world class players Liverpool have... IMO it's 7. Ali, VVD, TAA, Robbo, Salah, Firm and Mane.

Lewandowski
Kane
Aguero
Suarez
Werner*
Mbappe*
Immobile

Not always playing as the CF*

Haaland??

 

[chef]

Firmino is, but needs the right system to flourish. His talent is undeniable IMO.

I agree he is a system player and he fits what Klopp wants, but he wouldnt be as effective elsewhere and that stops him from being WC for mine.

 

[chef]

Lewandowski
Kane
Aguero
Suarez
Werner*
Mbappe*
Immobile

Not always playing as the CF*

Haaland??

PEA

 

[Cruyff14]

I agree he is a system player and he fits what Klopp wants, but he wouldnt be as effective elsewhere and that stops him from being WC for mine.

Agree with this too.

I think Firmino is the exception to the rule. I get both sides to the argument.

 

[chef]

Agree with this too.

I think Firmino is the exception to the rule. I get both sides to the argument.

Yeah, i guess being effective in arguably the best team in the world atm goes a long way for him.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

PEA

Silly me. Started off thinking of CF's at CL clubs and forgot about bottom half clubs
He's another one.

Rashford has the potential and don't think he's far off. Scored against Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester, City, Spurs and Sheffield this season which make up most of the top half. If he can get fed more consistently by Pogba and Fernandes and supported by Martial he certainly has the potential.

 

[Cruyff14]

Yeah, Rashford in a few years will definitely be one the best 9s.

Mbappe will be the best 9 if he's played centrally. Haaland second I think.