Transfer discussion thread

[Art Vandelay_]

Lfc sold coutinho who was by far the stand out and essentially went onto win the league and cl.

Lcfc won the cup after selling 100s million quid of star players

Can you for once sod off today. Didn’t give a toss what you thought on this 4 months ago and don’t know. Get the hint already. You’ve been pushing this nonsensical barrow for months. Do you work for Sky?

In any case. Kante replaced by Ndidi, Maguire replaced by Soyuncu. There’s your difference. They have someone in recruitment who has a clue. We have Steve Hitchen. I wouldn’t trust hitchen to pick me a lettuce at the green grocers.

I mean look at the record. Walker -> Trippier -> Aurier -> Doherty

The bloke who was at the club before him has gone to city and won titles. The guy Poch picked is about to win a La Liga title. The two Hitchen picked...

Dembele -> Ndombele/Lo Celso. Get an out for this. Dembele was an irreplaceable enigma. A powerful, strong immovable object in midfield who could pass progressively, had elite dribbling skills, but could cover the pitch and protect the back 4 as well as any true DM. If he could finish as well as Yaya or De Bruyne from midfield for example we’d have no had him for long as Barca/Real would have come knocking.

Vertonghen -> Jose wanted Dias ir Skiriniar... Gets Rodon (who shows promise tbf).

Eriksen -> not been replaced

No way known I am trusting Steve ‘don’t like transfer windows’ Hitchen to spend money to replace someone as irreplaceable as HK. They’ll look at someone decent then end up panicking and getting Benteke or Abraham ffs.

As for coutinho he was a luxury player Liverpool no longer relied on. Kane is the PL. yes I said PL implying the whole damn league... top scorer and I believe still the top assister. We rely on him a lot more than bloody Coutinho ffs.

 

[jd2010]

The Athletic] Tottenham have known for long that Kane wants to leave. On England duty Kane left Man City players sensing he was heading there. He is Man City's 1st choice, and they have already enquired about him. Tottenham are angry at the timing, as they have some important games coming up.

What important games?

The overpriced 60 quid midweek dead rubber against Villa?

 

[pantskyle]

Even if City got Kane it doesn't make them unbeatable. Kane would be a striker that they'd have to change tactics for and maybe it doesn't work.

Messi would be a much bigger get for them. Not much would need to change.

 

[chef]

What doesn’t make you better: Selling your one truly world class player.

Levy does this and I’m watching Milan games next season and just checking Spurs scores on flashscore. At least with Maldini calling the shots the joint will be well run.

Really? you'd ditch Spurs if you sold a player.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The only animosity between Spurs and United is in the Spurs boardroom. We are not rivals.

You certainly don't represent the views of the majority of Spurs fans in the UK. Most don't begrudge Kane potentially wanting to leave and pin the blame for that on Levy and Lewis.

We’ve spent more on transfers since Leicester’s title than Leicester. Doing better, on the up and won a cup.

Because they pick an appropriate manager and spend wisely with a good recruiting team.

So in the sense that Levy and Lewis have got poor recruitment staff and have generally picked poor managers you are right. We have spent enough to win, we just spend it poorly.

Have made 9 cup semis or finals since our last trophy. Getting to the pointy end isn’t the issue like it is for say Everton. We’re getting enough looks, but haven’t scored in our last 4 cup finals. If I am not mistaken Kane has played in 3 of them so he is just as much responsible for the lack of silverware as the rest.
People will point to Levy not backing Poch and I say sod off. Pochettino openly is on record as having tanked/not cared about the domestic cups and selected his sides accordingly.

This is the pochettino side that went close to winning a title, and arguably should have, two season’s running. It is as close to a great side as you’ll get, and you tank cup comps you could win?? In the last 10 season’s 6/10 league cups have been won by the champions or runner’s up (title contenders). And the FA cup is being won by a shit Arsenal side and all the regular title aspiring clubs.. Finally get a coach and team to compete and the comp is tanked.

Did my head in.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Really? you'd ditch Spurs if you sold a player.

Ditch no. Care a lot lot less. Yes.
Holding firm and keeping him is a non-negotiable for me.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Think people in this thread have forgotten that the goal of most of these clubs is to 1. win trophies and 2. win the most prestigious trophies.

Winning any trophy is better than none. Anyone who has played in a losing GF or cup final will know that winning any trophy is better than losing a final in a better competition.

Some of us were stating that it’s more of an achievement making a CL final than winning a Europa, a competition that includes losers of CL group. Not saying winning Europa means nothing

 

[Bojan KantKick]

We’ve spent more on transfers since Leicester’s title than Leicester. Doing better, on the up and won a cup.

Because they pick an appropriate manager and spend wisely with a good recruiting team.

So in the sense that Levy and Lewis have got poor recruitment staff and have generally picked poor managers you are right. We have spent enough to win, we just spend it poorly.

Have made 9 cup semis or finals since our last trophy. Getting to the pointy end isn’t the issue like it is for say Everton. We’re getting enough looks, but haven’t scored in our last 4 cup finals. If I am not mistaken Kane has played in 3 of them so he is just as much responsible for the lack of silverware as the rest.
People will point to Levy not backing Poch and I say sod off. Pochettino openly is on record as having tanked/not cared about the domestic cups and selected his sides accordingly.

This is the pochettino side that went close to winning a title, and arguably should have, two season’s running. It is as close to a great side as you’ll get, and you tank cup comps you could win?? In the last 10 season’s 6/10 league cups have been won by the champions or runner’s up (title contenders). And the FA cup is being won by a sh*t Arsenal side and all the regular title aspiring clubs.. Finally get a coach and team to compete and the comp is tanked.

Did my head in.

Don't talk to me about recruitment teams. We had/have the worst in the league or at the very least, the worst final decision makers.

There has been resentment from fans against Levy for a long time and the ESL stuff was not well received by Spurs fans. Your owners are similar to Uniteds in a way. You will spend enough to get close but whenever you get close, you won't spend the required amount to get over the line the next season or to buy depth players so that you can compete on all fronts.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Some of us were stating that it’s more of an achievement making a CL final than winning a Europa, a competition that includes losers of CL group. Not saying winning Europa means nothing

fair call. Maybe it was just a deranged spurs fan that preferred losing a CL final over actually winning some silverware.

 

[99 Problems]

Even if City got Kane it doesn't make them unbeatable. Kane would be a striker that they'd have to change tactics for and maybe it doesn't work.

Messi would be a much bigger get for them. Not much would need to change.

Pep would make it work. They generally always played with a fit Aguero up front and it’s not like Kane is just a pure finisher. His hold up play is great and he creates more chances than most in the league.

Messi would be a great get obviously but that’s for a season, maybe two. Kane is potentially 100-150 league goals for them assuming nothing goes wrong injury wise.

 

[jd2010]

There is no doubt Pep, Kane and City works as long as he stays relatively injury free. A guy doesn't lead the goal scoring and assist charts at the same time and not be able to adapt his game

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Don't talk to me about recruitment teams. We had/have the worst in the league or at the very least, the worst final decision makers.

There has been resentment from fans against Levy for a long time and the ESL stuff was not well received by Spurs fans. Your owners are similar to Uniteds in a way. You will spend enough to get close but whenever you get close, you won't spend the required amount to get over the line the next season or to buy depth players so that you can compete on all fronts.

Similar and different.
Unlike the Glazers there is little evidence ours actively withdraw funds from the club. They've just spent a lot of it on capital works.

So for the pre-poch period you could certainly say 'won't'. Now though I think it is more 'can't'.. without becoming store bought fc. To either BoE (taxpayer) or a series of banks I think we still owe a billion pounds plus.

But that is by and large my point about spending, how much isn't as relevant as how well, you certainly need both though. The cash and the wherewithal. We chased Dias and Skriniar all window as an example. One was chased by a club bigger and better than us so was never going to select us over City. The other was at Inter and everyone knows what Italian clubs are like with transfers. Was futile in the end. Meanwhile Leicester has replaced slabhead with Soyuncu (season before) for a 3rd of the cost. Mahrez has become Maddison for less. Chilwell for Justin for less. Now Fofana for less than our targets and not much more than we spent on a prospect from Swansea. Castagne certainly better value than Doherty.

West Ham getting value out of Soucek and Coufal. Found a use for Lingard. Bowen was relatively cheap.

If we aspire to swim in the same pool as United, City, Chelsea then the money invested in capital works will help with that. We couldn't compete without it, and the last set of accounts before covid had us iirc earning more than Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. So clearly there is a cashcow there. But we won't do much with that extra cash with a bloke as useless as Scott Clayton (sorry chef ) buying the players, just more expensive and overpaid flops hard to sell off. Poch twice turned down Tielemans btw... who just won his club the cup.

 

[99 Problems]

If this is true can’t blame Kane for thinking now is the time to move. Will be 28 next season coming into his peak, about to lead his country at home in a major tournament and is currently at a club who have no idea who their manager will be going forward.

The flip side is Spurs can’t replace him and can only go backwards if they let him go. They also know he loves the club too much to throw the toys out if they don’t sell.

Spurs shouldn’t sell, but every big club outside of probably the Germans is going to try and make this happen if he’s available. It’s pretty rare one of the best players of their generation becomes available at their peak.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Edersen.
Cancelo Dias. Laporte. Zink
Foden. Rodri. Kdb.
Silva Kane. Sterling

Torres. Gabriel. Stones. Mahrez. Etc etc.

Yep reckon that would work

 

[Marcel Proust]

Dan KP] Widely reported already but understand Kane believes he has a gentlemen's agreement with Levy that he can leave the club this summer, having asked to leave last summer but agreed to do another season

 

[Cruyff14]

Don't talk to me about recruitment teams. We had/have the worst in the league or at the very least, the worst final decision makers.

There has been resentment from fans against Levy for a long time and the ESL stuff was not well received by Spurs fans. Your owners are similar to Uniteds in a way. You will spend enough to get close but whenever you get close, you won't spend the required amount to get over the line the next season or to buy depth players so that you can compete on all fronts.

Edu and Vinai say hello.

 

[Magma]

Even if City got Kane it doesn't make them unbeatable. Kane would be a striker that they'd have to change tactics for and maybe it doesn't work.

Messi would be a much bigger get for them. Not much would need to change.

we put crosses on the head of gabby so clearly all that needs to change would be kane taking corners

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Edu and Vinai say hello.

Woody is leaving at the end of the season to be replaced by Richard Arnold, a banker who loves rugby union and has no interest in football. All transfers are signed off finally by Joel Glazer who decides whether or not players are worth the transfer fee...

 

[Cruyff14]

Woody is leaving at the end of the season to be replaced by Richard Arnold, a banker who loves rugby union and has no interest in football. All transfers are signed off finally by Joel Glazer who decides whether or not players are worth the transfer fee...

Hopefully he wants to buy Willian then

 

[RossFC]

 

[Bradesmaen]

Was out of contract with us from memory, a wasted fat sam 20mill.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Similar and different.
Unlike the Glazers there is little evidence ours actively withdraw funds from the club. They've just spent a lot of it on capital works.

So for the pre-poch period you could certainly say 'won't'. Now though I think it is more 'can't'.. without becoming store bought fc. To either BoE (taxpayer) or a series of banks I think we still owe a billion pounds plus.

But that is by and large my point about spending, how much isn't as relevant as how well, you certainly need both though. The cash and the wherewithal. We chased Dias and Skriniar all window as an example. One was chased by a club bigger and better than us so was never going to select us over City. The other was at Inter and everyone knows what Italian clubs are like with transfers. Was futile in the end. Meanwhile Leicester has replaced slabhead with Soyuncu (season before) for a 3rd of the cost. Mahrez has become Maddison for less. Chilwell for Justin for less. Now Fofana for less than our targets and not much more than we spent on a prospect from Swansea. Castagne certainly better value than Doherty.

West Ham getting value out of Soucek and Coufal. Found a use for Lingard. Bowen was relatively cheap.

If we aspire to swim in the same pool as United, City, Chelsea then the money invested in capital works will help with that. We couldn't compete without it, and the last set of accounts before covid had us iirc earning more than Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. So clearly there is a cashcow there. But we won't do much with that extra cash with a bloke as useless as Scott Clayton (sorry chef ) buying the players, just more expensive and overpaid flops hard to sell off. Poch twice turned down Tielemans btw... who just won his club the cup.

Yeah, we turned down Tielemans too. I guess you need to hope that you don't turn into Arsenal who just don't buy decent players for about 10 years because they need to repay the debt.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Hopefully he wants to buy Willian then

nobody is that stupid

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yeah, we turned down Tielemans too. I guess you need to hope that you don't turn into Arsenal who just don't buy decent players for about 10 years because they need to repay the debt.

More worried that they had Wenger to steer that ship with universal control on transfers. Could spot a young player well.
We don't have someone of that calibre and a complete donkey in charge of recruitment. Probably scouts off FIFA.

nobody is that stupid

Well one definitely is... or was

 

[Bradesmaen]

nobody is that stupid