Transfer discussion thread

[wadistance]

Interesting to see if Newcastle can actually lure anyone with this money they’ve got now


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[pantskyle]

They are still Newcastle.

Don't think it will be the same as when City got the cash, much easier time then to buy up for a lot less than clubs are charging now.

 

[RPCB]

They are still Newcastle.

Don't think it will be the same as when City got the cash, much easier time then to buy up for a lot less than clubs are charging now.

That’s true. Look at someone like Mbappe who has turned down PSG’s contracts at every turn because he wants to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, Real Madrid. Can you imagine someone like Mbappe even considering Newcastle United? Newcastle are starting years behind the likes of City and PSG that can attract these stars because they have great squads.

 

[pantskyle]

They also need to get one of the best managers in the world to kick start any player signing spree.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Inevitable that they rise isn’t it. How many oil backed clubs haven’t?

 

[SM]

They are still Newcastle.

Don't think it will be the same as when City got the cash, much easier time then to buy up for a lot less than clubs are charging now.

Really? City took a few years to get top calibre players, didn't they sign players like Bellamy, Bridge, Given in that first transfer window, with only Robinho a big money signing? With all these clubs there's a certain amount of mid-tier talent they have to bring in before they can get the very best, although I'm sure if they offer 1m a week anyone would come.

 

[RossFC]

I wonder who will be left in the current Newcastle squad in 3-4 years. Just Saint-Maximin perhaps?

 

[pantskyle]

Really? City took a few years to get top calibre players, didn't they sign players like Bellamy, Bridge, Given in that first transfer window, with only Robinho a big money signing? With all these clubs there's a certain amount of mid-tier talent they have to bring in before they can get the very best, although I'm sure if they offer 1m a week anyone would come.

Robinho was a very big signing for them. Lot different to spending 40m on what at the time was a massive signing compared to now where they'll be quoted closer to 100m if not more.

 

[Zidane98]

That’s true. Look at someone like Mbappe who has turned down PSG’s contracts at every turn because he wants to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, Real Madrid. Can you imagine someone like Mbappe even considering Newcastle United? Newcastle are starting years behind the likes of City and PSG that can attract these stars because they have great squads.

Makes sense in that regard. If its money Mbappe wants he could just play off Newacastle (Saudi Arabia)'s contract offer. The Qataris would only be too happy to beat them to his signature and the bidding war would be unlike we've ever seen.

I think we will see Mbappe in January go and sign a pre-contract deal with Real despite advances from the Saudis.

 

[SM]

Makes sense in that regard. If its money Mbappe wants he could just play off Newacastle (Saudi Arabia)'s contract offer. The Qataris would only be too happy to beat them to his signature and the bidding war would be unlike we've ever seen.

I think we will see Mbappe in January go and sign a pre-contract deal with Real despite advances from the Saudis.

How much will FFP affect Newcastle? Presumably could just bring in a couple of new sponsors?

 

[Zidane98]

How much will FFP affect Newcastle? Presumably could just bring in a couple of new sponsors?

FFP is currently changing over to a NBA style salary cap. Rules are currently relaxed due to the pandemic. Not sure what the exact current regulations are.

 

[dirty2]

NBA style?

 

[Zidane98]

I can see Newcastle going after the following list of players:


Pogba (freebie)
Mbappe (freebie - but more likely to choose RM)
Raheem Sterling
One of Mane or Salah if they haven't signed a new deal.
Lingard (freebie)
Haaland (75m transfer fee + 75m agent fee to Mino should see the deal done)
Rudiger (freebie - they'll smash Bayern's 300k/week offer)
Whichever CB out of the 4 at City feel they're not getting enough game time, probably Ake.
Marcus Alonso (Chilwell is gonna be the long term LB at Chelsea and they'll just double his salary, should be able to get him for a reasonable deal with 1 year left)
Harry Kane and give Spurs the 200m Levy wants.
Ter Stegen, just make Barca an offer they can't refuse and they'll sell.


Obviously they're not gonna sign all these because that would be crazy but these seem logical targets for them.

 

[Zidane98]

NBA style?

UEFA set to overhaul Financial Fair Play rules later this year with a luxury tax and salary cap being considered

In 2020, UEFA gave greater financial powers to club owners due to the fragile economic circumstances caused by Covid-19; Romelu Lukaku has become the most expensive player in terms of combined transfer fees with £97.5m return to Chelsea while Lionel Messis PSG deal is worth £25m-a-year

www.skysports.com

 

[Zidane98]

They are still Newcastle.

Don't think it will be the same as when City got the cash, much easier time then to buy up for a lot less than clubs are charging now.

One thing in their favour is the sheer amount of quality players coming out of contract this summer which is insane. They can blow anyone out of the water with their contract offers.

Pogba was supposed to be getting 400k/week offers from PSG, well Newcastle's Saudi owners will surely be happy to give him 5-600k/week to sign on a freebie at the end of the season. I can only imagine it will make getting Pogba to sign a new contract very difficult for you guys right now.

Back in 2008 when City got their oil money I can't remember any significantly high profile players available on a freebie.

 

[Cruyff14]

One thing in their favour is the sheer amount of quality players coming out of contract this summer which is insane. They can blow anyone out of the water with their contract offers.

Pogba was supposed to be getting 400k/week offers from PSG, well Newcastle's Saudi owners will surely be happy to give him 5-600k/week to sign on a freebie at the end of the season. I can only imagine it will make getting Pogba to sign a new contract very difficult for you guys right now.

Back in 2008 when City got their oil money I can't remember any significantly high profile players available on a freebie.

English clubs cannot approach players in England and sign them on a free transfer.

 

[pantskyle]

One thing in their favour is the sheer amount of quality players coming out of contract this summer which is insane. They can blow anyone out of the water with their contract offers.

Pogba was supposed to be getting 400k/week offers from PSG, well Newcastle's Saudi owners will surely be happy to give him 5-600k/week to sign on a freebie at the end of the season. I can only imagine it will make getting Pogba to sign a new contract very difficult for you guys right now.

Back in 2008 when City got their oil money I can't remember any significantly high profile players available on a freebie.

I'm sure it all sounds viable but those players aren't going to Newcastle.

 

[Zidane98]

English clubs cannot approach players in England and sign them on a free transfer.

They can't but lets be honest it happens all the time. The deal itself can't be inked until 1 July 2022 but that won't stop talks going on behind the scenes.

 

[drd23]

English clubs cannot approach players in England and sign them on a free transfer.

They can't sign them to a pre-contract in January like continental teams can. Not being able to sign players as a free transfer would be against the Bosman rule

 

[Cruyff14]

They can't sign them to a pre-contract in January like continental teams can. Not being able to sign players as a free transfer would be against the Bosman rule

You know what I meant haha

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Will take time for Newcastle to bring in high profile names, can’t see them getting a Pogba, Mbappe, Haaland etc.

 

[moomba]

Will be interesting to see what Newcastle can do in January. Already a few names flying around (Sterling, Alli) but more people guessing at the moment I feel.

Think they need to get a top manager/coach first, then look to see who they can get.

 

[Zidane98]

Will be interesting to see what Newcastle can do in January. Already a few names flying around (Sterling, Alli) but more people guessing at the moment I feel.

Think they need to get a top manager/coach first, then look to see who they can get.

It sounds like Bruce is gone going off what he is saying. No talk on who they've got lined up.

 

[SM]

Interesting snip from this article around the takeover:

They are not going to throw money at it straight away. They want to invest gradually in the months and years ahead. There is a lot that needs improving at this football club - the infrastructure, the stadium, the academy - all of these need investment and I think that will be one of their priorities.

Newcastle United takeover Q&A: How and why Newcastle have become one of the world's richest football clubs

Saudi Arabias Public Investment Fund (PIF) will take a controlling 80 per cent stake in Newcastle in takeover deal worth £300m; What next for Steve Bruce, Mike Ashley and what does it mean for Newcastle going forward?

www.skysports.com

Ironically they are looking to do things gradually and in a sustainable manner. Which surprises me a bit. I think they'd want to invest a fair amount in January to ensure they stay up though.

 

[DBAH0]

It sounds like Bruce is gone going off what he is saying. No talk on who they've got lined up.

Heard Lampard get rumored today.

That would be well interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if Pellegrini went for it if it became available.