Transfer discussion thread

[Marcel Proust]

Playing back up could harm Richarlison’s World Cup chances

Wouldn’t you be better off spending that kind of money and most of the spending on starters? Conte wants another mid, cb and wing back (couple) that are surely higher priority. You can get a wide forward for much cheaper and not that much worse.

Doubt you’re spending £250m in one window. Is this on top of the £70m due for Romero and Kulevski?

Spurs are likely rooted when Kane and son slow down. It'd the right idea topping up now.

They might still land a defender.

On a right note apparently Tottenham are in more debt than Barca iirc

 

[jd2010]

Says it all really someone thinking Richarlison and Son could function together. Both play the exact same role

 

[Marcel Proust]

No chance. Kulusevski is nailed on ahead of him. 10 assists in less than 20 apps since joining in January.

Doesn't mean he will be better next season and there are a lot of games.

Big teams need more than 11 players and of spurs want to compete the Brazilian wouldn't hurt.

Assuming they can fill the other spots needed. You assume levy knows what he's doing (?)

 

[Marcel Proust]

Says it all really someone thinking Richarlison and Son could function together. Both play the exact same role

If you can play with raphinha and Neymar why can you function with the spurs attack?

He'd likely not be first 11 but stranger things have happened

 

[SM]

This is a strange hill Jd is dying on.

Richy would be a great signing for Spurs.

 

[Magma]

it gives spurs greater flexibility too. in all comps, spurs scored 85 goals. 51 of those were scored by kane or son. imo it's not sustainable to expect that return season on season. and throw in the demands of international football these days, top players are playing insane amounts of football. i think next season in particular will see some of the heaviest rotation seen amongst top clubs in world football.

 

[SM]

5 subs also means someone like Richy at Spurs would still play significant minutes across the season regardless of whether he starts or not.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

This is a strange hill Jd is dying on.

Richy would be a great signing for Spurs.

This is about the 50th strange hill I’ve seen him try to die on.

All have the same litany of post in succession, almost as if you can see his ideas and views being formed on the run.

A couple things I do know.

1. Has whinged in the past to the point of #ENICOUT over their lack of ambition and not putting funds in (a move I fundamentally am against btw, but that’s another discussion for another time).

This summer they’ve done that

2. Has been displeased as the calibre of player or lack-thereof we target.

Pretty much been targeting quality footballers so far. Signed 1 to date.

3. Displeased at the lack of CF back up present. An issue journos reiterate every window as being a problem due to having a no.1 CF too good for others to compete with.

We continue to spend 25-30m max on the solution and we’ll keep getting Janssen and Vinicius type solutions that are ill fitting.

£50-60m for a premier league proven Richarlison is a far better bet. And again who gives a shit about the price. We have a shitload of money to spend this summer.

Sorry Cruyff14 but we’re largely talking across purposes here. Neither are really disagreeing with each other.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Playing back up could harm Richarlison’s World Cup chances

Wouldn’t you be better off spending that kind of money and most of the spending on starters? Conte wants another mid, cb and wing back (couple) that are surely higher priority. You can get a wide forward for much cheaper and not that much worse.

Doubt you’re spending £250m in one window. Is this on top of the £70m due for Romero and Kulevski?

Well we have £150m from the owners which is stated as being available for transfers and can be drawn over the course of this season. So either the summer or winter.

Add in our usual transfer budgeting from TV, commercial and matchday revenue + non-football activities (NFL, Boxing, Concerts) and then add sales on top of that.

150m is the conservative amount to speculate. They are chips all in on Conte.

 

[SM]

Playing back up could harm Richarlison’s World Cup chances

Wouldn’t you be better off spending that kind of money and most of the spending on starters? Conte wants another mid, cb and wing back (couple) that are surely higher priority. You can get a wide forward for much cheaper and not that much worse.

Doubt you’re spending £250m in one window. Is this on top of the £70m due for Romero and Kulevski?

Playing at a larger club will help his WC chances. With 5 subs it's not like he's going to go weeks without playing.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Richarlison did say earlier this season that he prefers to play as central striker …maybe Arsenal or Chelsea a better fit

 

[jd2010]

Makes more sense trying to find the next Bowen who can develop training with world class players in front of him rather than a good PL player who is already a NT player. If Bergwijn who scores for fun for Holland couldn't get a look in and eventually cracked it and is leaving, why will it be any different for Richarlison and his ego?

 

[jd2010]

This is a strange hill Jd is dying on.

Richy would be a great signing for Spurs.

I'd rather your boy LKP as our backup LW

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Conte don't buy for development. He buys for now.
All our major signings will be in that vein.

Trying to find the next Bowen is not likely under Conte. It will be a player established already.

 

[SM]

I'd rather your boy LKP as our backup LW

Who's LKP?

 

[jd2010]

If we sign Richarlison and he scores 10+ league goals and we improve on 4th in the league I'll have Sol Campbell as my avatar for a year. That's how confident I am this signing either wont happen or won't work out well

 

[jd2010]

Who's LKP?

Ha great typo KLP

 

[SM]

Ha great typo KLP

So you reckon spending 20-25m on a kid who is nowhere near ready for the PL is better value than 60m on Richy?

 

[jd2010]

So you reckon spending 20-25m on a kid who is nowhere near ready for the PL is better value than 60m on Richy?

Yeah for the role in question I do. If he can get to the Bowen level playing as a backup and training with world class players then it's a great option. If its not him who is at that level and is under 23 then find an equivalent. 60m doesn't need to go on a backup unless you're the mega rich. We aren't there even with the 150m kitty

I'd rather LKP+Torres/Gavridol to Richarlison+Lenglet when neither KLP or Richarlison start over Son-Kane-Kulu.

Damn auto correct I don't want to sign Potter anymore!

 

[SM]

Yeah for the role in question I do. If he can get to the Bowen level playing as a backup and training with world class players then it's a great option.

I'd rather KLP+Torres/Gavridol to Richarlison+Lenglet when neither KLP or Richarlison start over Son-Kane-Kulu

Bowen got to the level he did playing consistently in the Championship as the focal point of a side and then moving to a West Ham side who played to his strengths, not by sitting on the bench for 2-3 years like Sessegnon did.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yeah for the role in question I do. If he can get to the Bowen level playing as a backup and training with world class players then it's a great option. If its not him who is at that level and is under 23 then find an equivalent. 60m doesn't need to go on a backup unless you're the mega rich. We aren't there even with the 150m kitty

I'd rather KLP+Torres/Gavridol to Richarlison+Lenglet when neither KLP or Richarlison start over Son-Kane-Kulu

Same problems as always. You don't keep up to date with reliable news.
Choosing to listen to nuffies like T.Lloyd and the Extra Inch..

Then make incorrect assumptions.
At some point you need to get a scooby doo.

Lenglet has been offered to a few clubs, and by all reports we will only consider him if Bastoni, Torres, Bremer are unattainable and money doesn't seem to be the obstacle. So your false assumption is spending on a CF will impact the CB signing. It won't.

Conte isn't buying prospects.
He is after experienced pros that will help us win next season.

 

[Frank Bunn]

An injury to Kane or Son and Richarlison will start every week. Its a good signing if it is pulled off.

Maybe. Previously when Kane has been unavailable Son plays a more central role, such as when they beat City last season with a front three of Moura, Son, Bergwijn. They have already upgraded Bergwijn for Kulusevski. If Son is unavailable or being subbed out I think Perišić on the left side would be a better option than Richi. Moura is underrated and can do anything Richarlison can do if not better. I can see Richi starting for Spurs games in the League cup and FA cup.

 

[jd2010]

60m spent wisely upgrades ever starter in our best XI bar Romero, Son, Kane, Kulusevski and maybe Lloris. That's why it's not a smart signing. I love Eric Dier but if we could get an amazing CB for 60m to take his spot I would in a heartbeat. We still have holes in our starting XI compared to the top 3, so why upgrade the bench when that money could get you an elite CM which we don't have, or an elite starter RWB or an elite starter LCB

 

[jd2010]

Same problems as always. You don't keep up to date with reliable news.
Choosing to listen to nuffies like T.Lloyd and the Extra Inch..

Then make incorrect assumptions.
At some point you need to get a scooby doo.

Lenglet has been offered to a few clubs, and by all reports we will only consider him if Bastoni, Torres, Bremer are unattainable and money doesn't seem to be the obstacle. So your false assumption is spending on a CF will impact the CB signing. It won't.

Conte isn't buying prospects.
He is after experienced pros that will help us win next season.

Isn't buying prospects. Literally the same day you say we are close to Djed Spence.....

 

[jd2010]

Bowen got to the level he did playing consistently in the Championship as the focal point of a side and then moving to a West Ham side who played to his strengths, not by sitting on the bench for 2-3 years like Sessegnon did.

And yet look how well Sess did this season with a world class coach and squad. He displaced our starter there.