Transfer discussion thread

[Zidane98]

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Buy 1 get one free?

 

[chef]

There was one you wanted last year that is now being made available from Barcelona....

Yeah that did make me laugh. I wonder if Arsenal will go back in for him.

 

[chef]

Buy 1 get one free?

We may have too haha.

 

[Magma]

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who do you reckon will be the most surprising one sold?

 

[Sphynx]

Yeah that did make me laugh. I wonder if Arsenal will go back in for him.

Barcelona have slapped a €100m price tag on him, after sandbagging us all transfer window about overvaluing him, being unrealistic, inflating the transfer market etc

 

[chef]

who do you reckon will be the most surprising one sold?

The longer Mount goes on without signing I guess you could say him. He wants more than we are prepared to give and he's in the last 18 months of his contract. If we add Nkunku and Felix permanently he may not be as essential as he was. Plus he's picking a bad time to regress. Though I want him to stay. Maybe Kovacic too, he's in the same 18 month to go boat.

Thats for me to be surprised though, I think theres a dozen or so that'll move on and Chelsea supporters will be fine with it. The squad needs an overhaul badly.

 

[joop]

Barcelona have slapped a €100m price tag on him, after sandbagging us all transfer window about overvaluing him, being unrealistic, inflating the transfer market etc

Raph is coming back to us.

 

[moomba]

Yeah its for amortization purposes.

You must be skating fairly close to the edge if that is the reason. Maybe a £4-5m year difference in annual costs, but you end up committing tens of millions in salary for that benefit.

 

[chef]

You must be skating fairly close to the edge if that is the reason. Maybe a £4-5m year difference in annual costs, but you end up committing tens of millions in salary for that benefit.

I guess they all add up. Pretty sure all of our under 25 signings this season have been either 6 or 7 year deals, its just how we do it now.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

The appeal to me is hes a left footed right-winger. Something we lack and tbh theres not a heap available atm.

You already have a very good one.

 

[chef]

You already have a very good one.

Zyiech?

Hes just not consistent enough imo. Not sure hes really been allowed to settle though too, sounds like he wants out anyway.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Zyiech?

Hes just not consistent enough imo. Not sure hes really been allowed to settle though too, sounds like he wants out anyway.

If you keep buying players that do well at other clubs and poorly at your club then you need to look at other factors rather than the players. At the moment, players seem to get worse when they move to Chelsea rather than better. Same thing has been happening at my club for a decade so I know what it looks like. Only this season I can look at players and see they are improving week to week. Before United bought Antony I was quite keen to buy/loan Ziyech but you guys wouldn't sell him to us. He's a good player.

 

[Northalives]

The January transfer window is very problematic. It's not where you find the real top notchers because the real good ones are focused at their clubs and putting in and not on the periphery or whinging and carrying on.

Sometimes of course, clubs with big doe can prise away decent players from clubs but that is not very often. Big spending Newcastle bought 3 from memory and ironically, the best and most influential one of those in my opinion, has been Kieran Trippier and they don't want to lose him to injury because that would be a savage blow to them. Big money Liverpool bought Diaz who's been out injured and Villa bought Digne for 25 mill and he hasn't exactly been revolutionary.

It's the summer window that is the critical one.

 

[Bradesmaen]

The January transfer window is very problematic. It's not where you find the real top notchers because the real good ones are focused at their clubs and putting in and not on the periphery or whinging and carrying on.

Sometimes of course, clubs with big doe can prise away decent players from clubs but that is not very often. Big spending Newcastle bought 3 from memory and ironically, the best and most influential one of those in my opinion, has been Kieran Trippier and they don't want to lose him to injury because that would be a savage blow to them. Big money Liverpool bought Diaz who's been out injured and Villa bought Digne for 25 mill and he hasn't exactly been revolutionary.

It's the summer window that is the critical one.

There's been a few good ones like Bruno G, Suarez, Evra, Vidic etc who came in a january window.

 

[Northalives]

If you keep buying players that do well at other clubs and poorly at your club then you need to look at other factors rather than the players. At the moment, players seem to get worse when they move to Chelsea rather than better. Same thing has been happening at my club for a decade so I know what it looks like. Only this season I can look at players and see they are improving week to week. Before United bought Antony I was quite keen to buy/loan Ziyech but you guys wouldn't sell him to us. He's a good player.

Man Utd are starting to show the benifits of having a proper disciplinarian and intelligent coach once more. They were always going to struggle ofter the incomparable Alex Ferguson because they bought on fashion, paid shit loads and the disciplines that Ferguson put in place were dismantled. The new guy has got rid of the dross, whether they were being paid a billion or ten quid and has got United playing good, United type football where the team is important and not the individual.

Chelsea have always been a "get em in, get 'em out" club and that goes for managers as well but now, they've pulled a master blunder by getting rid of Tuchel with no offence intended to Potter. It is the Man. United syndrome where players whose egos don't match their abilities have been lumbered with ..... who? That's the mentality and given that Chelsea have an ageing/aged squad with brittle players, they are in for a horrid time I reckon. There's no Abramovich now either and for all his money, he actually had an idea about football, more than an idea if the truth be told.

 

[Northalives]

There's been a few good ones like Bruno G, Suarez, Evra, Vidic etc who came in a January window.

That covers a lot of years and there is always a gem or two to be found but in the Summer, there are jewels everywhere.

 

[Northalives]

Would be an upgrade on Lloris at least.

Lloris was a real favourite of mine but as all players do, his abilities started to wane because of age or whatever. He was very nervy and a real problem I thought at the World Cup before the 2022 one and I reckoned he needed to bow out gracefully as a World Cup winner and not ruin his legacy by hanging around too long.

At the 2022 World Cup though, I rubbed my eyes in disbelief at how competent he was and I was very happy for him but unfortunately, back to the Premier League and back to his and his teams detriment. He should have had a tap on the shoulder 2 or 3 years ago.

 

[Northalives]

Arsenal need someone who can step up if Saka / Martinelli are out and also play at CF.

Would be surprised if they dont buy someone this window.

Under this management, they'll only buy if they get what they think is the right player. They just don't buy for the sake of buying anymore which, from a financial and footballing point of view makes a lot of sense.

I'd love to be able to go to Wolves and say "here's a x millions, give us Neves" and then go around to Neve's joint and say "you're playing for us now, no questions." - doesn't happen like that though. Neves at Arsenal would be superb as he is very much an Arsenal type player and would give us a massive boost in quality to call upon right in the guts of midfield when needed.

I'm not really concerned with forward type players because Arsenal's goalscoring isn't reliant on just one player and if Saka and/or Martinelli are out, then there's young Marquinhos who would razzle dazzle defences but not in Saka's or Martinelli's league as yet, Reiss Nelson will be back by mid Feb, there's Smith -Rowe who's back so there is a bit of cover and hopefully, Jesus will be back by mid March for the last dozen games or so but again, Arsenal's goalscoring comes from many sources.

The most important aspect though, is their midfield domination of oppositions and that is where Xhaka and Partey are critical to the side. Ødegaard's a cracking good player but Vieira, who is now fully fit and has come to terms with the brutality of British football, is absolutely no slouch and good cover for the Captain.

It is in central midfield that Arsenal are desperate for depth of quality and if they can hang onto a top four spot and qualify for the Champions League which does seem very likely, then top quality players will be willing to be rotated through the Premier and Champion's League. It is only natural that players want to play and the real top quality ones won't entertain going to a club where there is a distinct possibility that they will spend a lot of their time on the bench.

If Arsenal can convince Neves, for example, to come over now with the promise of Champions League and plenty of games in the future, then the Gunners WILL win the league. I keep being told by friends in London that Arsenal are very serious about Rabiot as well and he too would be a brilliant signing at this stage of the season for the Gunners.

 

[chef]

If you keep buying players that do well at other clubs and poorly at your club then you need to look at other factors rather than the players. At the moment, players seem to get worse when they move to Chelsea rather than better. Same thing has been happening at my club for a decade so I know what it looks like. Only this season I can look at players and see they are improving week to week. Before United bought Antony I was quite keen to buy/loan Ziyech but you guys wouldn't sell him to us. He's a good player.

Yeah i do agree with that, im just not sold on Zyiech being a consistently good player(he was very good against Palace to his credit). I guess hes got a big opportunity now with our injuries to prove me wrong though.

 

[chef]

 

[RPCB]

That’s okay. I never wanted him anyway.

 

[chef]

That’s okay. I never wanted him anyway.

TBH you already have a better DM and Rice isn't having a great season.

 

[RPCB]

TBH you already have a better DM and Rice isn't having a great season.

I would certainly target Bellingham before Rice in any case.

 

[chef]

I would certainly target Bellingham before Rice in any case.

Or Enzo

 

[Bradesmaen]

TBH you already have a better DM and Rice isn't having a great season.

Rice not having a great season is still better than Casemiro cause he can actually defend.