Transfer discussion thread

[jd2010]

Not sure what you think clubs and agents discuss when they talk about players making moves other than new wages

 

[jd2010]

Is approaching our player without asking us first and then bidding on him in public without even having contacted us to discuss placing a bid for him against the rules?

If they've broken rules, lodge it. Wouldn't be the first to do it. If its been proven they've tapped up a player they'll be easily caught

 

[Bostonian]

Not sure what you think clubs and agents discuss when they talk about players making moves other than new wages

So what you're saying is that it's all good if agents and the clubs who don't own players orchestrate a deal behind the scenes without the other clubs and force the team who owns the player into selling them not on their terms.

 

[Bostonian]

If they've broken rules, lodge it. Wouldn't be the first to do it. If its been proven they've tapped up a player they'll be easily caught

You're deluded if you think the piss weak PL would do anything.

Look at the pathetic penalties they handed out to the slimy 6 for trying to destroy the PL.

 

[Bostonian]

Im not going to pretend its on the same level but we do lose players to other clubs.

At AFL level i know your pain x 100.

Every clubs losses players.

Just some clubs act with far more respect towards the other clubs when they deal with them and their players.

 

[SM]

Are we going to be subjected to an equivalent melt every time Brighton has a player want to leave?

 

[jd2010]

You're deluded if you think the piss weak PL would do anything.

Look at the pathetic penalties they handed out to the slimy 6 for trying to destroy the PL.

Theyve done it before. Are the punishments harsh enough? No. But it's the rule makers issue not the clubs. Clubs play to the rules in place. Step outside them get punished. Punishment is too weak then people do as they please and weak clubs allow it.

Balls completely in Brighton's court here.

A) Hold to their guns that he isnt for sale for anything less than 100m.

B) refuse to negotiate at all and report the two clubs for tapping him up.

C) Buckle and take under 100m.

About time a club much smaller in stature stood up for themselves, it's not like Brighton are cash strapped either. Rather than just playing the poor small victims all the time taking option C. Stick to A and B and make a stand or shut the **** up

 

[SM]

It's not like Brighton need the money so they have absolutely no reason to cave.

 

[jd2010]

It's not like Brighton need the money so they have absolutely no reason to cave.

Yep. I feel for them that it's so late in the window. But at the same time just ask for something stupid like 80m and don't move from that. They've gone extreme and 100m.

Just stick to their guns. Start looking at replacements probably worth 20-40m who they will have to spend 60-70m on and get on with it.

Like they have with every other sale, just with bigger numbers involved

 

[SM]

Yep. I feel for them that it's so late in the window. But at the same time just ask for something stupid like 80m and don't move from that. They've gone extreme and 100m.

Just stick to their guns. Start looking at replacements probably worth 20-40m who they will have to spend 60-70m on and get on with it.

Like they have with every other sale, just with bigger numbers involved

Don't even think they need to be paying that much for a replacement judging by their recruitment model. Just pick up some unknown Japanese/South American player who'll be a gun in 12 months.

But again as said before they really need to be revisiting their wage structure to ensure they retain more players going forward. Soton are a cautionary tale.

 

[RPCB]

Brighton supporters when they sell Caicedo….. for £100 million.

 

[Bostonian]

Don't even think they need to be paying that much for a replacement judging by their recruitment model. Just pick up some unknown Japanese/South American player who'll be a gun in 12 months.

But again as said before they really need to be revisiting their wage structure to ensure they retain more players going forward. Soton are a cautionary tale.

And how many clubs are a cautionary tale of paying over inflated wages?

 

[Bostonian]

Brighton supporters when they sell Caicedo….. for £100 million.

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Why would we be happy when our best season ever could be totally derailed by this?

 

[SM]

And how many clubs are a cautionary tale of paying over inflated wages?

Is it over-inflated wages? Based on what metric?

You want to compete for the top 6 and not have to cry every two months about a player leaving? Pay them what their ability suggests they're worth. Sustainably of course, I'm not saying rip up any wage structure, just revise it based on your increased income.

 

[RPCB]

Why would we be happy when our best season ever could be totally derailed by this?

It was a joke mate. I hope you do keep Caicedo and re-asses the situation in the summer. If your owners think Caicedo helping Brighton get into Europe is better than getting an extra £30-40 million in a transfer fee (and it is), they shouldn't sell him right now.

 

[Cruyff14]

Another day, another Bostonian melt.

Every club loses players, we've been subject to it too.

 

[Bostonian]

It was a joke mate. I hope you do keep Caicedo and re-asses the situation in the summer. If your owners think Caicedo helping Brighton get into Europe is better than getting an extra £30-40 million in a transfer fee (and it is), they shouldn't sell him right now.

His price won't go down over the last part of the season even if he stays.

He's contracted until 2025.

It's the way the the clubs and the agents have created this situation and trying to railroad it through is the disgusting part.

 

[Bostonian]

Another day, another Bostonian melt.

Every club loses players, we've been subject to it too.

Who was the last club that bid on your players without speaking to you first and getting the player to tell the world they want out?

 

[SM]

Who was the last club that bid on your players without speaking to you first and getting the player to tell the world they want out?

Fabregas maybe? I'm sure there's a more recent one.

 

[Cruyff14]

Who was the last club that bid on your players without speaking to you first and getting the player to tell the world they want out?

Barcelona. Fabregas.

Probably RvP from memory. I'm sure there are others.

 

[Bostonian]

Fabregas maybe? I'm sure there's a more recent one.

That was an offseason move.

The clubs had also had informal discussions prior to a bid being made.

Neither Chelsea or Arsenal had contacted our people before placing bids.

 

[Bostonian]

Barcelona. Fabregas.

Probably RvP from memory. I'm sure there are others.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment.

"However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain."


So they had spoken to you prior to making a bid and Fabregas hadn't come out in the press looking to force the move then either.

 

[SM]

That was an offseason move.

The clubs had also had informal discussions prior to a bid being made.

Neither Chelsea or Arsenal had contacted our people before placing bids.

Why does it being offseason make a difference? He was tapped up for ages.

 

[Cruyff14]

No, Barcelona kept declaring their admiration for him. No official bid was made for a long time, and they were talking about him in the media for months.

And it being off season doesn't make a difference, stop shifting the goalposts to try and help your argument.

I reckon the only clubs who wouldn't have players tapped are up are Madrid, Barca and Bayern.

Brighton aren't the only club to suffer this, time to stop having a whinge and get over it mate.

 

[Bostonian]

Why does it being offseason make a difference? He was tapped up for ages.

Well gee, maybe it's because you can find a replacement for that player in the off season and it gives the clubs plenty of time to work a deal out.