Transfer discussion thread

[RossFC]

 

[jod23]

Net spend since 2018/19. I think people haven't woken up to the fact that we've done exactly as we've said we would. Spend big to get us from a position where we couldnt compete, and then things get easier. Now we still spend plenty, but it's filling one or two positions rather than 5 or 6, and with that being the case we can focus on quality.

It's why IMO clubs should never be discourage, or criticised for pushing the boat out as long as they aren't putting the club in danger financially.


9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)


10) Manchester City: £-224.97m
22/23: £8.3m
21/22: £-39.81m (Champions)
20/21: £-96.56m (Champions)
19/20: £-78.13m (2nd)
18/19: £-18.54m (Champions)

Yeah we get that but go back further and you see how City's money just piles up. Of course it gets to a point where you have to spend very little now to maintain where you're at. It was the same when United rules the PL, they would buy just one top player every year, City are pretty similar now.




As you can see, we are very far behind City when it comes to spending money.

 

[jod23]

Would pool fans rather spend all the budget on just Bellingham or spend it on 3 CMs?

Bellingham please.

I've said this earlier I think in this thread but Liverpool used to do this shit all the time back in the day. Buy 3 players for 30 million while United would buy one 30 million pound player.

We can guess which method worked out better.

I'd rather us just buy Bellingham and then play him and a mixture of Thiago, Fabinho, Henderson and Bajcetic next season. Then buy another mid in the summer of 2024.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Yeah we get that but go back further and you see how City's money just piles up. Of course it gets to a point where you have to spend very little now to maintain where you're at. It was the same when United rules the PL, they would buy just one top player every year, City are pretty similar now.

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As you can see, we are very far behind City when it comes to spending money.

Why not take it back 50 years? I mean every time the goal posts shift. It was 2018, before that it was when Klopp started, all disproven so now you reach back to 2013 to cover your arses.

If you go back the last 2 years we've had -54million net spend. WE WIN!

 

[jod23]

Why not take it back 50 years? I mean every time the goal posts shift. It was 2018, before that it was when Klopp started, all disproven so now you reach back to 2013 to cover your arses.

I mean sure we can go back as long as you like.

Nobody is crying poor Liverpool, we have no money etc.

All we're saying is that there are levels.

Liverpool are massively wealthy, I think the last list I saw had us as the 7th or 8th richest team on the planet. We get it, we're rich. We have more money than most. But then there is City which is an entirely different level of money.

I know you're not stupid. If you have the most money, you generally win the league. You know that as well as anyone. United used to have the most money so they won almost every year. Now City easily have the most money (before Newcastle rise of course) and you guessed it they have won 4 of the past 5 years and probably win it again this year.

It's just facts.

 

[Gameova_]

I mean sure we can go back as long as you like.

Nobody is crying poor Liverpool, we have no money etc.

All we're saying is that there are levels.

Liverpool are massively wealthy, I think the last list I saw had us as the 7th or 8th richest team on the planet. We get it, we're rich. We have more money than most. But then there is City which is an entirely different level of money.

I know you're not stupid. If you have the most money, you generally win the league. You know that as well as anyone. United used to have the most money so they won almost every year. Now City easily have the most money (before Newcastle rise of course) and you guessed it they have won 4 of the past 5 years and probably win it again this year.

It's just facts.

Ok Mr Benitez

 

[Bradesmaen]

I mean sure we can go back as long as you like.

Nobody is crying poor Liverpool, we have no money etc.

All we're saying is that there are levels.

Liverpool are massively wealthy, I think the last list I saw had us as the 7th or 8th richest team on the planet. We get it, we're rich. We have more money than most. But then there is City which is an entirely different level of money.

I know you're not stupid. If you have the most money, you generally win the league. You know that as well as anyone. United used to have the most money so they won almost every year. Now City easily have the most money (before Newcastle rise of course) and you guessed it they have won 4 of the past 5 years and probably win it again this year.

It's just facts.

That is literally what you are doing.

Most money != Winning league. Best use of Money = winning the league.

 

[jod23]

That is literally what you are doing.

Most money != Winning league. Best use of Money = winning the league.

So we agree.

Good.

 

[Gameova_]

So we agree.

Good.

If your club is too poor to compete support another club and stop complaining

 

[Bradesmaen]

So we agree.

Good.

Agree that you are crying poor? Yep.

 

[Bradesmaen]

If your club is too poor to compete support another club and stop complaining

Surprised Jod isn't a city fan given his history of magically picking winning teams to support.

 

[Gameova_]

Surprised Jod isn't a city fan given his history of magically picking winning teams to support.

Be easy on Jod. Dude is still upset Michael Jordan retired

 

[moomba]

Yeah we get that but go back further and you see how City's money just piles up. Of course it gets to a point where you have to spend very little now to maintain where you're at. It was the same when United rules the PL, they would buy just one top player every year, City are pretty similar now.

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As you can see, we are very far behind City when it comes to spending money.

How long do you outspend us before you stop using an inability to compete with our spending as an excuse?

 

[jod23]

Surprised Jod isn't a city fan given his history of magically picking winning teams to support.

What are those winning teams exactly?

Eagles win a Premiership every once and a while. Liverpool under Klopp, great, before him, not so great. The Bulls havent won a title in 25 years.

Absolute glory hunter for sure.

 

[jod23]

Be easy on Jod. Dude is still upset Michael Jordan retired

 

[jod23]

How long do you outspend us before you stop using an inability to compete with our spending as an excuse?

I guess when we spend another 6-700 million and you spend 0 million. Then I think we'd be close to even over the journey.

 

[Gameova_]

What are those winning teams exactly?

Eagles win a Premiership every once and a while. Liverpool under Klopp, great, before him, not so great. The Bulls havent won a title in 25 years.

Absolute glory hunter for sure.

That Everton flog just got rekt tbh. Go to bed little bro whatever his name is

 

[Gameova_]

Whats my brother Cruyff14 up to.

Arsenal gonna win the league bruh. I hope they do to put a smile on your face.

 

[moomba]

I mean sure we can go back as long as you like.

Nobody is crying poor Liverpool, we have no money etc.

All we're saying is that there are levels.

Liverpool are massively wealthy, I think the last list I saw had us as the 7th or 8th richest team on the planet. We get it, we're rich. We have more money than most. But then there is City which is an entirely different level of money.

It's not really. you're using us as an excuse for your clubs poor season.

In 20/21 our revenue was £619m, yours was £594m. Third highest in the world.

 

[Gameova_]

It's not really. you're using us as an excuse for your clubs poor season.

In 20/21 our revenue was £619m, yours was £594m. Third highest in the world.

We challenged city for four years. It's got nothing to do with money right now. Did a few years ago when you kept pipping us to title.

Were just shit now coz players are washed

 

[jod23]

It's not really. you're using us as an excuse for your clubs poor season.

In 20/21 our revenue was £619m, yours was £594m. Third highest in the world.

It's not City's fault we're having a poor season. I'm not using City as an excuse at all.

We didnt spend enough money to compete with City. That's on us but also kinda hard to keep up with City over the long haul anyways.

It is what it is, I'm not complaining about it, we've done amazing with what we've had to work with under Klopp.

 

[moomba]

I guess when we spend another 6-700 million and you spend 0 million. Then I think we'd be close to even over the journey.

So you could outspend us by £20m a year for the next 30 years and Liverpool supporters will still be moaning that they can't compete?

Christ.

 

[jod23]

So you could outspend us by £20m a year for the next 30 years and Liverpool supporters will still be moaning that they can't compete?

Christ.

Why always so defensive? You know you have more money than everyone else which equals you winning most of the trophies. Just enjoy it mate.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

jack grealish isn't classified as a midfielder on transfermarkt

Goalkeeper?

 

[moomba]

Why always so defensive? You know you have more money than everyone else which equals you winning most of the trophies. Just enjoy it mate.

Don't confuse me pointing out how ridiculous it is for a Liverpool supporter to constantly cry poor with me defending our spending.

I have no need to defend our spending to anyone, we've spent a shitload and won plenty as a result.

I'm certainly enjoying it, although to be fair I loved it when we were skint and winning nothing.