Transfer Discussion Thread

[glenferry23]

jod23 persistently trying to cling onto that FSG/Liverpool don’t spend enough

 

[Zidane98]

jod23 persistently trying to cling onto that FSG/Liverpool don’t spend enough

They don't. They're only doing this because of the 52m received for Hendo & Fab and having literally no #6 in the squad for the start of the season. Really, we needed Caicedo to play alongside those two in the squad for a couple of years before they departed.


With all the departures this summer our wage bill has also reduced by nearly 1m a week. Realistically we should be outspending everyone this summer transfer window by miles, there was talk of a 250m net spend WARCHEST being available to Klopp but we're miles off that at the moment.


We still need another midfielder and another defender.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I’ll stand at my nearest set of lights with my tin rattle going. Let’s help poor Liverpool buy that extra midfielder and defender.

 

[Sphynx]

I think it's a smart buy for Liverpool, he's only 21 and already one of the best DM in the PL.

Owns that position at the club for 10 years and it's only 11 million a season avg.

Same was said of Enzo, Lukaku x 2, Havertz, Pogba, Antony, Sancho, Nunez, Pepe etc

Same is said every bloody year, it's ground hog day.

Same supporters will be trying to sell them in 2 years onto the next toy.


On historical precedent, there's more likelihood of him being a bust than even be worth that transfer fee. How many have ever worked out?

De Bruyne and Van Djik are the only two of the top 25 British transfers I'd consider have actually been even worth their fee, most of them are absolute busts.

The following is an absolutely horrific list:

 

[Jatz]

Bye Jurgen

 

[Sozabarus]

Bye Jurgen

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These “got ya”s are so lame. That was 7 years ago, the economics of football have changed in a way no one saw coming. He addressed this a couple of years ago.

 

[Bostonian]

Same was said of Enzo, Lukaku x 2, Havertz, Pogba, Antony, Sancho, Nunez, Pepe etc

Same is said every bloody year, it's ground hog day.

Same supporters will be trying to sell them in 2 years onto the next toy.


On historical precedent, there's more likelihood of him being a bust than even be worth that transfer fee. How many have ever worked out?

De Bruyne and Van Djik are the only two of the top 25 British transfers I'd consider have actually been even worth their fee, most of them are absolute busts.

The following is an absolutely horrific list:


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I think he'll be fine.

He's a bull out on the pitch and that's matched with his wonderful tackling and ability to break up the opposition's plays.

I can't see any reason why he won't keep on doing what he's been doing with us unless they ask him to play in a way that's counter to his natural ability.

 

[Zidane98]

Bye Jurgen

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You do realise 100m back then is probably the equivalent of about 200m now?

 

[Zidane98]

I think he'll be fine.

He's a bull out on the pitch and that's matched with his wonderful tackling and ability to break up the opposition's plays.

I can't see any reason why he won't keep on doing what he's been doing with us unless they ask him to play in a way that's counter to his natural ability.

Same as Rice. Both are established in the PL. A lot of those duds were transfers from overseas.

 

[Bostonian]

Same as Rice. Both are established in the PL. A lot of those duds were transfers from overseas.

And a lot are attacking players. The chances of those positions failing seem greater.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Same was said of Enzo, Lukaku x 2, Havertz, Pogba, Antony, Sancho, Nunez, Pepe etc

Same is said every bloody year, it's ground hog day.

Same supporters will be trying to sell them in 2 years onto the next toy.


On historical precedent, there's more likelihood of him being a bust than even be worth that transfer fee. How many have ever worked out?

De Bruyne and Van Djik are the only two of the top 25 British transfers I'd consider have actually been even worth their fee, most of them are absolute busts.

The following is an absolutely horrific list:


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You’d give ticks to KDB, Suarez, VVD, CR7, Bale and Grealish from that list.

Not many given how many names are on it

 

[Zidane98]

You’d give ticks to KDB, Suarez, VVD, CR7, Bale and Grealish from that list.

Not many given how many names are on it

Suarez, Bale & CR7 were outgoing transfers from the PL so really shouldn't be in the discussion.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Suarez, Bale & CR7 were outgoing transfers from the PL so really shouldn't be in the discussion.

It reinforces that regardless of former and destination club location massive transfer fees often don’t materialise in value for money.

 

[Memphis]

Bye Jurgen

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Aged well.

 

[moomba]

The following is an absolutely horrific list:

It's not great reading is it.

For us KDB was a bargain (he was called the £50m flop when we signed him). Grealish was great in the last half of last season, but I think he still has a bit more to do. I guess we'll see on Gvardiol.

Only three on the list from us might come as a shock to a few. I guess we'll have a few on the list just below those signings but most of those have been successes.

United fans won't want to read this lost too much though. Nightmare stuff, and I wonder if the narrative around the Glazers would be a bit different if those signings came close living up to their price tag (to be fair, the Glazers are ultimately responsible for building a good recruitment set up).

 

[moomba]

Re Klopps comments back then I can see why it got people's backs up, and why people are calling him out for it now. Maybe Klopp saw it a bit later than others, but it really was none of his business commenting on other clubs transfer strategies.

And it was hypocritical given Liverpool under Klopp had already bought some expensive signings in, so making out that he was any different to anyone else was a touch galling.

 

[Sozabarus]

And it was hypocritical given Liverpool under Klopp had already bought some expensive signings in, so making out that he was any different to anyone else was a touch galling.

Nah 2016 would have been his first summer.

 

[Jatz]

These “got ya”s are so lame. That was 7 years ago, the economics of football have changed in a way no one saw coming. He addressed this a couple of years ago.

Almost as lame as saying something and then having to retract it because it no longer suits the narrative.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

I’ll stand at my nearest set of lights with my tin rattle going. Let’s help poor Liverpool buy that extra midfielder and defender.

AV going old school, I like it. Stuff these modern age GoFundMes.

 

[Jatz]

You do realise 100m back then is probably the equivalent of about 200m now?

No it isn't. No club has spent 200m on a player.

There's still only a small minority to ever go over 100m and your club now has one of them.

Liverpool supporters trying to jump on and justify this is very expected, albeit disappointing.

 

[SM]

No it isn't. No club has spent 200m on a player.

There's still only a small minority to ever go over 100m and your club now has one of them.

Liverpool supporters trying to jump on and justify this is very expected, albeit disappointing.

While I broadly agree with your point, this is kinda how inflation works. Spending 100m back then on Pogba is much more substantial than spending 100m on Rice/Caicedo today.

 

[glenferry23]

They don't. They're only doing this because of the 52m received for Hendo & Fab and having literally no #6 in the squad for the start of the season. Really, we needed Caicedo to play alongside those two in the squad for a couple of years before they departed.


With all the departures this summer our wage bill has also reduced by nearly 1m a week. Realistically we should be outspending everyone this summer transfer window by miles, there was talk of a 250m net spend WARCHEST being available to Klopp but we're miles off that at the moment.


We still need another midfielder and another defender.

I’d be thrilled with signing Caicedo however. That’s a fantastic footballer you’ve got on your hands now.

 

[Jatz]

These “got ya”s are so lame. That was 7 years ago, the economics of football have changed in a way no one saw coming. He addressed this a couple of years ago.

Also, what?

Transfers have been getting more expensive for decades. Short of a small Covid related hiccup, absolutely everyone should've seen this coming.

 

[glenferry23]

No it isn't. No club has spent 200m on a player.

There's still only a small minority to ever go over 100m and your club now has one of them.

Liverpool supporters trying to jump on and justify this is very expected, albeit disappointing.

I believe Neymar is the only one to cross the double century, due to his release clause I recall.

 

[Jatz]

While I broadly agree with your point, this is kinda how inflation works. Spending 100m back then on Pogba is much more substantial than spending 100m on Rice/Caicedo today.

Ordinarily I'd agree, I don't think it's quite that way in terms of football transfers though.