Transfer Discussion Thread

[QuietB]

Bye Jurgen

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This often gets quoted out of context.

What Klopp was actually saying is that if had to coach a dud like Pogba at Liverpool "I'm not in a job anymore".

The comment was disguised with the other stuff to protect SAF's blood pressure.

 

[glenferry23]

Yep, this is more my point.

It's not like there's several footballers now going for 150m plus. There might be a few more crossing the 100m threshold but it's not like clubs are blasting past that. Despite inflation in the player market.

Yes there might well be more transactions crossing the €100m+ mark. Clubs increasingly using other sales as precedents for their own assets. ie Shakthar see United sign Antony for €100m, and demand the same for Mudryk. Rice to Arsenal for £100m+, Brighton hold out for more for Caicedo etc.

 

[QuietB]

Not suggesting Liverpool supporters shouldn't be excited about this. They should. Transfers are a huge part of the joy we get to experience as football fans.

There's just no need to defend the absurd amounts of money being thrown around, like Liverpool are somehow better than any other club while doing it.

Any objective Liverpool supporter would accept that the club has spend big when they are confronted with a specific need. VVD was a huge hole filled, Becker was a huge hole filled (Karius ), Nunez I guess replaces Firmino, Szoboszlai is part of a much needed midfield upgrade and so is Caicedo.

When Liverpool have been faced with the specific need they have spent big.

And if opposition supporters were objective you would concede that Klopp and his team do not often miss. Keita was a dud, Ox didn't work out, but that is it. Most of the others have performed under Klopp (if we accept it is too early to tell with Nunez, Gapko and this years crop).

This is everything in the Klopp era - it is pretty bloody good Liverpool FC - All transfers

 

[SM]

I am curious at if there'll be a tipping point for Brighton. Everyone thought Southampton were the model club because they sold players for huge fees and seemingly just replaced them, and then.. it just stopped. You have a few transfers that bust, you get a bad run of form, or a few unlucky injuries, does it all implode? Or is their model even better? Will be really interesting.

 

[moomba]

I am curious at if there'll be a tipping point for Brighton. Everyone thought Southampton were the model club because they sold players for huge fees and seemingly just replaced them, and then.. it just stopped. You have a few transfers that bust, you get a bad run of form, or a few unlucky injuries, does it all implode? Or is their model even better? Will be really interesting.

I wonder the same, all fine when your recruitment is spot on as it seems to be with Brighton. Sell a player for big money, and his replacement is just as good or better.

They don't seem to miss much, and while that continues they'll be fine.

 

[RossFC]

 

[RossFC]

 

[Bostonian]

I am curious at if there'll be a tipping point for Brighton. Everyone thought Southampton were the model club because they sold players for huge fees and seemingly just replaced them, and then.. it just stopped. You have a few transfers that bust, you get a bad run of form, or a few unlucky injuries, does it all implode? Or is their model even better? Will be really interesting.

Didn't Saints start to go backwards when the new owners took over?

It's not like they weren't in the PL for quite a long time before that though.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

United get £30m. That is not in question. United will agree a payout separately with Maguire. This is being reported at £6.5m but that's not accurate and this figure is not deducted from the transfer fee.

Of course its deducted from the transfer fee. Unless Man United have a magical money tree that pays off its players, its coming from that transfer fee pot

 

[Magma]

find his take under the original tweet odd. every club has a figure that they go to and believe a player is worth. sometimes you just get outbid, every club has missed out on a player because of it. can hardly accuse chelsea of not spending money either.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

No it isn't. More than happy for you to provide a solid source though that doesn't originate back from the original source which I believe was The Sun.

The Sun got it from talkSport. Its also been in the Guardian but Im pretty sure talkSPORT is the main source

 

[Bradesmaen]

 

[Magma]

goat saga potential here

 

[chef]

**** me. Can it be over already I've moved on and fallen in love with someone else haha.

This saga sucks.

 

[archiemoses]

7 years later and everyone still struggling with the concept of net spend.

 

[Bradesmaen]

goat saga potential here

Son at Kane's house

 

[Bradesmaen]

7 years later and everyone still struggling with the concept of net spend.

The only people struggling at Liverpool fans who are performing gymnastics like always to say how they can spend the money after months of saying they have no money to spend.

 

[pantskyle]

The Sun got it from talkSport. Its also been in the Guardian but Im pretty sure talkSPORT is the main source

Ok so you agree it's a crap source.

 

[archiemoses]

The only people struggling at Liverpool fans who are performing gymnastics like always to say how they can spend the money after months of saying they have no money to spend.

You seemingly really struggle with the concept.

 

[RossFC]

The Sun got it from talkSport. Its also been in the Guardian but Im pretty sure talkSPORT is the main source

The s*n and TalkSport are rubbish. Guardian is ok.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Of course its deducted from the transfer fee. Unless Man United have a magical money tree that pays off its players, its coming from that transfer fee pot

It definitely is not and you don't know the terms or the amount of the payment to Maguire either. Transfers and Wages come from different pots as you call it. United don't receive £30m less Maguires payout from West Ham. For example, United may pay Maguire £50,000 per week for two years from their wage bill. We don't receive a lower transfer fee.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

The s*n and TalkSport are rubbish. Guardian is ok.

Crooky on Talk Sport is decent on United but not Tier 1. Even then, he normally finds out stuff after the fact and just provides good detail around how a deal developed.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ok so you agree it's a crap source.

talkSPORT and West Ham news seems to be 100% spot on. David Sullivan is on that show constantly.

I mean do you guys think Maguire is taking a 100k per week paycut without any payment or compensation?

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Fred to Fenerbahce is imminent for 15m euros. Amrabat to United is agreed verbally so should move quickly if Fiorentina don't play funny buggers.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

talkSPORT and West Ham news seems to be 100% spot on. David Sullivan is on that show constantly.

I mean do you guys think Maguire is taking a 100k per week paycut without any payment or compensation?

Why would West Ham or Sullivan know intimate details of negotiations between United and Maguire? Maguire will be compensated to an extent but nobody knows the structure or amount.