Transfer Discussion Thread

[moomba]

Nah 2016 would have been his first summer.

My mistake, thought Van Dijk was signed at that stage. Although it didn't take long for him to see the light.

 

[Jatz]

I believe Neymar is the only one to cross the double century, due to his release clause I recall.

Yep, this is more my point.

It's not like there's several footballers now going for 150m plus. There might be a few more crossing the 100m threshold but it's not like clubs are blasting past that. Despite inflation in the player market.

 

[Jatz]

Not suggesting Liverpool supporters shouldn't be excited about this. They should. Transfers are a huge part of the joy we get to experience as football fans.

There's just no need to defend the absurd amounts of money being thrown around, like Liverpool are somehow better than any other club while doing it.

 

[Zidane98]

I’d be thrilled with signing Caicedo however. That’s a fantastic footballer you’ve got on your hands now.

It's more of a relief feeling than anything. Going into the season with no #6s seemed absolutely nuts. FSG should not have gotten themselves into this position.

 

[Zidane98]

Not suggesting Liverpool supporters shouldn't be excited about this. They should. Transfers are a huge part of the joy we get to experience as football fans.

There's just no need to defend the absurd amounts of money being thrown around, like Liverpool are somehow better than any other club while doing it.

We've now got Saudi clubs paying good money for taking older players off clubs hands. 100m signings are now going to be the norm for cashed up clubs. I would rather have not sold our players to Saudi scum and negotiated a much lower transfer fee.

 

[Sozabarus]

Almost as lame as saying something and then having to retract it because it no longer suits the narrative.

Fair enough, agree to disagree. I’m not really in to the whole football twitter account banter space, not my thing. Think the whole topic is a lot more nuanced than “what a hypocrite”, especially when we are talking about a 7 year period, but I get that people aren’t interested in that and it’s all about oneupmanship.

 

[Sozabarus]

My mistake, thought Van Dijk was signed at that stage. Although it didn't take long for him to see the light.

He’s been proved completely wrong I’m not denying that but I remember the Pogba transfer was seen as a massive “what is going on with football finances” moment. He probably would have been better to keep his mouth shut but I don’t think he cares or thinks “this might look silly to people on the internet in a few years”.

 

[Magma]

Same was said of Enzo, Lukaku x 2, Havertz, Pogba, Antony, Sancho, Nunez, Pepe etc

Same is said every bloody year, it's ground hog day.

Same supporters will be trying to sell them in 2 years onto the next toy.


On historical precedent, there's more likelihood of him being a bust than even be worth that transfer fee. How many have ever worked out?

De Bruyne and Van Djik are the only two of the top 25 British transfers I'd consider have actually been even worth their fee, most of them are absolute busts.

The following is an absolutely horrific list:


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i think as well it's just that no player can really live up to a 100mil price tag, other than ronaldo's goal scoring at madrid. what on earth is a defensive midfielder ever going to do to convince anyone that 100 mil is 'worth' it.

 

[Zidane98]

My mistake, thought Van Dijk was signed at that stage. Although it didn't take long for him to see the light.

Van Dijk signed in January 2018 for 75m. At the stage when he made this comment his record signing was Mane I believe.

 

[Zidane98]

i think as well it's just that no player can really live up to a 100mil price tag, other than ronaldo's goal scoring at madrid. what on earth is a defensive midfielder ever going to do to convince anyone that 100 mil is 'worth' it.

Stay for 10 years, play 500 games and win a few league / CL titles.

 

[moomba]

He’s been proved completely wrong I’m not denying that but I remember the Pogba transfer was seen as a massive “what is going on with football finances” moment. He probably would have been better to keep his mouth shut but I don’t he cares or thinks “this might look silly to people on the internet in a few years”.

Probably right that he doesn't care, and I bet United would take back the Pogba transfer if they could.

But talk shit, get banged. You can't expect people to just ignore what he said.

 

[Magma]

Stay for 10 years, play 500 games and win a few league / CL titles.

there will be players signed for a fraction of 100 mil who do that.

 

[moomba]

i think as well it's just that no player can really live up to a 100mil price tag, other than ronaldo's goal scoring at madrid. what on earth is a defensive midfielder ever going to do to convince anyone that 100 mil is 'worth' it.

I'd happily pay an extra £40m for Rodri.

 

[Zidane98]

Probably right that he doesn't care, and I bet United would take back the Pogba transfer if they could.

But talk s**t, get banged. You can't expect people to just ignore what he said.

Makes sense if he turned around and signed a player for 100m that summer. That's 7 years ago. Average players these days cost 40-50m.

 

[Zidane98]

there will be players signed for a fraction of 100 mil who do that.

Apart from youth products who has done that?


Mind you we did get 331 games out of James Milner for 0 so it kind of balances out.

 

[moomba]

Makes sense if he turned around and signed a player for 100m that summer. That's 7 years ago. Average players these days cost 40-50m.

He bought Van Dijk over 6 years ago for lot more than £40-50m.

And it was a very good signing, as I said it didn't take him long to see the light.

 

[Zidane98]

He bought Van Dijk over 6 years ago for lot more than £40-50m.

And it was a very good signing, as I said it didn't take him long to see the light.

He bought Van Dijk 5.6 years ago and only was able to because of significant transfer income. If you knew the story behind that transfer it was one of Edward's few cockups by leaking it before it was completed causing a shitstorm with Soton. Otherwise we would have had him for 55m in the summer window. Turning Coutinho into Allison/Van Dijk was a masterstroke though by Edwards even if it was hugely unpopular at the time.


As he will end up giving 9 years of service by the time he is done it's been a huge success.

 

[moomba]

He bought Van Dijk 5.6 years ago and only was able to because of significant transfer income. If you knew the story behind that transfer it was one of Edward's few cockups by leaking it before it was completed causing a shitstorm with Soton. Otherwise we would have had him for 55m in the summer window. Turning Coutinho into Allison/Van Dijk was a masterstroke though by Edwards even if it was hugely unpopular at the time.


As he will end up giving 9 years of service by the time he is done it's been a huge success.

I agree he's been a successful signing. And I think Klopp would probably concede now (maybe he already has) that he was wrong in thinking that big money signings in football were a bad thing or somehow against the ethos of team football.

It doesnt really matter that he was bought with the first tranche of the Coutinho billions, Klopps comments weren't about funding, they were about the value of big mo ey signings. And VVD ws certainly one of them.

 

[moomba]

Not suggesting Liverpool supporters shouldn't be excited about this. They should. Transfers are a huge part of the joy we get to experience as football fans.

There's just no need to defend the absurd amounts of money being thrown around, like Liverpool are somehow better than any other club while doing it.

A lot of been extremely critical of other clubs spending over the last decade, I think some maybe finding it difficult to backtrack.

 

[Bostonian]

That will help with our net spend rankings.

 

[Zidane98]

I agree he's been a successful signing. And I think Klopp would probably concede now (maybe he already has) that he was wrong in thinking that big money signings in football were a bad thing or somehow against the ethos of team football.

It doesnt really matter that he was bought with the first tranche of the Coutinho billions, Klopps comments weren't about funding, they were about the value of big mo ey signings. And VVD ws certainly one of them.

Of course it does, what a ridiculous thing to say. Allison/Van Dijk doesn't happen without Coutinho's departure.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Pogba didn't cost £100m. Klopp was being a knob for effect, as is his style, and has now been shown to be a hypocrite.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[moomba]

Of course it does, what a ridiculous thing to say. Allison/Van Dijk doesn't happen without Coutinho's departure.

That is irrelevant.

Klopp was saying that big money signings were a bad thing for football.

How the signings were funded has nothing to do with it.

If you bring one player in for £100m and he gets injured, then it all goes through the chimney,' he said.

'The day that this is football, I'm not in a job anymore, because the game is about playing together.

'That is how everybody in football understands it. You always want to have the best, but building the group is necessary to be successful.

'Other clubs can go out and spend more money and collect top players.

'I want to do it differently. I would even do it differently if I could spend that money.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Normally not but thats whats happening here it seems

West Ham cant pay him 200k a week and so Maguire wants Man United to make up the difference. The hold up in the deal is Maguire/Man U working on Maguires compensation bid

Thats being reported in alot of places

United get £30m. That is not in question. United will agree a payout separately with Maguire. This is being reported at £6.5m but that's not accurate and this figure is not deducted from the transfer fee.